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Top 5 - Most Corrupt Politicians Of World
« on: June 05, 2010, 09:09:24 PM »
Mohammed Soharto

Soharto was second President of Indonesia and he served his country for 32 years. According to latest reports he is one of the most corrupt politicians of the world,Trasnparency international has put him on top of the list of most corrupt politicians and his critics allege him of misappropriating about $ 15-30 Billion during his reign.

Mohamed Soharto is also blamed for death of 100000 of East Timors during his 32-year rule.


Ferdinand Marcos

Ferdinand Marcos was a lawyer by profession and served as President of Phillipines from 1965 to 1986, according to an estimate he looted about $ 5 to 10 billion from the public wealth of Phillipines Government
In 1986 very popular public movement called “people power” forced powerful Ferdinand Marcos and his family to go into exile in Hawaii,where he died three years later;


Sani Abacha

Sani abacha was the Nigerian military leader from 1993 to 1998, according to transparency international he plundered Government money of worth $ 5 Billion which is equal to 10 % of annual income of Nigeria from oil in these 5 years of his Presidency.

According to news reports,in 2002, Abacha’s family agreed to return $1.2 billion that was taken from the central bank,other than corruption charges he is also charged with human rights abuse ,he died of heart attack in June 1998.


Mobutu Sese Seko

Mobutu Sese Seko served as President of Zaire from 1965 to 1997, according to a report by Transparency international,Mobutu Sese Seko is world’s third most corrupt leader in last two decades plundering more than $5 billion USD from his country.
According to latest reports he mostly looted the money of aid received from World Bank for the development of Congo, Congo received about $12 billion in aid in 32 years of his rule.


Joseph Estrada

Joseph Estrada was the 13th President of the Philippines, serving from 1998 until 2001 and he was also very popular Phillpinese movie actor, his film career was of about 33 years.

In October 2000, Ilocos Sur’s governor Luis “Chavit” Singson, a close friend of Estrada, alleged that he had personally given the President P400 million as payoff from jueteng hidden in a bank account known as “Jose Velarde” – a grassroots-based numbers game, as well as P180 million from the government price subsidy for the tobacco farmers’ marketing cooperative, John Estrada had to resign after the impeachment was ordered by the House of representatives.

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Top 5 - Most Corrupt Politicians Of World
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Re: Top 5 - Most Corrupt Politicians Of World
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2010, 10:06:21 PM »
How interesting that you did not include most of George Bush's government. Considering there were at least a dozen Goldman Sachs ex CEO and Board Directors advising that government which conned the American people out of $700 billion to bail out Wall Street and do the American people know what happened to the money; I'd say an emphatic NO.

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Re: Top 5 - Most Corrupt Politicians Of World
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2010, 12:42:39 AM »
what the hell!

Mohamed Soharto is also blamed for death of 100000 of East Timors during his 32-year rule.


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Re: Top 5 - Most Corrupt Politicians Of World
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2010, 12:56:02 AM »
Good to see ... Indian Politicians are not among top 5....
coz watever they do they do it so cleanly... :loll:

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Re: Top 5 - Most Corrupt Politicians Of World
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2010, 07:50:22 PM »
How interesting that you did not include most of George Bush's government. Considering there were at least a dozen Goldman Sachs ex CEO and Board Directors advising that government which conned the American people out of $700 billion to bail out Wall Street and do the American people know what happened to the money; I'd say an emphatic NO.
Were those wall street (cone men) politicians.?
what the hell!

Mohamed Soharto is also blamed for death of 100000 of East Timors during his 32-year rule.


Veere, Timor  is an island of the western Pacific Ocean in the Malay Archipelago east of Java, divided between Indonesia and East Timor. The western half of the island, formerly Netherlands Timor, became part of Indonesia in 1949. The eastern half was an overseas province of Portugal from 1914 until 1975, when it declared its independence as East Timor. Indonesia invaded the same year and annexed East Timor in 1976. East Timor achieved full independence in 2002. During this invasion loads of East Timor people got killed and Soharto is blamed for this invasion.
Good to see ... Indian Politicians are not among top 5....
coz watever they do they do it so cleanly... :loll:

An Indian politician went to the US to visit his counterpart. When the

senator invited him home for dinner, the minister was very impressed

by the lavish mansion, grounds and the costly furnishings. He asked

"How can you afford all this on a meagre senator's salary?"

The senator smiled knowingly and took him to the window.

"Can you see the river?"

"Yes"

"Can you see the bridge over it?"

"Of course", said the minister.

"10 percent", said the senator smugly.


Some time later, he had occasion to pay a return visit. The Indian

minister lavished all hospitality on him. When they came to his

house, the American was stunned by the huge palace the minister had

built, glittering with precious art, hundreds of servants etc. etc.

"How can you possibly afford this, on a salary in RS?', he asked.

The minister called him to the window.

"See the river over there?"

"Sure", cried the senator.

"Can you see the bridge over it?"

The senator looked, was confused, peered closely and said -

"No, I don't see any bridge."

"100 percent", said the minister !!

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Re: Top 5 - Most Corrupt Politicians Of World
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2010, 07:55:13 PM »
 :loll: :loll: :loll: :loll:

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Re: Top 5 - Most Corrupt Politicians Of World
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2010, 08:10:48 PM »
cz india da kuj nai hegaaa
te baki i didnt read it :D

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Re: Top 5 - Most Corrupt Politicians Of World
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2010, 08:26:05 PM »
SonnenKinder

You ask "Were those wall street (cone men) politicians.?"

But I should say conmen. These conmen were unelected politicians, who ran the financial affairs for George Bush's Treasury. Ex Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson is one such person. If you dig deep enough you will see that there were many more like him serving in that government. I could list a lot of them; at least 12. it is very easy to list obvious characters from third world countries such as those you list above. But sometimes corruption is much closer to home; it is often cloak and dagger /:).






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Re: Top 5 - Most Corrupt Politicians Of World
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2010, 08:42:54 PM »
cz india da kuj nai hegaaa
te baki i didnt read it :D
o ta manu pta tusi parda kuch ni bas ainwa hi comment kr danda  :happy:
SonnenKinder

You ask "Were those wall street (cone men) politicians.?"

But I should say conmen. These conmen were unelected politicians, who ran the financial affairs for George Bush's Treasury. Ex Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson is one such person. If you dig deep enough you will see that there were many more like him serving in that government. I could list a lot of them; at least 12. it is very easy to list obvious characters from third world countries such as those you list above. But sometimes corruption is much closer to home; it is often cloak and dagger /:).






Who are unelected politicians? never heard of them. Dude a politican is one who holds a political office not an executive office. Who is actively involved in politics, specially in party politics. And for your kind information, it is not me who listed those persons as most corrupt politicians of world. It is a  NGO Transparency International a very renowned name the world over. If you dont agree to their list, suggest your own names to them.

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Re: Top 5 - Most Corrupt Politicians Of World
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2010, 08:52:17 PM »
An Indian politician went to the US to visit his counterpart. When the

senator invited him home for dinner, the minister was very impressed

by the lavish mansion, grounds and the costly furnishings. He asked

"How can you afford all this on a meagre senator's salary?"

The senator smiled knowingly and took him to the window.

"Can you see the river?"

"Yes"

"Can you see the bridge over it?"

"Of course", said the minister.

"10 percent", said the senator smugly.


Some time later, he had occasion to pay a return visit. The Indian

minister lavished all hospitality on him. When they came to his

house, the American was stunned by the huge palace the minister had

built, glittering with precious art, hundreds of servants etc. etc.

"How can you possibly afford this, on a salary in RS?', he asked.

The minister called him to the window.

"See the river over there?"

"Sure", cried the senator.

"Can you see the bridge over it?"

The senator looked, was confused, peered closely and said -

"No, I don't see any bridge."

"100 percent", said the minister !!


 :loll: :loll: :loll:


aure oh badal sarkar nu nhi add kita ..???

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Re: Top 5 - Most Corrupt Politicians Of World
« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2010, 09:45:30 PM »
Who are unelected politicians? never heard of them. Dude a politican is one who holds a political office not an executive office. Who is actively involved in politics, specially in party politics. And for your kind information, it is not me who listed those persons as most corrupt politicians of world. It is a  NGO Transparency International a very renowned name the world over. If you dont agree to their list, suggest your own names to them.

Listen mate, perhaps it is different on your side of the pond. In the UK we call it the Civil Service, who are unelected but have a great influence on politics, some of them go onto stand for office. When I used the term "unelected politicians" I used it loosely, but they are there. Now, even you would agree that your equivalent of our Civil Service does have a huge influence on how America is run. As I said already, Paulson and co are, to me, as corrupt as the next guy even though he might be in darkest Africa. Now many would say that they aren't politicians and I suppose on paper they are not, but their influence is uncanny. Don’t worry, we’ve got our own Paulsons over here too.

So that must be our starting point. I am sorry that you should take it personally what I say. Furthermore, if you have brought such a list to this message board - that’s fine; but don’t expect to open a thread and not have another’s opinion posted on said thread, which renders me to feel I don’t have to suggest anything to the NGO Transparency International for the purposes of this discussion with your good self.

But brother, or brother dude if you wish, I’m sure we can agree to disagree and I am sure we will on many other things too without getting our kachi in a twist. :blink:

Well it’s that time again. 2am UK time.  Perhaps talk tomorrow. Take care. SSA.
 


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Re: Top 5 - Most Corrupt Politicians Of World
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2010, 09:58:28 PM »
thanks for telling sonnen veere you got a vast knowledge about these things.. why partition always create this killing of people?

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Re: Top 5 - Most Corrupt Politicians Of World
« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2010, 10:25:34 PM »
Listen mate, perhaps it is different on your side of the pond. In the UK we call it the Civil Service, who are unelected but have a great influence on politics, some of them go onto stand for office. When I used the term "unelected politicians" I used it loosely, but they are there. Now, even you would agree that your equivalent of our Civil Service does have a huge influence on how America is run. As I said already, Paulson and co are, to me, as corrupt as the next guy even though he might be in darkest Africa. Now many would say that they aren't politicians and I suppose on paper they are not, but their influence is uncanny. Don’t worry, we’ve got our own Paulsons over here too.

So that must be our starting point. I am sorry that you should take it personally what I say. Furthermore, if you have brought such a list to this message board - that’s fine; but don’t expect to open a thread and not have another’s opinion posted on said thread, which renders me to feel I don’t have to suggest anything to the NGO Transparency International for the purposes of this discussion with your good self.

But brother, or brother dude if you wish, I’m sure we can agree to disagree and I am sure we will on many other things too without getting our kachi in a twist. :blink:

Well it’s that time again. 2am UK time.  Perhaps talk tomorrow. Take care. SSA.
 


You are giving a whole new turn to this discussion. Bone of contention is u r describing civil servants or CEOs as Politicians which they are not. Politicians make laws while civil servants implement those laws and watch that those laws are followed by CEOs.I dint say CEOs are not corrupt. I said, you cnt define a CEO as a politician and it is correct. Even CEOs and Civil servants are not same. Civil servants work for public while CEOs work for their respective companies. A person is nominated or elected for a political post while a civil servant is appointed. And yea, m not an american like u think. I am an european born n brought up in ur neighborhood, juss 2 hours flying distance from ur country. Well if u still insist to weigh politicians and CEOs on same scale, u can but i dun agree. Period!!!So i listed Politicians in that post and not so called unelected politicians or CEOs.

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Re: Top 5 - Most Corrupt Politicians Of World
« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2010, 04:16:30 AM »
You are giving a whole new turn to this discussion. Bone of contention is u r describing civil servants or CEOs as Politicians which they are not. Politicians make laws while civil servants implement those laws and watch that those laws are followed by CEOs.I dint say CEOs are not corrupt. I said, you cnt define a CEO as a politician and it is correct. Even CEOs and Civil servants are not same. Civil servants work for public while CEOs work for their respective companies. A person is nominated or elected for a political post while a civil servant is appointed. And yea, m not an american like u think. I am an european born n brought up in ur neighborhood, juss 2 hours flying distance from ur country. Well if u still insist to weigh politicians and CEOs on same scale, u can but i dun agree. Period!!!So i listed Politicians in that post and not so called unelected politicians or CEOs.

But of course we aren’t talking about CEO of companies; therefore I am not defining a CEO as such to be a politician.  However we are talking about CEOs of companies, such as Goldman Sachs, who have been appointed to very senior government positions and are unelected. I might be wrong but Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson is one such person. That’s a treasury secretary to the Governments treasury, not some company. I am being very specific here and not taking a scatter gun approach to all CEOs. As you know he and others like him within the Bush Government were extremely powerful within that political regime. We can argue whether these people are politicians or not but what is inescapable is the fact that they play a role in politics. Also, I know what the Civil Service do and what their job is too!!
As to you being a European or American, I have no axe to grind either way. I don’t expect you to agree with me. But what is good is that there is someone at another keyboard who is willing to debate. I thank you for that.

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Re: Top 5 - Most Corrupt Politicians Of World
« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2010, 05:34:56 AM »
But of course we aren’t talking about CEO of companies; therefore I am not defining a CEO as such to be a politician.  However we are talking about CEOs of companies, such as Goldman Sachs, who have been appointed to very senior government positions and are unelected. I might be wrong but Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson is one such person. That’s a treasury secretary to the Governments treasury, not some company. I am being very specific here and not taking a scatter gun approach to all CEOs. As you know he and others like him within the Bush Government were extremely powerful within that political regime. We can argue whether these people are politicians or not but what is inescapable is the fact that they play a role in politics. Also, I know what the Civil Service do and what their job is too!!
As to you being a European or American, I have no axe to grind either way. I don’t expect you to agree with me. But what is good is that there is someone at another keyboard who is willing to debate. I thank you for that.

This debate started when u commented that i shud hv included Henry Paulson too. I explained i only listed politicians and Henry Paulson hd never been a politician. He was apointed Treasury Sec. by President Bush and later his appointment was approved by Senate. And he even resigned as CEO of Goldman Sach prior to his appointment.  Questions remain about Paulson's interest, despite the fact that he had no direct financial interest in Goldman, since he had sold his entire stake in the firm prior to becoming Treasury Secretary. I am just stating plain facts and not advocating him. Loads of rumours were spread about him like he was shot at and died but he is still alive and healthy, if i am not wrong. Whether he is corrupt or not has not been established. And secondly he cant be classified as a Politician.

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Re: Top 5 - Most Corrupt Politicians Of World
« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2010, 06:42:48 AM »
o ta manu pta tusi parda kuch ni bas ainwa hi comment kr danda  :happy:

hehehe sm tym me pardi ay jad chota jeha howe  :P ofcourse thora intersting v

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« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2010, 05:48:13 PM »
This debate started when u commented that i shud hv included Henry Paulson too. I explained i only listed politicians and Henry Paulson hd never been a politician. He was apointed Treasury Sec. by President Bush and later his appointment was approved by Senate. And he even resigned as CEO of Goldman Sach prior to his appointment.  Questions remain about Paulson's interest, despite the fact that he had no direct financial interest in Goldman, since he had sold his entire stake in the firm prior to becoming Treasury Secretary. I am just stating plain facts and not advocating him. Loads of rumours were spread about him like he was shot at and died but he is still alive and healthy, if i am not wrong. Whether he is corrupt or not has not been established. And secondly he cant be classified as a Politician.


SonnenKinder

Well, okay I accept that and will say fair comment.

I hope you don’t feel offended or in any way think I was picking an argument; I wasn’t. I was just making an observation in general, you might think that cynical, maybe it is but no offence was intended.

But it is good to debate.

Take care

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« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2010, 11:30:29 PM »

SonnenKinder

Well, okay I accept that and will say fair comment.

I hope you don’t feel offended or in any way think I was picking an argument; I wasn’t. I was just making an observation in general, you might think that cynical, maybe it is but no offence was intended.

But it is good to debate.

Take care

yo wlcm bro :happy:

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« Reply #19 on: June 09, 2010, 05:55:40 AM »
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[August 31, 2014, 05:20:00 AM]


Hindustan Te Pakistan Vi Sanjha Aa by mundaxrisky
[August 31, 2014, 05:15:19 AM]


>>>Dedicate a couplet of share/ghazal to the person above by Parv...
[August 31, 2014, 03:37:01 AM]