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Re: Sikhism: discussion
« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2012, 07:42:17 AM »
Menu nahi pta if I should reply here, but I have found something on the net and I jst loved it - I hope this is helpful  :smile:

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Keeping kesh is a commitment that one makes when one takes Amrit. If you have not taken Amrit yet, whether or not you keep your hair is between you and your Guru.
A Sikh is one who relates to the Siri Guru Granth Sahib as a Guru and practices what the Guru teaches. This is a life-long process.
None of us start at the finish line. So - if your take the Words of the Siri Guru Granth Sahib as your Guru and Guide in life and do your best to live those words unto infinity, to make them a practical reality - that is what is required for being a Sikh.
When your soul is ready to take Amrit and keep your hair, it will tell you.
Until then, mediate on the words of the Guru, take them into your heart and live them to the best of your ability. In this way, you shall be a true Sikh of the Guru.

I know that many people out there will disagree with this. I understand it.
But I just have to believe that, in the time of the Gurus, there were many people who benefited from the Gurus' teachings, and eventually made the full commitment -
but that the Gurus were patient with them.
If this was true then, it is true now. One day, as per the instructions of the Guru, you will keep your hair.
But you have to be ready to do it and to give you the strength to make that choice, have the Siri Guru Granth Sahib as your Guide and meditate on those Words.
It will answer every question and solve every problem.

- GPK

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Re: Sikhism: discussion
« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2012, 07:42:17 AM »

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Re: Sikhism: discussion
« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2012, 07:54:52 AM »
I've gone through the post Gurseerat.
Thanks for sharing !

I will get back to this after I get free from packing as I'm leaving for Delhi tomorrow morning.

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Re: Sikhism: discussion
« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2012, 12:24:59 PM »
but why do people cut hair.
je tuahde parents ne rakhe aa ..
teh tuahdi life ch edah da ki incident hoya ke tusi baal kta laye.
par je parents ne hi rakhe aa teh vakhri gal aa..
then you wont keep it unless you realize the importance of keeping it .




gal saaf eh aa keh .. pawe koi kina vi jor lawe ..
decision bande ne odho hi lena aa jado ohnu andhro realize hunda aa
otherwise jo hai justify kri jana aa,
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This is a life-long process.[/color][/size]None of us start at the finish line.[/b][/size][/color]



amrit dhari banana is not finish line . It is the starting point .


baki pichel post ch reason dase aa keh kyn jaroori aa amrit shakna sikh hon layi












 

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Re: Sikhism: discussion
« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2012, 02:54:41 PM »
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SGPC have made it very clear as under.

- Members of the SGPC executive, led by its president Avtar Singh, today laid down the definition of a Sehajdhari Sikh.

Sticking to the definition given in the Sikh Gurdwara Act 1925, the committee members have stated that Sehajdhari Sikhs are those who are born in non-Sikh families, but follow the tenets of Sikhism. A Sehajdhari Sikh is thus a non-Sikh who performs ceremonies according to Sikh rites; who does not use tobacco, does not consume halal meat in any form; who is not a “patit” and who recites the mulmantra of Guru Granth Sahib.

In the resolution passed during a meeting held this evening, the SGPC pointed out that the definition of Sehajdhari given in the Section 2 (10-A) of the Gurdwara Act states that the word “sehajdhari” consists of two words “sehaj” (slowly) and “dhari” (adopt a religious path) and hence these are those novices who slowly move on the path of Sikhism to adopt its doctrine, ethics and tenets.

A Sehajdhari, therefore, is one who has entered the path of Sikhism and he will continue to be a Sehajdhari Sikh till he fully accepts the moral and spiritual vows of Sikhism, to be called a practicing Sikh. The SGPC resolution also made it clear that when a Sehajdhari Sikh becomes a keshdhari Sikh, but he chooses to trim his body hair, he will not be a Sehajdhari Sikh. Similarly, if a person born into a Sikh family (and is a Sikh), but chooses to disrespect his keshdhari roop he will not turn into a Sehajdhari Sikh but become a “patit”.

So the disrespect to kesh makes a person born into a Sikh family a PATIT. If these persons cannot respect their identity, they have no right for any

voting rights in SGPC. It is as simple as that.

 
moral
 
ik sehajdhari sikh and  vaal ni katwa sakda agar oh sikh family nu belong karda.

jae sehajdhari ni katwa sakda tae sikh kida katawa sakda?
 
« Last Edit: January 05, 2012, 03:03:20 PM by Gurpinder Mand »

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Re: Sikhism: discussion
« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2012, 04:49:11 PM »
Rab Alllah God Buddha Guru

Different name , Aim is the same

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Re: Sikhism: discussion
« Reply #25 on: January 06, 2012, 11:26:48 AM »
@ Pawan Jatt :

Gyani Sahab, pehla SSA ta kehna sikh lavo.
"Sat Sri Akaal" hunda, "Sas ri kal" nahi.

Sat Sri Akaal Veere tainu te saare readers nu :

Pai Sahab vekho, shayd thonnu understanding the problem aa, gal thonnu ik vaari ch samaj hi nahi aundi.
Main vaar vaar explainations dena nahi chaunde oh v os gal de layi jithe main galt kise vaare(religion) keha hi nahi.

They were not remarks and it has been well explained above.Any sensible person after reading it will understand what exactly it meant.

Naale mainu Hindua to ki prob ho sakdi ? Assi aap Hindua to hi aaye aa.
Hindua nu Hindu naam v Mughala to hi mileya.Chalo es topic te main kuj nahi kehna.

Baaki tu mainu keh reha ke main loka da dil rakhan layi moortiya nu matha tek laina.
Ede ch galt ki aa ? Main kise de ghar jaake odiya bhavnava nu thes kanu pauchava ? Main apni marzi naalo ta janda nahi.Par kise ne mainu sadheya oda maan rakhna mera farz nahi ?
Moorti hai ki pehla ta eh das ? Pathar di moorti nu rabb mannke ode moore matha tekna ta apna bhulekha aa, te eh gal sanu sadde Gurua ne v dassi.
Es gal di khilafat ta tu  kar reha, ke moorti poojan ch galt ki aa ?

Main ta respect karda saare dharma di.Respect karan da eh matlab thodi aa ke akh bandh karke poojan lag jao bajo kuj jaane soche.Respect karda main sare dharma di taahi apne friends naal Mandir v chala janda je oh laike jana chaunde hon.Par apni marzi naalo nahi janda bas.
Main Christianity ch kaafi vishvaas rakhda te kaafi kuj collect karda rehna Christianity cho.Christianity has so many things similar with Sikhism, so it does attract my attention to it.I try learning from Hindus as well, from Muslims too.
Moorti nu matha tek ke main ki sakda ?
Naale, do you not know the difference in a Holy Book and a Satue ?
Assi, Gur Granth Sahib agge matha kanu tekde aa ? Assi Quraan agge kanu matha tekde aa ? Because they enlighten us.Oh rabb di bani aa, that's why.

Putha, dil rakhan ali gal ta tu kar reha.
Tu ta darke moorti poojan ch jakeen kar reha taake koi Hindu Guru Granth Sahib vaare na kuj keh deve.
Main ta fir kise kaaran karke nahi manda, par tu ta dar de maare mann reha.Andaro ta tainu v pata ke pathar di moorti koi v bana sakda par oh rabb ta ban jauga nahi.Eh ta bas apne mann nu tassalli den ali gal ho gayi.
Fir Sikh panth kanu chalaya gaya ?

Fark bas inna aa ke tu moorti poojan nu na mannan layi hor koi changa reason de hi nahi sakda, bas darda aa ke koi Hindu na kuj bol deve.
Naale kine k Hindu aunde aa Gurdwareya ch ? Bot ghat, oh v sirf ohi jinna nu pata hunda Sikhi vaare.


Hun eh meri galti aa ?
Jad tu pooriya galla chaj naal parhiya hi nahi fir apni keemti raaye kanu deyi janda ?
Jaa ta poori gal parhan da sabar rakho, samjho agla banda ki keh reha phir jwaab devo akkal naal, naake khunnas wich.

When did I even say that I'm a pure Sikh.
Yes, I am a Sikh but not a Khalsa.
According to Nek Singh, a Sikh and a Khalsa are the same to which I disagree.
I will give an explaination to my disagreement later on.

"Hanji bil kul sahi gal, Sabb di life wich edda da point aunda, jado sabb sikh bann jande ne. Saari umar te koi koi mona rehnda."

Eh hanji hanji ki kari janda tu ?
Tu dhyaan naal parhda v aa ke nahi ?
Os comment ch Nek Singh ne keval kurriya vaare hi keha c, mundeya vaare nahi.
Kurriya de vaal already lamme hunde aa te bas thalleo halki cutting kara laindiya ja hadho hadho 5-7 inch.Over all ohna de vaal lamme hi hunde aa, bot hi ghat hundiya jerhiya boy-cut kara laindiya hon.Example - Kiran Bedi.
Nek Singh ne ik suggestion ditta c ke jad kurriya da shaunk poora ho jave ta baad ch eh step lai sakdiya ne.
Munde ta ajjakl ganje hoyi phirde Sardara de.
Ganje kanu hunde aa ? lol...
Mainu ta ulti aundi vekh ke Gurdwareya ch ganje mone sardara nu vekh ke.
Naale ajeeb jeha hulliya banaya hunda, ajeed style di daarhiya kat lainde jida kise ne daarhi di bich bich tractor chalaya hove.Vekh ke ta hassa hi aunda phir.Insaan lagde hi nahi kise passe to, Sardar di gal ta door.Agle vekhan ale v vekh hasde aa.
Chalo mone hi sahi, par ghato ghato kuj ta vaal rakh lavo, kuj ta sharam honi chaidi.
Hun tainu lagda ke eho je mone waps Sardar ban sakde aa, ja eho je loka ch oh andaro feeling aundi hovegi ke kade waps Sardar banan.
Apne ik PJ de munde da example laila, shreef jatt kang.Kehnda c ke ohne ta hamesha mona hi rehna, bhave koi kuj v kahe.

Kuj bolan to pehla soch leya kar.

Main "saare' singers vaare keha v kad.Main ta ohna vaare kehnda c jerhe apne khayaala nu gaane ch paake gaunde aa.Garry Sandhu apne gaane aap nahi likhda ? Taahio ohda example ditta c.

Gaun nu ta koi kise da gaa lave, koi harz thodi aa ehde ch.It's fine.
But we're obviously fans of those artists, jina diya galla sanu pasand hove, ja assi ohna diya galla to influence ho jaan(bhave puthi matt hove ja siddhi), ja saddi apni soch v ohna naal mildi hove.Only then you become a fan of a particularr artists, and at times people start associating themselves with those singers.Obviously you'll be listening to a lotta singers and might be liking them as well, par jaroori nahi ke tu ohna da fan hi hovega.

Hun bai thande dimaag naal read kari, samjhi phir reply kari.Khunnas ch na kari reply.

Sas ri Kal, Sas si kal, Sat Sri Akaal, gal ekko hi ah. Bande nu samaj auni chai di bas. Tohanu samaj aggi naa??? Bas ehna bohat ah. Nale ehne josh wich ni aye da.

Mein wi bar bar appne app nu repeat nahi karna chaunda jo mein phela likh chukka. Hun mein bas ah likhna.

Eh kade na socho ki tohada dharam kinne ke uchaa wa. Es karke hi sariya dharma uttey laraiya hundia ne. Eh socho ki tusi hora nu ki sikhya de sakde ho appne dharam rahi te ki sikh sakde ho hora dharma toh. Rabb te kise cheez ch wi waas sakda hai. Bas rab nu poojan de wakhre wakhre tareeke ne har dharam de. Koi muurti pooj da te koi kush. Es karke tusi neeme hi ho chale kise muurti murrey chukk ke. Kyo ki oh wi rabb hi ah kise religion da, te eh soch ke chukk jao ki tusi rabb de murrey chukk rahe ho. Nale tusi lokka di tension ghat lawo. Karan deo jo karde lokki. Appe kise din samaj jann ge.

Gal kiti jawe singers bare, es modern jamane wich taa singers bas entertainment bann ke reh gai ne, keha jaa sakda  gaunde ghat ah te nachar jada bann ge ne. Singers toh kush sikhan wali te gal hi ni rahi ajj kal. Je ehne hi buree lagde garry sandhu warge singers, fer ta ohna di koi album na buy kare. Par ajj kal chalda hi eh kush ah, looka nu bas entertainment jada pasand ah kush sikhan di jaga. Vaise meri soch wich singer da kam hunda ek wadiya message dena public nu jis toh lokk kush sikh sakan. Manak sabb. Har gane wich koi na koi message ah. Hun je gal kiti jawe Chamkile di, oh siga ek bohat hi talented singer te entertainer, par os ne koi wadia message ni deliver kita appne ganaya rahi, par fer wi oh manak sabb, gurdas mann te shinde nalo jada popular ho gaya.

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Re: Sikhism: discussion
« Reply #26 on: January 06, 2012, 11:53:50 AM »
Sas ri Kal, Sas si kal, Sat Sri Akaal, gal ekko hi ah. Bande nu samaj auni chai di bas. Tohanu samaj aggi naa???[/color] Bas ehna bohat ah. Nale ehne josh wich ni aye da.
yaar pawan kinaa sounaa topic aa tey kiniyaan souniyaan galla kar rey ne sare jida da eh topic ah har bandaa souch samjh ke gall kar reya tey tu souch samjh ke pelah lafz e jairaa ke pehchan ah sab de jida asi salam tey kaii namaste kainde aa jay asi salam de thaan salm likh daiee tey ki changa lagoo bas veer tu man lay eh lafz tere pehchan aa ainuu saii likh liyaa kar thxx tey mind na kareya kar na e doujiyaa nu keh ke samjh tey aa e jandi aa bas eidhaa vi likh iya karoo sab nu samjhaa ke saii likhyaan karoo thx

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Re: Sikhism: discussion
« Reply #27 on: January 06, 2012, 12:26:17 PM »
yaar pawan kinaa sounaa topic aa tey kiniyaan souniyaan galla kar rey ne sare jida da eh topic ah har bandaa souch samjh ke gall kar reya tey tu souch samjh ke pelah lafz e jairaa ke pehchan ah sab de jida asi salam tey kaii namaste kainde aa jay asi salam de thaan salm likh daiee tey ki changa lagoo bas veer tu man lay eh lafz tere pehchan aa ainuu saii likh liyaa kar thxx tey mind na kareya kar na e doujiyaa nu keh ke samjh tey aa e jandi aa bas eidhaa vi likh iya karoo sab nu samjhaa ke saii likhyaan karoo thx

Bhaji tusi sahi kehnde ho, par punjabi di gal hor ah. Punjabi bohat tara boli jandi ah, jidda koi delhi sher da sadde pindd ah jawe, punjabi bolan wich farak jaroor hou ga. Hun jidda asi pind ch kehnde ah, mein te odda hi kehnda wa. Hun angreji bhasha lai lawo example, so many different accents and ways of pronouncing things. Ah word appa ek example lende angreji da. India te UK wich edda spell karde appa "Colour" America wich asi edda spell karde "Color". Sas ri kal keh ditta jaa sat sri akaal keh ditta. Jidda kise nu changa lagda odda kawe :smile:
« Last Edit: January 06, 2012, 01:08:39 PM by Pawan ਜੱtt »

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Re: Sikhism: discussion
« Reply #28 on: January 06, 2012, 12:59:38 PM »
use sat sri akal ..

vadiya lagda aa



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Re: Sikhism: discussion
« Reply #29 on: January 08, 2012, 09:46:05 AM »
Rab Alllah God Buddha Guru

Different name , Aim is the same

je tuhadi gal sab nu smj aa jawe ta kise gal da rola he na rahe :happy:

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Eh kade na socho ki tohada dharam kinne ke uchaa wa. Es karke hi sariya dharma uttey laraiya hundia ne. Eh socho ki tusi hora nu ki sikhya de sakde ho appne dharam rahi te ki sikh sakde ho hora dharma toh. Rabb te kise cheez ch wi waas sakda hai. Bas rab nu poojan de wakhre wakhre tareeke ne har dharam de. Koi muurti pooj da te koi kush. Es karke tusi neeme hi ho chale kise muurti murrey chukk ke. Kyo ki oh wi rabb hi ah kise religion da, te eh soch ke chukk jao ki tusi rabb de murrey chukk rahe ho. Nale tusi lokka di tension ghat lawo. Karan deo jo karde lokki. Appe kise din samaj jann ge.

 

 yup murati puja nu koi blame nahi de sakde , oh ta kan kan ch vasda , bas dekhan da najariya kio jia este depend aa te tuhadi shrda kini aa rab ch , "ghat ghat mein har ju base santan kahiyo pukar "- slok mahala 9!

rahi gal bhgat dhna ji ne pathar cho he thakur nu pragat kita c !! hor v bahut lambiya chodiya kahaniya !!

gal hai tuhade vishwas te sidhi jihe gal eho aa te mukdi v !! :happy:

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Re: Sikhism: discussion
« Reply #30 on: February 16, 2012, 10:35:21 AM »
Sat Sri Akaal sareya nu !!
Finally got the time to write to the topic (because of lying on the bed with sickness).

Anyways, thanks to all the readers for reading through the topic and sharing their views.
728 views, good..

Ok now coming back to the topic.

@
Bhaji tusi sahi kehnde ho, par punjabi di gal hor ah. Punjabi bohat tara boli jandi ah, jidda koi delhi sher da sadde pindd ah jawe, punjabi bolan wich farak jaroor hou ga. Hun jidda asi pind ch kehnde ah, mein te odda hi kehnda wa. Hun angreji bhasha lai lawo example, so many different accents and ways of pronouncing things. Ah word appa ek example lende angreji da. India te UK wich edda spell karde appa "Colour" America wich asi edda spell karde "Color". Sas ri kal keh ditta jaa sat sri akaal keh ditta. Jidda kise nu changa lagda odda kawe :smile:
Lol, no comments to you bro.
And yeah btw, Pawan  Jatt can also be pronounced as 'Pawn' Jatt by some people depending on the area.
So Pawn Jatt can be also be transformed to = Porn Jatt.
So, from now on I'll call you 'Porn Jatt'.I hope you won't mind

Naale, tu keh reha ke ladaiya dharma de wich es karke hundiya kyunki lok apne dharam nu dujje dharma to ucha samjde aa.
Meri kise v gal de vich superiority complex reflect nahi kar reha, oh ta sirf teri niyani soch aa jedi es disha vich ja rahi aa.
Main ta sirf ehio explain kitta ke pathar di bani moorti nu poojna bhakti nahi aa balki apne mann da bhulekha aa.It's like taking a short cut for not searching for the true lord within ourselves, but imagining the lord inside a statue made of stone which has been carved in a devi or a devta's shape and looks.
Honestly, do you really think that the great almighty is entrapped in a stone made statue ?
I can hire a sculpturer and get a beautiful statue prepared but is that going to be a form of 'God' ?
Ofcourse, the statue can be a beautiful monument, a part of the heritage and can be used as an important source of reference to the history but cannot be presented as a form of the supreme power.

Gur Gobind Singh Sahib defines the great supreme lord with no color, shape, form or gendre but yet his presence can be felt whenever you remember him with a true feeling.This was written by Gur Gobind Singh Ji at Paonta Sahib, Himachal where a huge Gurdwara stands today as Gurdwara Paonta Sahib and is my favourite Gurdwara.

My argument is not about who is greater than whom.
Sorry to say, but your arguments are not holding much weight and the same are being liked by your friend Princess something or whatever her name is......

I'm not against Hinduism(there's a lot you can learn from Hinduism, after all they're our ancestors).
But the concept of worshipping deities or stone made statues as god is not a part of my mentality and neither the Sikh mentality I believe.

@ Nek Singh.

Veer, thoddi gallan to mainu eh lag reha, jida koi student apne teacher da favourite bannan di koshish kar reha hove.
Sorry, please don't mind, I don't mean to be rude.It's what I think after having gone through your words.

Just like I asked before, that if two people(one without 'rehat' and other with rehat) follow the same path( routine naal nitnem amritvehle, japji sahib, rehraas sahib, sukhmani sahib, jaap sahib, sawaiye sahib aur chopai sahib kare), do kaar seva in Gurdwara and is away from arogance.
More or less both possess same characteristics but the only difference is of the rehat.

So, is Baba Ji going to treat the second person in special just because he kept the rehat with him ?
You said that Baba Ji loves every one as equal without holding any difference.

And in the second verdict you mentioned that Gur Gobind Singh Sahib Ji would give importance to the Rehat than the Sikh ?
What exactly did you mean by saying this ?
Does this not contradict your previous verdict ?

You are not going to be judged in the Lord's court based on your attire.
The Guru is the way to the Lord, whom you'll face after you leave your body from this world.

If Mother Teresa and a Amritdhari Khalsa Woman(who also serves mankind and humanity just like Great Mother Teresa), then will the Khalsa Woman be treated specially in the Lord's court just because she was a Khalsa and kept her full rehat ?
Then what about the pure deeds that Mother Teresa did in her life ? Do they get over shadowed because the other woman is a Khalsa ?
Sorry to use Mother Teresa's name here, there's no comparison for her.But take it as an example.

First think about it, then understand "WHY".
The answer to "WHY" is damn important to know.

WHY Gur Gobind Singh Sahib told Sikhs to keep rehat ?
Do you have any damn clue about it ?
Why do you keep rehat ? Just because somebody has told you to, may be that's why ?
Or may be there's this hooplah of being punished later for cutting your hair, and eventually maintain rehat with a fear of not getting punished by Baba Ji.All this is told by our elders, and that's why we do it with fear, kithe Baba Ji naraaz na ho jaan.
Ask any Sikh for the reason. they won't have any answer to it.They just do it because their parents told them and they were told by their parents and so on.

And I get surprised that none of the young Sikh youth tries putting forth an effort to know it, try doing a research over it, try understanding the connetcion of rehat with spirituality, eventually why do we keep 'kes'.
They'd rather waste more than half of their life in doing 'maa bhen' to others, or with daroo and nashe, thinking that it's cool.

I don't care what people think of me in real life or here at PJ, but I do give a serious thought to it.
I try recollecting things from different Historical Gurdwaras of Dasam Patshah Ji.The closest Gurdwara to my heart is Gurdwara Paonta Sahib, where Gur Gobind Sahib spent his young age, spent his time writing paaths like Jaap Sahib, spent his time in spirituality, where his first Son, Sahibzada Ajit Singh was born.The place has a great happy vibe, kyunki oh pehla sheher c jo Guru Sahib ne apne hathi vasaya c.
Near by the main Gurdwara, there are so many other historical Gurdwaras of Dasam Patshah ji which go completely ignored by the Sikhs of Punjab.All of the seva goes to Harmandir Sahib, but no one really cares about these Gurdwaras where Gur Gobind Singh Sahib spent the maximum part of his life.
Why ?
Just because Gurdwara Harmandir Sahib has the biggest name ? Maximum seva goes there only.What about other Gurdwaras ? Compare Gurdwara Taran Tarn Sahib with Harmandir Sahib which is less than 20 Kms away from Harmadir Sahib ? At Harmandir Sahib they've installed Bose speakers and at Taran Tarn Sahib just an old rusty loud speaker.

Anyway, the reason for me to mention about Paonta Sahib was that one can get to know a lot about Gur Gobind Singh Ji and his sight about the lord.
The spot is still maintained where he wrote the paaths, so one can imagine Baba Ji sitting at that spot back in time and try understanding Baba Ji's thoughts and listen to Jaap Sahib, Sawaiye Sahib and feel what Baba Ji felt at that time and at that spot.That brings me closer to him.
I mean that's what I feel and that's how I imagine things.In history, any date between 1700 to 1800 makes me imagine about Gur Gobind Singh Ji.
Like King Henry the 4th in France, I went to see his Chateau(castle) and it was built during the times of our Gurus, so I try co-relating events this way.I imagined our Gurus in real life going through such hard and difficult times while there was a similar scenerio for the French during that era and the similar massacres taking place near the Chateau.

Anyway, this is just a gimplse of how I work.

Coming back to the questions of 'WHY ?'.
I am always hungry to know this WHY.

After this 'WHY' comes 'HOW'.

These two questions are what I always emphasize on no matter whatever I am doing.

First let's talk about the 'WHY' ?

In my perception, keeping kes is not just subject to Sikhism.Infact people kept kes long before Sikhim even had the space to evolve.Example-Jesus Christ and many Great Saints like him.

Every hair on our body has some purpose to it.The hair on the head are like recievers which receives information from the environment.
The nature of these informations are vibrations which every human being and object from the nature releases.
The vibrations are not like the one which we get on cellphones.These vibrations are received but cannot be seen.These vibrations are an energy which we all carry.Every living and non living object does have an energy.Humans and other living beings have an energy system.This energy is transmitted or recieved from others as vibes.

Just when we meet a very happy, joyful and a positive person, we feel the same with that person.People sort of gravitate towards that person.
Why is that ?
Because it's an exachange of energy.
The cells and micro particals in our body light up when they recieve pure, positive and happy vibes, thus resulting to an attraction(non sexual) to that person.

And the opposite happens when we a meet a negative person.People tend to repel away from that person.

This all because of the energy that we carry with us, and this energy comes from a source which is our beleive system.

So coming to the subject of 'Kes', these kes are like recievers on our head and when these single recievers are caught and tied together on the head as a top knot, it sort of becomes an antena with a stronger signal strength.
Your power to recieve and spread energy becomes stronger.

Now let's talk about the 'HOW' part.
Now, if we talk about energy again, our body has 7 main energy fields out of which some are bigger and some smaller energy fields.From the legs to the lower abdomen, from the abdomen to the chest and from the chest finally to the top of the head, these energy fields are spread across.
These energy fields are called as 'Chakras'.

The chakra on the top of the head is located in the middle of the scalp.Not exactly the middle but a little further from the forhead and more towards the crown of the head.
Now this is the spot where the topknot(Joorha) is ACTUALLY to be tied.
We see Sikh people tying the topknot closer to the forehead, but in actual the right place is the crown of the head which is further from the forehead, because that's where the chakra is located.
I've come across that Muslims call that spot as "Chaand" while in Hinduism it is "Chakra".

This is why so many spiritual personalities that we come across in history and also the ones mentioned in the Gur Granth Sahib had long hair.All our Gurus had long hair.Sant Ravidas Ji had long hair too and many more.

Now this adds to spirituality.
Having long hair gives a better connectivity with the nature.As it is mentioned in all the holy books in the world, that God is present everywhere and in everything in the nature, so we can connect ourselves with the nature better.
We can feel a stronger presence of God around us.

Also in Hinduism, there's a concept of sticking the the tongue to the roof of the mouth exactly in alignment with the pitutary gland(the gland is located exactly in the centre of the head, which controls other major galnds of the body) and also at the same time having the index finger touching the thumb while meditating and along with the "jhoorha" tied right over the spot of the chakra.
The sensation they get from this meditation is called as 'Amritdhara'.
So this connects to the concept of the energy system.May be they call it 'Amritdhara' because they recieve a pure and a strong vibe with the presence of God around them.

So keeping kes has connection with energy system this way.
Now to be spiritual, having kes is important.

So keeping in mind the above context, in short the "WHY" and "HOW" gets answered this way :
WHY = its a source for feeding the energy system with a greater strength
HOW = we have different energy fields speard out across our body(mainly 7), and each fields stronger with maintaining the hair on the body and most importantly the hair on the head and the beard.

Let's talk about Khalsa :

Now coming to Khalsa.
As we all know that Khalsa means pure.How is it pure ?
Just because you had Amrit, does it mean you're purified ?
I think NO.
To be a Khalsa you first have to have a heart to atleast purify your mind so that the pure endowment of the 'Rehat of Khalsa' stays in you.

For example - je tussi ik gande barhtan wich dudh paoge, te dudh ne ta phitna hi aa.Par je tussi barhtan nu pehla saaf karonge phir dudh paoge, taahi ta dudh tikuga os de wich.

Gurbani naal v eh hi aa.Pehla apne mann nu saaf karo, apne mann nu taiyaar karo taahi ta Gurbani thodde dil wich tikugi.Aur eh suakha nahi.
Khalsa banna saukha nahi aa.

And Khalsa is not something which every Sikh has to be.
NO.
It's a way of life.If one who wants to live a Saintly life, this is the right and a naturally balanced way of life for that person.Not everyone has the strength and mindset to be a Khalsa.

Khalsa is what makes you rise up from greed, arogance and lust(the lower self).
You grow the higher self of yours.It's not the Khalsa attire, it is the person in that Khalsa attire.

Ever wondered why Gur Gobind Singh Ji has kept consumption of non-veg as forbidden for a Khalsa ?
Not because killing an animal is a sin because it causes pain to it.Do we not kill vegetative plants for food, it causes pain to them also but just because they cannot express or scream about it like other animals, we presume it to be a pure diet and not a sinful one.
I don't mean to say that killing animals for eating them is right, ofcourse it is not.
But why Guru Sahib has kept it forbidden for a Khalsa is because eating non-veg will make the blood warmer and with a warmer blood comes aggression and with aggression you cannot meditate upon the lord's name.
Although Gur Gobind Singh Ji himself use to hunt sometimes.But non-veg is to be comsumed only when needed or when there is no choice for a Khalsa and that to only of 'jhatka'

Once you're a true a Khalsa, you're a Saint but also a Soldier.A Saint who can take his hand to the sword only when peaceful means fail.

All the above context about a Khalsa is based on my own perception.This is what I feel and I thought of sharing with all.This perception I've formed through a long deep research into spiritual matters and also our Sikh history and co-relating them.

Being a Khalsa means pure.
Why is it pure ?
I think the above context should explain it now.

Khalsa is very uplifted way of life.Those who wish to lead a spiritual way of life, the Khalsa way of life is the best way to do.

Working hard is not the only way to succeed, but working hard the right way will surely bring you success.Every one today works hard but if the work doesn't bring any result it's then useless.

So to be spiritual, our actions and thoughts need to channelized in the right way so that the results can be felt.The right way would not mean tying yourself with a branch of a tree with your hair or by running over hot burning charcoal or pinning needles in your body like Saadhus to show god that you love him.Ofcourse you would love him and you might be spiritual also, but these actions won't bring you anything.

The Khalsa way is the right way because you not only feel an eternal bliss by having the strength but your inner happiness grows out bigger by serving the needy and mankind.This is what god wants.
Why we call Khalsa roop as the Guru's roop because there is somehting about it which Gur Gobind Singh Ji experienced and felt the power of this nature's gift.He knew the difference between both and endowed this to us.
That's why Gur Gobind Singh Ji has told that whoever wants to have darshan of him can have it anytime through himself or herself if he or she is in the Khalsa roop.It's like what a father leaves for his children.It's something that our beloved father Gur Gobind Singh Ji has gifted us with it because he wants us to experience the same.He wants us to be like him, though we all know that nobody can be like him, but that's his greatness that cannot be measured in any form.


The above context explains it all about my verdict of a Khalsa.
I hope that the readers may have gotten some insight about what I percieve of being a Khalsa.
This is what I believe and I've shared it with you all.





Now let me talk about a trimmed beard :

Nek Singh said that I was trying to justify a trimmed bearded guy against a Khalsa.
Lol.
That's all false.
I wasn't justifying.
I'm a cut serd.But my reason to be bearded is that I feel better about myself with a beard rather than being clean shaven.

Being clean shaven feels to damn feminish, and I don't like to look at myself in the mirror when clean shaven.
Yuck !!

Being bearded feels not only masculine to me but also feels more confident.I prefer rough looks, feels more manly.But apart from this I also feel more Serdy.It may also have something to do with spirituality because my beard may not be a full length but somewhere I feel spiritually stronger as well when I'm bearded.

So my message was to all those Serd friends who have a trimmed beard (with turban) shouldn't feel complexed about themsleves because they have something which the clean shaven cut serds don't have, which is a "Jigra" and masculinity and shouldn't give a damn to those girls who prefer the clean shaven ones.Same goes for the ones who are not turbaned but bearded, I find them better off compared to the clean shaven gay looking guys.
Sorry, don't mean to offend the clean shaven guys though, but it's just what I feel.
But if we're born as men, then why be clean shaven ? I mean thats what look good on girls.Would girls look good with full beards like men, although they have beards too but it too light.


Having said all above, I would just wanna add that, Sardari is very dear to me.
I love tying a turban.
Some day with Baba Ji's blessing, I will keep my kes again and get back to pavilion.

Thank you all for taking time and reading.
I need to take a little break myself now.

Waheguru Ji da Khalsa, Waheguru Ji di Fateh !!


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Re: Sikhism: discussion
« Reply #31 on: February 16, 2012, 11:34:49 AM »
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And in the second verdict you mentioned that Gur Gobind Singh Sahib Ji would give importance to the Rehat than the Sikh ?
What exactly did you mean by saying this ?
Does this not contradict your previous verdict ?


You are not going to be judged in the Lord's court based on your attire.
The Guru is the way to the Lord, whom you'll face after you leave your body from this world.


If Mother Teresa and a Amritdhari Khalsa Woman(who also serves mankind and humanity just like Great Mother Teresa), then will the Khalsa Woman be treated specially in the Lord's court just because she was a Khalsa and kept her full rehat ?
Then what about the pure deeds that Mother Teresa did in her life ? Do they get over shadowed because the other woman is a Khalsa ?Sorry to use Mother Teresa's name here, there's no comparison for her.But take it as an example.


veere mai sirf ehna kehana chaunda si keh guru de hukum anusar je tusi sikh kahona aa teh rehat nu follow karna jaroori aa
par rehat bina vi tusi cahnge bande ban sakde ho .. jive ke tusi mother teresa da example dita .. mere khayal naal oh vi isayi dharam nu mandi sigi .. religious sigi teh jis nu v mandi si uste pakki sigi .. .
har ik insan nu (atleast majority nu ) taan koi na koi guide chahida hunda aa life ch galat sahi dekhan layi .. je tusi sikhi nu apna
guide manana hai taan odha hi karna theek aa jive guru da hukum aa.. apne aap nu usto uper kive samjh sakde aa..





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WHY Gur Gobind Singh Sahib told Sikhs to keep rehat ?
Do you have any damn clue about it ?
Why do you keep rehat ? Just because somebody has told you to, may be that's why ?
Or may be there's this hooplah of being punished later for cutting your hair, and eventually maintain rehat with a fear of not getting punished by Baba Ji.All this is told by our elders, and that's why we do it with fear, kithe Baba Ji naraaz na ho jaan.
Ask any Sikh for the reason. they won't have any answer to it.They just do it because their parents told them and they were told by their parents and so on.


U urself have explained the scientific reason behind keeping kes.
I have also heard the same reason.
guru ji de according sadi body jive kudrat ne banayi aa odha hi rakhani chahidi aa.
mai taan aap kesh tahi rakhe kyn ke mere parents ne keha si rakhan nu ..
reason har ik kakar da baad ch pta lag gya si apne aap jive jive curiosity vadi ..






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Now let me talk about a trimmed beard :


Nek Singh said that I was trying to justify a trimmed bearded guy against a Khalsa.
Lol.
That's all false.
I wasn't justifying.
I'm a cut serd.But my reason to be bearded is that I feel better about myself with a beard rather than being clean shaven.


Being clean shaven feels to damn feminish, and I don't like to look at myself in the mirror when clean shaven.
Yuck !!


Being bearded feels not only masculine to me but also feels more confident.I prefer rough looks, feels more manly.But apart from this I also feel more Serdy.It may also have something to do with spirituality because my beard may not be a full length but somewhere I feel spiritually stronger as well when I'm bearded.


So my message was to all those Serd friends who have a trimmed beard (with turban) shouldn't feel complexed about themsleves because they have something which the clean shaven cut serds don't have, which is a "Jigra" and masculinity and shouldn't give a damn to those girls who prefer the clean shaven ones.Same goes for the ones who are not turbaned but bearded, I find them better off compared to the clean shaven gay looking guys.
Sorry, don't mean to offend the clean shaven guys though, but it's just what I feel.
But if we're born as men, then why be clean shaven ? I mean thats what look good on girls.Would girls look good with full beards like men, although they have beards too but it too light.


ethe hi tusi uper jina vadiya likheya sare teh pani fer dita ..
u again tried justifying the same thing
trim dhadi rakhan layi jigra .. that what u think bro..
ohnu hi jigra laguga jo bahut jayda sochda aa dujeya bare keh oh ki sochan ge and all that ..
bande de apne utte aa keh ohne ki krna aa .. enve hi comparison kran di koi lod nhi bro ..
fe je comparison krna aa hi aa teh
dhadhi katti , ganja banda , pag wala dhadi trim karan wala all are same ..
there are no half measures 22 ji ..


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, I would just wanna add that, Sardari is very dear to me.
I love tying a turban.
Some day with Baba Ji's blessing, I will keep my kes again and get back to pavilion.


Baba ji sarbhat da bhla karan




















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Re: Sikhism: discussion
« Reply #32 on: February 16, 2012, 11:40:36 AM »
keep the eogs aside and think for a second ..u r talking about par bhrahm parmeshwar.... discuss but lsten to the others point of views as well.. its not a war tht you have to win and tell others that dont have damn clue... its about learning..

sorry no offence to anyone

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Re: Sikhism: discussion
« Reply #33 on: February 16, 2012, 11:46:58 AM »
keep the eogs aside and think for a second ..u r talking about par bhrahm parmeshwar.... discuss but lsten to the others point of views as well.. its not a war tht you have to win and tell others that dont have damn clue... its about learning..

sorry no offence to anyone


yeah sure bro ..
sorry je main kite jayda bol gya hovan

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Re: Sikhism: discussion
« Reply #34 on: February 16, 2012, 02:01:12 PM »
ethe hi tusi uper jina vadiya likheya sare teh pani fer dita ..
u again tried justifying the same thing
trim dhadi rakhan layi jigra .. that what u think bro..
ohnu hi jigra laguga jo bahut jayda sochda aa dujeya bare keh oh ki sochan ge and all that ..
bande de apne utte aa keh ohne ki krna aa .. enve hi comparison kran di koi lod nhi bro ..
fe je comparison krna aa hi aa teh
dhadhi katti , ganja banda , pag wala dhadi trim karan wala all are same ..
there are no half measures 22 ji ..

Lol Veer,
I think you still haven't got the point.

According to you a Sikh and a Khalsa are the same.
I explained you the meaning of a Khalsa and a Sikh (in my version).

I am not a Khalsa but a Sikh.

Now about the trimmed beard, this goes back to the previous voting topic.
There I wasn't discussing about Sikhi until you came in, for which I had to create this topic after our prolonged coversation.
In the previous topic where there was a voting between 3 categories i.e, a)mona sardar, b) sardar with a trimmed beard and c)complete sardar.
My intention was to not let the Sardar bros feel left out.
After all what they have, needs courage to have.

Now this was where you came in with the religious point of view whereas I was putting my point which was inclined towards how bearded men can also be as good looking as clean shaven ones.
Most girls in India fall for the clean shaven ones which is not the case in Europe.
So I gave an example that if you're a Sardar with a trimmed beard you can also look good with a neatly tied turban(not a typical pendu pagg or a Shahi pagg) and beard.
This was more towards a style talk not a religious one.
There I wasn't justifying trimmed beard against a full beard.

Does keeping a beard(although a trimmed one) not require courage ?
Ofcourse it does.It's a unique courage which is not owned by everyone.You do feel the difference with and without it.
And growing out a full beard like a Khalsa takes even more courage than that.

I wasn't trying to compare actually, I was trying to highlight this unique feeling which dwells in some men to grow a beard.
The beard indicates courage, aggresivenss, sportiness, outgoing-ness and maniless in a man.
It was point that I was trying to make which highlights that men are born this way, even if you cut it it's going to grow out again.It's something that your body is forcing to grow out, then why clean it off everytime ? Why not then keep some of it and trim it little once in 10 days rather than shaving it off every day.
Honestly I find shaving every day a nasty habit.

I feel like vomiting when somebody shaves in front of me.
Infact I feel that being bearded is more cleaner than being clean shaven.Once you have a beard it feels soft to touch it, but if you shave, next day you'll see that greenish hair growing out and it also stings to touch.
This is not the case with a trimmed beard.

I enjoy being bearded, simple.
Why I enjoy because I have the above charcteristics that I mentioned and also it shows that I am a Punjabi.
My beard is also my brand.

For a Serd, his turban will be his brand, he'll be known and recognized by turban, but since I do not tie a turban, my beard is my brand.

Ok, a beard may not suit everyone, it was a point of view that I tried sharing.

But later your point of view came in suddenly which was denying trimmed bearded Sardars as Non-Sikhs.
According to you, the Sikh must have a full beard.

I respect your feelings and view point but I do not agree with it either.
Not because I want to justify, but because I do not see the logic.A Khalsa can be a Sikh obviously, but a Sikh doesn't have to be Khalsa to be a Sikh.

Your whole view point in the previois topic claims Sardars with trimmed beards as Non-Sikhs and followed by my disagreement I gave a long written example of it.

I think you're trying to feel better about yourself by claiming yourself as a pure Sikh, which is ok, I have no problem with it but your categorization of Sikhs is what I don't agree with.

If according to you, all men are equal and god loves them all, then what is the purpose of Khalsa ??
The answer to this question is in the long essay that I wrote above which I now feel was a waste of energy and time, because you still don't happen to get through your head.

I can't believe that even after putting in so much, you still didn't get it.

Please understand it well and then talk.
If you find yourself standing in the same please then please go through it once again if you have the time but please do no waste my and other's time by replying back just for the sake of replying back, with something which keeps things stagnant.





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Re: Sikhism: discussion
« Reply #35 on: February 16, 2012, 04:33:26 PM »
Good to know :smile:

some of these questions were in my mind too

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Re: Sikhism: discussion
« Reply #36 on: February 18, 2012, 12:01:41 AM »
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.A Khalsa can be a Sikh obviously, but a Sikh doesn't have to be Khalsa to be a Sikh.


no veer


sikh = khalsa
khalsa = sikh


nhi manana teh na mann..


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I can't believe that even after putting in so much, you still didn't get it.


same goes to you bro ...


jeda banda guru di nhi sun sakda meri ki mannu ..
guru di kirpa hoyi teh aaapi hi mann jana tusi ..


rabb rakha






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Re: Sikhism: discussion
« Reply #37 on: February 18, 2012, 04:57:59 AM »
no veer


sikh = khalsa
khalsa = sikh


nhi manana teh na mann..

Common...
Grow up dude..

Don't take it personal.

You haven't understood it yet(was expecting this kind of a reply only.So predictable).

Let me put it this way.

Khalsa is a way of life.
A unique experience.
A blissful feeling, something that will definitely make you feel complete.
That's a Saintly way of life which only that perosn can lead who has the mind set to have that way of life.
This was a life style which Gur Gobind Singh Ji had and has gifted this to us in form of Khalsa.

Sikh is a person who follows Gur Granth Sahib, has his or her complete faith in it, abides by the teachings of it.
If Sikh and Khalsa were the same then why has Gur Gobind Singh Ji used both the terms differently at different occassions ?

For example :
1. "Khalsa mero roop hai khaas ?"
2. "Sab Sikhan ko hukkam hai, Guru maneyo Granth"
Do you see the difference in both ?

A Khalsa is definitely a Sikh, but a Sikh is definitely not always a Khalsa.

Khalsa is a roop which you have be in, to follow the Khalsa way of life.
It's all together a different philosophy, a different outlook towards life.
That's why it is also called a pure way of life.This way of life brings internal happiness, an eternal bliss and this is what Gur Gobind Singh Ji gave to the Sikhs, those who wish to become a Khalsa can become so.


Khalsa and Sikh are different.
May be we can say that Sikh is the way towards being a Khalsa.
That's a choice that one has to make.

You're misguided and you're highly obssessed with calling Khalsa and Sikh the same, don't know why though.


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Re: Sikhism: discussion
« Reply #38 on: February 18, 2012, 05:24:20 AM »

"Rehni Rahe Soi Sikh Mera"
meaning Only those can be called my Sikhs, who follow the Sikh Rehat completely !

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« Reply #39 on: February 18, 2012, 08:21:23 AM »
nice to know :smile:

 

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[October 31, 2014, 03:43:44 PM]


Voting: Mr Punjabi Janta 2014 by Gabbar Singhh
[October 31, 2014, 03:05:40 PM]


<*>Tappeyaan Di Lea Vaaari<*> by ☆♥☆∂ɛɛρ ƨαи∂нʋ ☆♥☆
[October 31, 2014, 02:48:39 PM]


Application to the Headmaster by apurv dukhi by ḋђἔἔҭђ
[October 31, 2014, 02:34:20 PM]


Tu Ohi Hai Na ___ by _尺oยภคк_
[October 31, 2014, 01:48:14 PM]


Dosti by ਕੈਮਸ
[October 31, 2014, 12:54:37 PM]


***Santra Kha Ke*** by cαℓι5αвαη❀
[October 31, 2014, 12:40:58 PM]


31st OCT 1984 by ਕੈਮਸ
[October 31, 2014, 12:20:46 PM]


your MOOD now by ☆♥☆∂ɛɛρ ƨαи∂нʋ ☆♥☆
[October 31, 2014, 11:11:06 AM]


happy birthday Gurpinder Mand by ☾◔Ɖɛηα♏ɛ.47
[October 31, 2014, 03:00:43 AM]


Happy Birhday AmRind③r (29) by ♦ ਗਭਰੂ ਚੋਟੀ ਦਾ ♦
[October 31, 2014, 02:33:17 AM]


tere naam by Gujjar no1
[October 31, 2014, 01:17:34 AM]


Tan hee meray vall oh takda nahi, by ਕੈਮਸ
[October 31, 2014, 12:02:39 AM]


Tere Ishq Ch Channa Kho Gaye… by ਕੈਮਸ
[October 30, 2014, 11:54:44 PM]


Sukshinder Shinda - Gum sum lyrics by ਕੈਮਸ
[October 30, 2014, 11:44:47 PM]


ABC Game by ਕੈਮਸ
[October 30, 2014, 11:40:55 PM]


PJ Gabru Promotion MANU MAAN by Apna Punjab
[October 30, 2014, 07:32:43 PM]


Post Your Pet Pictures. by ღ נαѕѕу ღ
[October 30, 2014, 06:19:29 PM]


Classic Moments on PJ :D by Gujjar no1
[October 30, 2014, 12:34:45 PM]