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Five people are in hospital after two opposing groups clashed inside a Brampton Sikh temple Sunday afternoon.

The fight broke out at the Guru Nanak Sikh Centre at Glidden Rd. near Hwy 410 and Steeles Ave. when one group tried to break up the other group’s meeting. It started as a fistfight but witnesses say turbans soon flew and hammers, machetes and construction knives were brandished as a group of about 100 people clashed at about 3:45 p.m.
The fight spilled outside as Peel Regional Police scrambled to take control, said witnesses.

“It was quite chaotic,” said Jagdish Grewal, editor of Punjabi Post, a newspaper published in Brampton, who arrived minutes after the fight broke out and saw two men lying outside with a bloodied hammer between them. Others were being given first-aid and taken to hospital.

Inside the hall, where the scuffle happened, Grewal said knives and machetes were still lying on the floor along with torn blood-soaked clothes. “There was blood too on the tiles,” Grewal told the Star.

At heart is the control of the temple but no one will say that openly.

The management was not available to comment on Sunday’s violence but members of the temple said trouble had started brewing a couple of days earlier when the group opposing the management announced that it would hold a meeting inside the temple.

“All we wanted was to have a meeting to discuss matters of the temple,” said Rampal Dhillon, who was inside the hall when the fight broke out. “We started the meeting at 3 p.m. and it was going smoothly when about two dozen people stormed inside.”

They were wielding hammers, machetes and construction knives, said Dhillon, who lives in Dundas, near Hamilton. There was screaming and yelling as people shoved and pushed to get outside, he added.

“It’s an ongoing dispute among the board members,” said Const. George Tudos of Peel Regional Police, adding that police had been called in earlier. “There was indication that there might be some trouble here.”

This fight comes two weeks after Manjit Mangat, a prominent Brampton lawyer, was stabbed outside the Sikh Lehar Centre, a Sikh temple located barely a kilometre away from the temple at Glidden Rd. Witnesses had said at least two men brandished unsheathed kirpans, the ceremonial dagger worn by baptized Sikhs, triggering a fresh controversy about Sikhs’ right to wear it.

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This seems to be the same news as Sikh man attacked with kirpan.

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This seems to be the same news as Sikh man attacked with kirpan.


This is a different News. It happened day before Yesterday at Guru Nanak Sikh Centre.
The other happened at Sikh Lehar International

This was also on CBC yesterday... The reason of the fight was that leadership issues (as I mentioned in the other thread). "CBC Claimed that there is a Civil War Going on in the Sikh temples" This time the weapon used are Hammers, Knifes and Baseball bats.

(No Resource)  - Canadian Government has issued the word that Sikh temples in Toronto range from anywhere 1.5 M to 10 M and much of he money is not counted as it is in cash, So all these opposition leader and leader who rules the Gurudrawa (each Gurughar is ruled seperately I believe) are fighting with each other for the leadership


Now what is this doing is ruing the name of Sikh who cant even keep calm in their temple <- No religion in the world do that!

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So far three incident have happened... I know about the attacks on the temples ... No clue about BC issue..


TORONTO — Violent incidents at two Sikh temples this month in Brampton, Ont.,
along with a controversial decision over the weekend to allow photos of leaders
from banned terrorist groups onto a float in the annual Vaisakhi parade in B.C.,
have marred the image of the Sikh-Canadian community, according to one
group


"Sikhism stands for peace, equality, democracy and all these beautiful
values," Amanpreet Bal of the World Sikh Organization of Canada said Monday.
"And yet you have these handful of people bringing a bad name to the entire
community. These people may look Sikh from their appearance, but they do not
represent Sikh values."

On Sunday, four people were taken to hospital with non-life threatening
injuries after a brawl involving as many as 100 people broke out inside the Sri
Guru Nanak Sikh Centre in Brampton, about 45 kilometres west of Toronto

The fight, reportedly involving machetes, knives and construction axes, was
the result of a long-standing disagreement between two groups from the
temple

When the fight broke out, there were between 300 and 400 people at the
centre

Peel Regional Police have arrested and charged three men — Harvinder Pal
Dhaliwal, 41, Tehal Shergill, 60 and Satwant Deol, 25. The charges include
assault, possessing a weapon for a dangerous purpose, assault causing bodily
harm and assault with a weapon. Officials from the temple refused to comment
Monday

Several police officers were at the centre prior to the incident Sunday
afternoon. They had been called to monitor a meeting that was taking place.</P>


Peel Const. Samantha Nulle said the recent incident was connected to another
stabbing at a temple earlier this month, but she could not say if a kirpan, a
ceremonial dagger carried by devout Sikhs, was used.

"We will not tolerate violent behaviour," she said. "It's against the law and
anybody who refuses to comply with the law will be charged and be dealt with
appropriately."

Officers with the diversity unit of Peel Police have been in contact with
temple members in hopes of preventing another attack. The investigation is
continuing and more people may be arrested, said Nulle.

In early April, prominent Indo-Canadian lawyer Manjit Mangat was stabbed
multiple times in the torso outside the Sikh Lehar Centre, another temple in
Brampton. The weapon used was a kirpan.

Sukhwant Singh, 52, from Brampton, has been charged with attempted murder in
the attack.

The stabbing was allegedly related to Mangat's decision to invite a
controversial Sikh preacher to speak at the temple.

Bal said these attacks have "no doubt" hurt the struggles by the Sikh
community to have the kirpan accepted into mainstream society.

"(These incidents) are a setback to our overall image. Actions like these
will harm the next generation. There is outcry in the community."

Bal also said parade organizers who allowed a pro-Khalistan float in the
annual Vaisakhi parade in Surrey, B.C., over the weekend were asking for trouble
because they were mixing politics with celebration.

The float carried Khalistan flags and photos of leaders from banned terrorist
groups, who are part of a movement for an independent Punjab region, separate
from India.

Tens of thousands of people still attended the event, but organizers caused
an even greater stir when they told Liberal MP Ujjal Dosanjh and Liberal MLA
David Hayer they were not invited to the parade and they would attend at their
own risk. B.C. Premier Gordon Campbell boycotted the celebration and Liberal
Leader Michael Ignatieff called for an apology from the organizers.</P>

The kirpan is typically a six- to nine-inch dagger, sheathed and worn in a
fabric holster close to the body at all times.

In 2006, the Supreme Court of Canada ruled against restrictions or a ban on
the ceremonial dagger in public places. The issue came up after a 17-year-old
Montreal student was kicked out of school because the school board claimed his
kirpan was a dangerous weapon. The court ruled that there were no violent
incidents involving the kirpan in the century that Sikhs have been carrying them
to classes

Bal said the law needs to come down hard on the perpetrators in these
incidents, as an example to the community that violence over political or
personal beliefs will not be condoned.

"We still have work to do," said Bal. "We need to isolate and eliminate these
bad apples in our community."

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This is getting funny now...

Today a meeting was held in another GuruGhar for the leadership of another Gurughar (Rexdale Sikh Temple this time) and Just to make sure that there is no fight Toronto Police was posted around the Gurudwara.

More over here: (680 News - A leading Toronto Radio) http://www.680news.com/news/local/article/47305--police-at-sikh-centre-in-rexdale-to-keep-an-eye-on-possible-violence


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