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Consumer Report: Lexus GX "Do Not Buy"
« on: April 13, 2010, 05:27:50 PM »



At a time when Toyota Motor Corp. is trying to regain consumer confidence following a series of large recalls and federal probes into safety defects, Consumer Reports on Tuesday warned shoppers not to purchase one of the company's upscale Lexus models because of a rollover risk.

The magazine, which for years has recommended most Toyota vehicles, said the Lexus GX 460 SUV failed a key emergency-handling test and issued a rare "Don't Buy" warning.

The last time the Yonkers, N.Y., magazine, famous for its independent testing of autos and buyer recommendations, issued such a warning was in 2001, when it said that the performance of a Mitsubishi Montero Limited was "not acceptable."

The caution not to purchase the Lexus GX SUV comes as Toyota is using aggressive financing and lease incentives to spur sales of its Toyota-branded vehicles and regain market share lost to safety concerns. The Japanese carmaker has issued nearly 10 million recall notices worldwide in recent months for problems related to sudden acceleration that it blames on sticky gas pedals and faulty floor-mat design as well as braking problems in some hybrid models.

Last week the U.S. Department of Transportation said it would seek the maximum civil fine of $16.4 million against Toyota for delays in notifying authorities about defects in its gas pedals.

Consumer Reports said that it testing staff found that "when pushed to its limits on a handling course" on the magazine's test track, the rear of the Lexus GX "slid out until the vehicle was almost sideways" before the vehicles electronic stability control system was able to regain control. All four of the magazine's test drivers experienced the problem.

The magazine said such a situation could happen in "real-world driving" and that it could lead to a rollover accident.

The phenomenon, known as "lift-off oversteer" could occur "when a driver enters a highway's exit ramp or drives through a sweeping turn and encounters an unexpected obstacle or suddenly finds that the turn is too tight for the vehicle's speed," Consumer Reports said.

"A natural impulse is to quickly lift off the accelerator pedal. If that were to happen in the GX, the rear could slide around far enough that a wheel could strike a curb or slide off the pavement," the magazine said.

Consumer Reports contacted Toyota and was told in an e-mail response that the automaker was "mystified by the results of Consumer Reports testing on the Lexus GX 460."

After the magazine issued its do not buy warning, Toyota posted a statement on its website saying that it was "concerned with the results of Consumer Reports testing on the Lexus GX 460 and their suggested buyer recommendation."

Toyota said its engineers conducts similar tests and believes "these procedures provide a good indication of how our vehicles will perform in the real-world; however, we will try to duplicate the Consumer Reports' test to determine if appropriate steps need to be taken."

The automaker said that the vehicle "meets or exceeds all federal government testing requirements."

The report will "scratch the scab" starting to cover Toyota's efforts to shore up its brand name and image, said James Bell, an analyst for auto information company Kelley Blue Book.

It "comes at time when many within Toyota must have been breathing at least a little easier," he said.

Recent tracking of consumer attitudes by Kelley had found that safety concerns about the Toyota and Lexus brands were starting to wane before this latest warning, Bell said.

Consumer Reports, which tested a Lexus that it had purchased to review, said no other SUV it has tested in recent years has slid out as far as the GX 460, "including the Toyota 4Runner, which shares the same platform as the GX." It found the same problems in a second vehicle it obtained to double check its findings.

The magazine said it has reported its concerns to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.

The GX 460 has been on sale for about three months and about 5,000 vehicles have been sold, according to Consumer Reports. The magazine said it is not aware of any injuries or accidents resulting from the alleged flaw.

Generally, Toyota vehicles have performed well in Consumer Reports tests. A year ago, Consumer Reports recommended 22 of the 25 Toyota products it tested, more than any other manufacturer. But because of the recalls, the magazine only recommended 13 of 26 Toyota models this year.

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Consumer Report: Lexus GX "Do Not Buy"
« on: April 13, 2010, 05:27:50 PM »

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Re: Consumer Report: Lexus GX "Do Not Buy"
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2010, 05:31:55 PM »
Toyota is So dead..


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Re: Consumer Report: Lexus GX "Do Not Buy"
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2010, 07:11:43 PM »
yeah i heard that it was on news i think
the US government fined toyota 16 millions or something and recalled all the vehicles.
thats so dangerous imagine you taking ur foot off the pedal and then it sticks there .. instead of breakin you hit someone at higher speed!

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Re: Consumer Report: Lexus GX "Do Not Buy"
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2010, 08:32:08 AM »
They Should fire there Quality Department for the Race Padels.

Ruined the reputation.. So many recalled. First It was on the top now everyone think twice about Toyota

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Re: Consumer Report: Lexus GX "Do Not Buy"
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2010, 09:27:03 AM »
Mein vi akhbar vich parhya. Navi khaber eh.

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Re: Consumer Report: Lexus GX "Do Not Buy"
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2010, 06:28:08 PM »
Well I have not heard from anybody around me...One of mine friends have same car and she is not facing any of the problems...Anyways need to careful if it still exits in future... :lost:

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Re: Consumer Report: Lexus GX "Do Not Buy"
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2010, 09:59:48 PM »
Well I have not heard from anybody around me...One of mine friends have same car and she is not facing any of the problems...Anyways need to careful if it still exits in future... :lost:

It's a rare condition that happens to SUVs. It is more common in this Lexus model. So tell her to be careful when getting on ramp. Or taking turns when driving fast.

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Re: Consumer Report: Lexus GX "Do Not Buy"
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2010, 10:04:13 PM »
Kudrat ji please ask your friend to go see a Dealer and get the issue fixed that can assure it won't happen in near future

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Re: Consumer Report: Lexus GX "Do Not Buy"
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2010, 10:09:32 PM »
It's probably only the new 2010/2011 model.

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Re: Consumer Report: Lexus GX "Do Not Buy"
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2010, 10:21:58 PM »
One of my workmate she bought Lexus RX 450h hybrid one cost her about 125,000 au dollars . but they are okay

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Re: Consumer Report: Lexus GX "Do Not Buy"
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2010, 10:23:11 PM »
That's worse for Toyota. Toyota is having a hard time right now and their sales are dropping everyday
GM is going up now..they have reopened and rehired their workers cuz of huge demand for GM vehicles.

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Re: Consumer Report: Lexus GX "Do Not Buy"
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2010, 11:18:36 PM »
It's a rare condition that happens to SUVs. It is more common in this Lexus model. So tell her to be careful when getting on ramp. Or taking turns when driving fast.

Kudrat ji please ask your friend to go see a Dealer and get the issue fixed that can assure it won't happen in near future

hanji jaroor kahangi...vase appa kade fast turn ta lende nai...te gaddi te v vadu control aa..vase ohnu v mein careful drive karde hi vekhia...rest u r so thoughtful thanks for that... :happy:

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Re: Consumer Report: Lexus GX "Do Not Buy"
« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2010, 11:27:12 PM »
That's worse for Toyota. Toyota is having a hard time right now and their sales are dropping everyday
GM is going up now..they have reopened and rehired their workers cuz of huge demand for GM vehicles.

lol GM lost about 4 billion during their "going down" time. Its going to be hard trying to get that back.

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Re: Consumer Report: Lexus GX "Do Not Buy"
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2010, 11:33:34 PM »
That's worse for Toyota. Toyota is having a hard time right now and their sales are dropping everyday
GM is going up now..they have reopened and rehired their workers cuz of huge demand for GM vehicles.
No wonder coz new camaro is so cheap and they gonna go back up

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Re: Consumer Report: Lexus GX "Do Not Buy"
« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2010, 06:40:46 PM »
lol GM lost about 4 billion during their "going down" time. Its going to be hard trying to get that back.


Soon they gonna recover all that money cuz they are taking over all TM sales

No wonder coz new camaro is so cheap and they gonna go back up

one of ma friend works at GM manufacturing plant and he was laid off but they called him back now and now he get Overtime almost every week.

 

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