eve rooi kyon janda aa.... ah lai... actually u deserved i guess..

rooi tan tu janna lol, kam karo once these suggestions and been filled .. atleast put a stamp on the end to say "RESOLVED" or "NOTED" and then u can delete the thread in a week.

show wadiya chal rehaa dj yams da aj .. discussion chal rahi sukh dhillon te german punjaban.



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http://youtu.be/_Ej16FmkDIY

http://youtu.be/Gm89-9HFwKU

eh hegi latest recordnig
yamla jatt aka dj yams di pehli show recordingg.
Sun ke daseyo kidhan laggya munde da show

ethee dass k advertsiemnt thoda karni :hehe:

bhot sahi keha munde ne.

eda lagda jida kuri lagi khedan cricket lol

nahi kuriye it shows.. while baaki loki koyi pray kar reha.. koyi ek dujjey naal larrhh rahe, koyi haar ke bethe..
bas ek kuri khari a to hit back at the asteroidd.. jehraa hit karan lagga..  Kuri da josh.. self confidence.. dekho and himmat.

very inspiringg picture hegi

so chill bill mullapuria  fun shun kar te karan dei lol

kehra fun shun ? like this therad also? jehra sab ton important thread hega

http://punjabijanta.com/help-and-suggestions/feedback-for-pj/

look at that bas it only took 1 single post that didnt relate to topic and ek dumm thread da encounter hogyaa..
Kise sub admin ne halley tak cleanup nahi kitti othe.  It shows, lot of kam de topics are gettin overlooked and bas ignore ho rahe ne.

We can't hate on everything, some fun should be allowed. You can't become so strict that it harms the attitude of the site.

Every section doesn't need a mod, because every section is not active.
The only sections that have local moderators are the ones where a VIP user has heavy activity in. In all other cases, we have Global Moderators.
It is another problem that Global Mods don't do enough.

I see no problem with the murder topic. If anything that is a topic that showcases how discussions should happen. Free and open to express all viewpoints.


List such a thread, and we can fix it. Are you talking about those small words reply topics, those are fun to some people. We should definitely delete some of the replies there.

There is stuff that admins and global mods must discuss in private. A local mod is a person aspiring to become a global mod, so they shouldn't be allowed in there. They must show that they're worth the effort of including them in the Staff.

We can't hate on everything, some fun should be allowed. You can't become so strict that it harms the attitude of the site.

what strictness yaar, u gota look at the topic by its basis. if the topic is serious then u gota show some intiatiev and serious sense. Ofcourse if topic isnt serious then anything can happen.
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There is stuff that admins and global mods must discuss in private. A local mod is a person aspiring to become a global mod, so they shouldn't be allowed in there. They must show that they're worth the effort of including them in the Staff.

im a mod of 2 sections hun when i became mod no1 told me what my responsibilites were and no1 gave me any information. A moderator should know who is gettin demoted.. kithe.. what topic is being disgussed where and how.  This creates a big disconnect between mods and people higher up .. now u must have seen the PJ feedback therad. Post number 20 te dhayaan dawo.  Even Sub admin realizes  the problem, but no action has been taken about this situation yet.

http://punjabijanta.com/help-and-suggestions/feedback-for-pj/msg669010/#msg669010
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List such a thread, and we can fix it. Are you talking about those small words reply topics, those are fun to some people. We should definitely delete some of the replies there.

http://punjabijanta.com/news-khabran/murder-case-of-jassi-sidhu/msg683939/?topicseen#new

yea murder case thread was serious thread and it asked for serous discussion on a sensitive topic.

but still yaar i think more activity from mods is needed.. i see mods/subadminss  posting more on PJ fb.. khilaraa bahla hundaa par kam diyaan gallan te bhot ghat dhyaan.
It would be nice to set roles and responsibilites and tasks to mods and higherups.. That way  you exactly know who is doing what and who is not doin their taskss.

If pj is short on staff, then lets find users that are active  and look at the topics they post more in .. that way responsiblities given to them will keep them interested and they wont go in lazy mode.


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lot of good points there grenade seyanh

lol de bhot matlab hunde a.

jad gussey howe banda te jawab ch koyi gaal nahi kadni hundi tan sidha "lol'

je kise da mazaak uraunaa par ohna nu feel bad nahi karwauna "lol"
je kuch funny gal howe tan "lol"
je sad gal howe "lol"

lol hi lol babeyo.

You can find lots of information here: history, news stories.

http://www.justiceforjassi.com/

Here is the original movie that aired on CBC's the Fifth Estate:

http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/murderedbride/video.html

i remember watchin this, that story is mostly one sided. We never get to hear the parents' point of view.

btw u havent replied to my question bibi kohinooor.. i put in the shoes of the parents.

i think she took wrong step and i thing she deserves to die...I'm in strong favour of her parents andi think what they did was legitimating (in my option)
but she should have ask her parents and should gain their support in order to win her love.
parents never go against you they just want you to see happy and you just have win their support.

aha wi good poitn a ki she could have asked parents and gained t heir support.. par appan nu ehe gal nahi pataa full story .  I think theres a full documentary of this story out there.  Maybe if bibi kohinoor can find a link to the full story pher we can get a good judgement


And bibi kohinoor, focus on the topic.. just delete  the posts that dont relate wtih a topic.

Women Liberation

I find Islam to be liberating not oppressive: women are partners.

Islam is the first religion which systematically empowered women when women were considered as totally subservient to man. There was no concept of her being an independent entity and enjoying equal right with dignity. We live in a country where women are over-sexualised and sold as 'products' for capitalist gains. A woman's beauty is splashed around everywhere, and she is only judged by that. Islam tells a woman to cover up so that she is not abused as Western women are. Islam provides the security and respect to women community than other religions. The western countries are using the women as an entertainment channels. All the women in the world should think about themselves then decide what is right and what is wrong for them in other religions (than Islam)
 
 What is feminism? Nothing but women’s movement to empower her and to consider her full human being and not mere second sex as ‘Simon de Bouire called her. Thus we see in western countries until early part of twentieth century she did not enjoy an independent status. It was only after thirties of twentieth century that she won equal status legally and various western countries passed the laws to this effect. Yet patriarchy is looming large on her in these countries.
 
Qur’an empowered her and gave equal status. Another important question is what is the difference between Islamic and western feminism or is there any difference at all. If we go by definition of feminism as an ideology of empowerment of women, there is no difference. On the other hand, women had no rights and but won through great deal of struggle and this struggle came to be known as ‘feminism’ i.e. women’s empowerment.
 
But there are significant differences also between Islamic and western feminism. Islamic feminism is based on certain non-negotiable values i.e. equality with honour and dignity. Freedom has certain Islamic responsibility whereas in the west freedom tends to degenerate into licentiousness, though not in law but certainly in social and cultural practices. In western culture sexual freedom has become a matter of women’s right and sex has become matter of enjoyment and lost its sanctity as an instrument of procreation.
 
Qur’an does lay down certain strict norms for sexual behavior. Both man woman have right to sexual gratification (a woman has as much right to sexual gratification as man) but within marital frame-work. There is no concept of freedom for extramarital sex in any form. Sex is permissible only with marital framework. Sex, as far as Islam is concerned, is not mere enjoyment but an act for procreations and hence has sanctity.
 
It is important here to emphasize that in a patriarchal society men decided the norms of sexual behavior. It was theorized that man has greater urge for sex and hence he needs multiple wives and woman tends to be passive and hence has to be content with one. This is not true as far as Qur’an is concerned. Qur’an’s approach is very different. It is not greater or lesser degree of sexual urge which necessitates multiple or monogamous marriage.
 
Whole emphasis is on monogamous marriage (in both the Qur’anic verses i.e. 4:3 and 4:129). Multiple marriages were permitted only to take care of widows and orphans and not for greater sexual urge and the verse 4:129 gives the norm of monogamy and not to leave first wife in suspense or neglected. Thus as far as Qur’an is concerned sexual gratification is a non-negotiable right for both man woman. And hence a divorcee and a widow are also permitted to marry and gratify their sexual urge.
 
Also, in western capitalist countries women’s dignity has been compromised and she has been reduced to a commodity to be exploited. Her semi-naked postures and her sexuality is exploited commercially unabashedly. It is totally against the concept of woman’s honour and dignity. Unfortunately western feminists do not consider this as objectionable but accept it as part of woman’s freedom. Some (though not many) even advocate prostitution as woman’s right to earn her bread.
 
This is against the concept of Islamic feminism as while sanctioning sexual gratification as much right of woman as that of man, it prohibits extra-marital sexual liaison and on one hand upholds dignity and honour of woman and on the other, exalts sex on the level of sanctity and restricts it for procreation.. Thus it would be seen that discourse of Islamic feminism, while having something in common with modern western feminism, it also significantly differs from it. Islamic feminists have to observe certain norms which modern western feminists are not obliged to.

There is institutionalised oppression of women in all cultures. In India Hindu female foetocide numbers approximately two million every year. Hinduism is rife with sexism. Women are classed as objects owned by men. The Muslims from the Sub-continent were converted from Hinduism. They carry even now a lot of Hindu traditions of dishonouring women mostly in isolated ruler areas. In urban areas Muslims are well educated both Islamically and worldly and women have all the rights given by Islam.

UNICEF photo of the year shows, a bridegroom, 40, with his 11-year-old bride in Afghanistan. The bridegroom is going to take care of her and their future children. UNICEF photo of the year must show that the teenage pregnancies and abortion, drug addiction, binge drinking and anti-social behavior is on the rise in Britain. All of them are burden on British tax-payers. This is sickening. It's no wonder Great Britain is in such a bad shape. Ten years old British girls are haveing babies out of wedlock. They are not allowed to get married but are allowed to have babies. Teenage pregnancy rate in Great Britain is the highest in Western Europe. It is a civilised country and Yemen is a backward country because it allows young girls to get married.

The Holy Quran gives more rights to women than the so called western civilisation.
 Western Secularism cannot teach Muslims how to treat women. Islam teaches us how to be civilised. Islam is a middle path. Women are even abused in the UK Parliament, which is called the Mother of Parliament. It is not just verbal abuse the female MPs have had to deal with. The tradition of killing women for family honour is a “curse”. Violence against women is a global phenomenon. An Australian Judge failed to jail nine males who admitted gang-raping a 10-year old Aboriginal girl, by saying the victim probably agreed to have sex with them. More than half the babies born to British mothers this year will be outside marriage for the first time since records begins. There is a steady decline in marriage among British couples. Nearly all births to Pakistani mothers are within wedlock.   

The veil signified the rejection of an unacceptable system of values which debased women while Islam elevated women to a position of honour and respect. It is not liberation, where women go naked. It is just oppression, because men want to see them naked. Miniskirts and plunging necklines represent oppression. Veil is a sign of liberation from a prevailing and dangerous western, secular norm – namely, a view of women purely as sexual objects. Western culture is liberalism, and that is in itself a set of norms. But now the time has come that liberalism must change its attitudes because Britain and the whole of West has undergone significant change. It is a fact that a veil cannot be equated with forced marriages, female circumcision or unequal education for girls. The real difference between man and woman is that they have different kinds of bodies designed for very different purposes, and they have also different kinds of mind because these, too, are designed to contribute differently to human needs and purposes. Men tend to be more imaginative and have more flair than women, but women are much more tenacious and better at multilasking than men.

Muslim boys and Girls need state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Male and female Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. Muslim youths feel torn between two cultures, thanks to the state schools with monolingual non-Muslim teachers. Islam teaches Muslims youths to be virgin but western education system teaches the opposite. It makes their lives very confusing.  They suffer from Identity Crises. The solution is that each and every Muslim child should be in state funded Muslim schools because western education makes a man stupid and selfish according to Lord Bertrand Russell.
Iftikhar Ahmad

Bro, all the cons in this research paper or report or essay.. has lot examples to support ur proof. You are obviously giving good reasons to hate the british system.

But... theres the a big but..  all the positives you have shown about Islam religion being practiced need examples as well to strengthen ur claims or proofs.   You see all those stmts in red ? They are classified as claims.  You gotta post some live examples.  Then report will have strength.. The paper is focused too much on one side. Theres a more work done on the cons.. rather than to show some live concrete evidence of the pros.