Sat Sri Akaal sareya nu !!
Finally got the time to write to the topic (because of lying on the bed with sickness).
Anyways, thanks to all the readers for reading through the topic and sharing their views.
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Ok now coming back to the topic.
Bhaji tusi sahi kehnde ho, par punjabi di gal hor ah. Punjabi bohat tara boli jandi ah, jidda koi delhi sher da sadde pindd ah jawe, punjabi bolan wich farak jaroor hou ga. Hun jidda asi pind ch kehnde ah, mein te odda hi kehnda wa. Hun angreji bhasha lai lawo example, so many different accents and ways of pronouncing things. Ah word appa ek example lende angreji da. India te UK wich edda spell karde appa "Colour" America wich asi edda spell karde "Color". Sas ri kal keh ditta jaa sat sri akaal keh ditta. Jidda kise nu changa lagda odda kawe
Lol, no comments to you bro.
And yeah btw, Pawan Jatt can also be pronounced as 'Pawn' Jatt by some people depending on the area.
So Pawn Jatt can be also be transformed to = Porn Jatt.
So, from now on I'll call you 'Porn Jatt'.I hope you won't mind
Naale, tu keh reha ke ladaiya dharma de wich es karke hundiya kyunki lok apne dharam nu dujje dharma to ucha samjde aa.
Meri kise v gal de vich superiority complex reflect nahi kar reha, oh ta sirf teri niyani soch aa jedi es disha vich ja rahi aa.
Main ta sirf ehio explain kitta ke pathar di bani moorti nu poojna bhakti nahi aa balki apne mann da bhulekha aa.It's like taking a short cut for not searching for the true lord within ourselves, but imagining the lord inside a statue made of stone which has been carved in a devi or a devta's shape and looks.
Honestly, do you really think that the great almighty is entrapped in a stone made statue ?
I can hire a sculpturer and get a beautiful statue prepared but is that going to be a form of 'God' ?
Ofcourse, the statue can be a beautiful monument, a part of the heritage and can be used as an important source of reference to the history but cannot be presented as a form of the supreme power.
Gur Gobind Singh Sahib defines the great supreme lord with no color, shape, form or gendre but yet his presence can be felt whenever you remember him with a true feeling.This was written by Gur Gobind Singh Ji at Paonta Sahib, Himachal where a huge Gurdwara stands today as Gurdwara Paonta Sahib and is my favourite Gurdwara.
My argument is not about who is greater than whom.
Sorry to say, but your arguments are not holding much weight and the same are being liked by your friend Princess something or whatever her name is......
I'm not against Hinduism(there's a lot you can learn from Hinduism, after all they're our ancestors).
But the concept of worshipping deities or stone made statues as god is not a part of my mentality and neither the Sikh mentality I believe.
@ Nek Singh.
Veer, thoddi gallan to mainu eh lag reha, jida koi student apne teacher da favourite bannan di koshish kar reha hove.
Sorry, please don't mind, I don't mean to be rude.It's what I think after having gone through your words.
Just like I asked before, that if two people(one without 'rehat' and other with rehat) follow the same path( routine naal nitnem amritvehle, japji sahib, rehraas sahib, sukhmani sahib, jaap sahib, sawaiye sahib aur chopai sahib kare), do kaar seva in Gurdwara and is away from arogance.
More or less both possess same characteristics but the only difference is of the rehat.
So, is Baba Ji going to treat the second person in special just because he kept the rehat with him ?
You said that Baba Ji loves every one as equal without holding any difference.
And in the second verdict you mentioned that Gur Gobind Singh Sahib Ji would give importance to the Rehat than the Sikh ?
What exactly did you mean by saying this ?
Does this not contradict your previous verdict ?
You are not going to be judged in the Lord's court based on your attire.
The Guru is the way to the Lord, whom you'll face after you leave your body from this world.
If Mother Teresa and a Amritdhari Khalsa Woman(who also serves mankind and humanity just like Great Mother Teresa), then will the Khalsa Woman be treated specially in the Lord's court just because she was a Khalsa and kept her full rehat ?
Then what about the pure deeds that Mother Teresa did in her life ? Do they get over shadowed because the other woman is a Khalsa ?
Sorry to use Mother Teresa's name here, there's no comparison for her.But take it as an example.
First think about it, then understand "WHY".
The answer to "WHY" is damn important to know.
WHY Gur Gobind Singh Sahib told Sikhs to keep rehat ?
Do you have any damn clue about it ?
Why do you keep rehat ? Just because somebody has told you to, may be that's why ?
Or may be there's this hooplah of being punished later for cutting your hair, and eventually maintain rehat with a fear of not getting punished by Baba Ji.All this is told by our elders, and that's why we do it with fear, kithe Baba Ji naraaz na ho jaan.
Ask any Sikh for the reason. they won't have any answer to it.They just do it because their parents told them and they were told by their parents and so on.
And I get surprised that none of the young Sikh youth tries putting forth an effort to know it, try doing a research over it, try understanding the connetcion of rehat with spirituality, eventually why do we keep 'kes'.
They'd rather waste more than half of their life in doing 'maa bhen' to others, or with daroo and nashe, thinking that it's cool.
I don't care what people think of me in real life or here at PJ, but I do give a serious thought to it.
I try recollecting things from different Historical Gurdwaras of Dasam Patshah Ji.The closest Gurdwara to my heart is Gurdwara Paonta Sahib, where Gur Gobind Sahib spent his young age, spent his time writing paaths like Jaap Sahib, spent his time in spirituality, where his first Son, Sahibzada Ajit Singh was born.The place has a great happy vibe, kyunki oh pehla sheher c jo Guru Sahib ne apne hathi vasaya c.
Near by the main Gurdwara, there are so many other historical Gurdwaras of Dasam Patshah ji which go completely ignored by the Sikhs of Punjab.All of the seva goes to Harmandir Sahib, but no one really cares about these Gurdwaras where Gur Gobind Singh Sahib spent the maximum part of his life.
Just because Gurdwara Harmandir Sahib has the biggest name ? Maximum seva goes there only.What about other Gurdwaras ? Compare Gurdwara Taran Tarn Sahib with Harmandir Sahib which is less than 20 Kms away from Harmadir Sahib ? At Harmandir Sahib they've installed Bose speakers and at Taran Tarn Sahib just an old rusty loud speaker.
Anyway, the reason for me to mention about Paonta Sahib was that one can get to know a lot about Gur Gobind Singh Ji and his sight about the lord.
The spot is still maintained where he wrote the paaths, so one can imagine Baba Ji sitting at that spot back in time and try understanding Baba Ji's thoughts and listen to Jaap Sahib, Sawaiye Sahib and feel what Baba Ji felt at that time and at that spot.That brings me closer to him.
I mean that's what I feel and that's how I imagine things.In history, any date between 1700 to 1800 makes me imagine about Gur Gobind Singh Ji.
Like King Henry the 4th in France, I went to see his Chateau(castle) and it was built during the times of our Gurus, so I try co-relating events this way.I imagined our Gurus in real life going through such hard and difficult times while there was a similar scenerio for the French during that era and the similar massacres taking place near the Chateau.
Anyway, this is just a gimplse of how I work.
Coming back to the questions of 'WHY ?'.
I am always hungry to know this WHY.
After this 'WHY' comes 'HOW'.
These two questions are what I always emphasize on no matter whatever I am doing.
First let's talk about the 'WHY' ?
In my perception, keeping kes is not just subject to Sikhism.Infact people kept kes long before Sikhim even had the space to evolve.Example-Jesus Christ and many Great Saints like him.
Every hair on our body has some purpose to it.The hair on the head are like recievers which receives information from the environment.
The nature of these informations are vibrations which every human being and object from the nature releases.
The vibrations are not like the one which we get on cellphones.These vibrations are received but cannot be seen.These vibrations are an energy which we all carry.Every living and non living object does have an energy.Humans and other living beings have an energy system.This energy is transmitted or recieved from others as vibes.
Just when we meet a very happy, joyful and a positive person, we feel the same with that person.People sort of gravitate towards that person.
Why is that ?
Because it's an exachange of energy.
The cells and micro particals in our body light up when they recieve pure, positive and happy vibes, thus resulting to an attraction(non sexual) to that person.
And the opposite happens when we a meet a negative person.People tend to repel away from that person.
This all because of the energy that we carry with us, and this energy comes from a source which is our beleive system.
So coming to the subject of 'Kes', these kes are like recievers on our head and when these single recievers are caught and tied together on the head as a top knot, it sort of becomes an antena with a stronger signal strength.
Your power to recieve and spread energy becomes stronger.
Now let's talk about the 'HOW' part.
Now, if we talk about energy again, our body has 7 main energy fields out of which some are bigger and some smaller energy fields.From the legs to the lower abdomen, from the abdomen to the chest and from the chest finally to the top of the head, these energy fields are spread across.
These energy fields are called as 'Chakras'.
The chakra on the top of the head is located in the middle of the scalp.Not exactly the middle but a little further from the forhead and more towards the crown of the head.
Now this is the spot where the topknot(Joorha) is ACTUALLY to be tied.
We see Sikh people tying the topknot closer to the forehead, but in actual the right place is the crown of the head which is further from the forehead, because that's where the chakra is located.
I've come across that Muslims call that spot as "Chaand" while in Hinduism it is "Chakra".
This is why so many spiritual personalities that we come across in history and also the ones mentioned in the Gur Granth Sahib had long hair.All our Gurus had long hair.Sant Ravidas Ji had long hair too and many more.
Now this adds to spirituality.
Having long hair gives a better connectivity with the nature.As it is mentioned in all the holy books in the world, that God is present everywhere and in everything in the nature, so we can connect ourselves with the nature better.
We can feel a stronger presence of God around us.
Also in Hinduism, there's a concept of sticking the the tongue to the roof of the mouth exactly in alignment with the pitutary gland(the gland is located exactly in the centre of the head, which controls other major galnds of the body) and also at the same time having the index finger touching the thumb while meditating and along with the "jhoorha" tied right over the spot of the chakra.
The sensation they get from this meditation is called as 'Amritdhara'.
So this connects to the concept of the energy system.May be they call it 'Amritdhara' because they recieve a pure and a strong vibe with the presence of God around them.
So keeping kes has connection with energy system this way.
Now to be spiritual, having kes is important.
So keeping in mind the above context, in short the "WHY" and "HOW" gets answered this way :
WHY = its a source for feeding the energy system with a greater strength
HOW = we have different energy fields speard out across our body(mainly 7), and each fields stronger with maintaining the hair on the body and most importantly the hair on the head and the beard.
Let's talk about Khalsa :
Now coming to Khalsa.
As we all know that Khalsa means pure.How is it pure ?
Just because you had Amrit, does it mean you're purified ?
I think NO.
To be a Khalsa you first have to have a heart to atleast purify your mind so that the pure endowment of the 'Rehat of Khalsa' stays in you.
For example - je tussi ik gande barhtan wich dudh paoge, te dudh ne ta phitna hi aa.Par je tussi barhtan nu pehla saaf karonge phir dudh paoge, taahi ta dudh tikuga os de wich.
Gurbani naal v eh hi aa.Pehla apne mann nu saaf karo, apne mann nu taiyaar karo taahi ta Gurbani thodde dil wich tikugi.Aur eh suakha nahi.
Khalsa banna saukha nahi aa.
And Khalsa is not something which every Sikh has to be.
It's a way of life.If one who wants to live a Saintly life, this is the right and a naturally balanced way of life for that person.Not everyone has the strength and mindset to be a Khalsa.
Khalsa is what makes you rise up from greed, arogance and lust(the lower self).
You grow the higher self of yours.It's not the Khalsa attire, it is the person in that Khalsa attire.
Ever wondered why Gur Gobind Singh Ji has kept consumption of non-veg as forbidden for a Khalsa ?
Not because killing an animal is a sin because it causes pain to it.Do we not kill vegetative plants for food, it causes pain to them also but just because they cannot express or scream about it like other animals, we presume it to be a pure diet and not a sinful one.
I don't mean to say that killing animals for eating them is right, ofcourse it is not.
But why Guru Sahib has kept it forbidden for a Khalsa is because eating non-veg will make the blood warmer and with a warmer blood comes aggression and with aggression you cannot meditate upon the lord's name.
Although Gur Gobind Singh Ji himself use to hunt sometimes.But non-veg is to be comsumed only when needed or when there is no choice for a Khalsa and that to only of 'jhatka'
Once you're a true a Khalsa, you're a Saint but also a Soldier.A Saint who can take his hand to the sword only when peaceful means fail.
All the above context about a Khalsa is based on my own perception.This is what I feel and I thought of sharing with all.This perception I've formed through a long deep research into spiritual matters and also our Sikh history and co-relating them.
Being a Khalsa means pure.
Why is it pure ?
I think the above context should explain it now.
Khalsa is very uplifted way of life.Those who wish to lead a spiritual way of life, the Khalsa way of life is the best way to do.
Working hard is not the only way to succeed, but working hard the right way will surely bring you success.Every one today works hard but if the work doesn't bring any result it's then useless.
So to be spiritual, our actions and thoughts need to channelized in the right way so that the results can be felt.The right way would not mean tying yourself with a branch of a tree with your hair or by running over hot burning charcoal or pinning needles in your body like Saadhus to show god that you love him.Ofcourse you would love him and you might be spiritual also, but these actions won't bring you anything.
The Khalsa way is the right way because you not only feel an eternal bliss by having the strength but your inner happiness grows out bigger by serving the needy and mankind.This is what god wants.
Why we call Khalsa roop as the Guru's roop because there is somehting about it which Gur Gobind Singh Ji experienced and felt the power of this nature's gift.He knew the difference between both and endowed this to us.
That's why Gur Gobind Singh Ji has told that whoever wants to have darshan of him can have it anytime through himself or herself if he or she is in the Khalsa roop.It's like what a father leaves for his children.It's something that our beloved father Gur Gobind Singh Ji has gifted us with it because he wants us to experience the same.He wants us to be like him, though we all know that nobody can be like him, but that's his greatness that cannot be measured in any form.
The above context explains it all about my verdict of a Khalsa.
I hope that the readers may have gotten some insight about what I percieve of being a Khalsa.
This is what I believe and I've shared it with you all.
Now let me talk about a trimmed beard :
Nek Singh said that I was trying to justify a trimmed bearded guy against a Khalsa.
That's all false.
I wasn't justifying.
I'm a cut serd.But my reason to be bearded is that I feel better about myself with a beard rather than being clean shaven.
Being clean shaven feels to damn feminish, and I don't like to look at myself in the mirror when clean shaven.
Being bearded feels not only masculine to me but also feels more confident.I prefer rough looks, feels more manly.But apart from this I also feel more Serdy.It may also have something to do with spirituality because my beard may not be a full length but somewhere I feel spiritually stronger as well when I'm bearded.
So my message was to all those Serd friends who have a trimmed beard (with turban) shouldn't feel complexed about themsleves because they have something which the clean shaven cut serds don't have, which is a "Jigra" and masculinity and shouldn't give a damn to those girls who prefer the clean shaven ones.Same goes for the ones who are not turbaned but bearded, I find them better off compared to the clean shaven gay looking guys.
Sorry, don't mean to offend the clean shaven guys though, but it's just what I feel.
But if we're born as men, then why be clean shaven ? I mean thats what look good on girls.Would girls look good with full beards like men, although they have beards too but it too light.
Having said all above, I would just wanna add that, Sardari is very dear to me.
I love tying a turban.
Some day with Baba Ji's blessing, I will keep my kes again and get back to pavilion.
Thank you all for taking time and reading.
I need to take a little break myself now.
Waheguru Ji da Khalsa, Waheguru Ji di Fateh !!