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Database platforms...
« on: March 29, 2009, 07:50:10 PM »
Just wondering if i wanted to get into learning databases... what would be some most popular platform... access, db2, SQL...etc.. and say if one day i wanted to make a website to pull stuff off of this database... which scripting language would be the most useful?

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« on: March 29, 2009, 07:50:10 PM »

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Re: Database platforms...
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2009, 07:56:03 PM »
I've done programming before... but just didn't get into it... but recently I have been in contact with the leprechaun and he pointed me toward the pot of gold. Then the little bugger disappeared and now I'm left with an idea and a lot of reading. Just want to be pointed into the right direction.

And what if i wanted to automatically log data into this database from and RF device... is that even possible?

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Re: Database platforms...
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2009, 09:59:43 PM »
I don't know what you were thinking when asking the question here, but if I wasn't here, I doubt you would've found an answer to this question.


Anyhow...

If you want to learn databases using baby steps, start with Access.  Access is easier because it can be controlled visually and most Microsoft Office installations already have it.

If you want to log data from an RF device, I'm thinking you're going to need an API.  I'm sure Java/C++ should have something (google searches should help you find a tutorial).  Java has JBDC (a connection layer to different database servers/engines) so you can get info collected there.

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Re: Database platforms...
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2009, 10:49:00 PM »
Ah see... you were the target of the question. :p The reason I posted here is because I would be able to get an answer in normal english not some mashed up technical garbage that i'd  have to go research on to understand.

I've worked with a little bit of everything (access, c++ and microcontrollers), and I know I can catchup on things pretty quickly, fingers crossed. I'm going to assume that www.punjabi-bhangra.com is your website as well, how are you sorting all the music? Personal server?

I've worked with microcontrollers but never tried the wireless ones. I can most likely get the information that I want to gather out of these things, and even get the transmitters to talk. Just changing that information into english and sorting/storing it, is going to be a bitch. Just was hoping that you had come across something like this.

I guess I'll attack the database portion first.

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Re: Database platforms...
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2009, 10:50:49 PM »
You think that PHP would be useful at all?

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Re: Database platforms...
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2009, 11:00:01 PM »
I think you are confusing 2-3 subjects. Or, I'm confused as to what you are actually trying to do. Microcontrollers/RF devices will not help you in any way with websites.

Punjabi-Bhangra is ours, but it is running on commercial software, using PHP language, MySQL database engine, Apache web server.  The sorting is a function of database engine, there are different ways to do sorts on different fields of data. Think of it in this way: Data is handled by MySQL, PHP makes the calls as to what data it wants, Apache is interface that is giving people the pages.  So yes, PHP is the most widely/easy language to use online, Apache the best server (not necessarily the easiest if you want to know its powers), MySQL is the most widely used quick-SQL database engine on the internet.  Oracle is the commercial if you are after database jobs.

Let me know what further info you want to know and be more specific as to what your project is about.

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Re: Database platforms...
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2009, 11:12:46 PM »
Ok, i'm going to make a more detailed description and post it here in the coming days. It's not that I'm confusing 2-3 topics... I just want the topics to work in harmony. Just hoping for you to suggest the right way before I waste a lot of time.

Now i know this is going to be bigger problem/project than I originally thought :( But its ok :)

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Re: Database platforms...
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2009, 11:17:32 PM »
so it really turns into a tech lounge. lol Your getting everything from programming to electronics.

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Re: Database platforms...
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2009, 11:21:24 PM »
Ok, i'm going to make a more detailed description and post it here in the coming days. It's not that I'm confusing 2-3 topics... I just want the topics to work in harmony. Just hoping for you to suggest the right way before I waste a lot of time.

Now i know this is going to be bigger problem/project than I originally thought :( But its ok :)

Right way on the storage/web based side of things... all the websites prove you got some skills. If you know anything about controllers you can toss your suggestions my was as well. Probably going to have to go threw some old textbooks :(  lost:)

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Re: Database platforms...
« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2009, 11:35:58 PM »
Biggest problem to me looks like bridging the data from the uC to the database. Don't even have a clue where to start on that one.

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Re: Database platforms...
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2009, 01:13:05 AM »
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Re: Database platforms...
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Re: Database platforms...
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2009, 07:51:03 AM »
Just wondering if i wanted to get into learning databases... what would be some most popular platform... access, db2, SQL...etc.. and say if one day i wanted to make a website to pull stuff off of this database... which scripting language would be the most useful?


hmmm Databases...
well things are pretty messed up above ....few different things and
different technologies are being put together.

one is databases,,
another is mobile technology,,
and web hosting.. huh
n few semiconductor devices controllers are also thr  .. hmmm

Well brother yes if you are looking forward to step into database management
programming then it will fetch you good salary pacakges all around the
world.. even in recession…. lolzz. :laugh:

As far as databases packages are concerned there are few out there.
I suggest go for SQL bcoz it is widely used and is supported by almost every major databse system in use today. And as far as scripting languages are concerned these languages are embedded in the applications to with they are asociated. I guess PHP or java scripts are the best one ...

and web hosting easy yaar... dont make it seem difficult...
find a web hosting company and publish your site..d thing is its not free. huh

n u said u know abt microcontrollers... hmmm
yaar programming of microcontrollers are a bit diffr its something to do with chipss and is from electronics.. Though IT and electronics are directly associated with each other..but still its a part of electronics... or one can say digital electronics.

As far as www.desi-bhagra.com is concerned it is using apache version 2.2.3 and PHP/5.1.6...

generally apache servers are used ..it dominates web server all over the world and used on linux.. hun linux vi sikhni payegi.. lolzzz   :hehe: … dnt worry databases and linux are two diffr things

databases and rf gt a great link and is used in mobile technologies...

and yeah wireless technologies.. it will give you a safe  future and better perspective of life... mauka milee taan chadna nii.. coz its the technology of the future.. sb kuch wireless hoyega

GO FOR SQL ND PHP jiii aur note shote chapoo. ..

this seems to be a pretty old post I guess till now you have already choosen a path to put yourself on..... haan.???..
aur yaar ina confuse na kita kar …. main vi dar geya si
pls lt me know .... m a bit curious.. ki loki ki ki karde.....

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Re: Database platforms...
« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2009, 08:18:44 AM »
I've realized there are way too many engineers and techie people on PJ.

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Re: Database platforms...
« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2009, 08:28:45 AM »
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Re: Database platforms...
« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2009, 10:47:33 AM »
hmmm Databases...
well things are pretty messed up above ....few different things and
different technologies are being put together.

one is databases,,
another is mobile technology,,
and web hosting.. huh
n few semiconductor devices controllers are also thr  .. hmmm

Well brother yes if you are looking forward to step into database management
programming then it will fetch you good salary pacakges all around the
world.. even in recession…. lolzz. :laugh:

As far as databases packages are concerned there are few out there.
I suggest go for SQL bcoz it is widely used and is supported by almost every major databse system in use today. And as far as scripting languages are concerned these languages are embedded in the applications to with they are asociated. I guess PHP or java scripts are the best one ...

and web hosting easy yaar... dont make it seem difficult...
find a web hosting company and publish your site..d thing is its not free. huh

n u said u know abt microcontrollers... hmmm
yaar programming of microcontrollers are a bit diffr its something to do with chipss and is from electronics.. Though IT and electronics are directly associated with each other..but still its a part of electronics... or one can say digital electronics.

As far as www.desi-bhagra.com is concerned it is using apache version 2.2.3 and PHP/5.1.6...

generally apache servers are used ..it dominates web server all over the world and used on linux.. hun linux vi sikhni payegi.. lolzzz   :hehe: … dnt worry databases and linux are two diffr things

databases and rf gt a great link and is used in mobile technologies...

and yeah wireless technologies.. it will give you a safe  future and better perspective of life... mauka milee taan chadna nii.. coz its the technology of the future.. sb kuch wireless hoyega

GO FOR SQL ND PHP jiii aur note shote chapoo. ..

this seems to be a pretty old post I guess till now you have already choosen a path to put yourself on..... haan.???..
aur yaar ina confuse na kita kar …. main vi dar geya si
pls lt me know .... m a bit curious.. ki loki ki ki karde.....



Well i ended up taking too much of a work load with classes so i'm going to start on this in a couple weeks. I decided to use an At8051 chip (because I have about 5 blank ones in the closet) I'm just going to see if i can get it to send and receive bits of a numbers. After that I'll see if I can display those bits on the computer screen, most likely going to use the parallel(printer) port on the computer seems easier than the USB.

Hosting a website isn't the hard part(My bro does it as a hobby), making it do what you want, is tricky. The other thing is that I'm going to go with Oracle or SQL (Companies like these kind of things on a resume). <- just in case this project is a flop.

Fir dekh de aa... next step... want to do a couple things this summer. Just going to do this slowly.
« Last Edit: June 03, 2009, 10:49:40 AM by Kerfuffle »

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Re: Database platforms...
« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2009, 10:52:32 AM »
The type of wireless im talking about is tv remote kind  :wait:... not bluetooth or ziggbee. Right now its just a challenge. The master plan can work without this gizmo, this thing just gives me trophy to say that i was able to do it. But it does make things more efficient if i can get it to work.

One step at a time :)
« Last Edit: June 03, 2009, 10:56:06 AM by Kerfuffle »

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Re: Database platforms...
« Reply #17 on: June 03, 2009, 11:49:32 AM »
The type of wireless im talking about is tv remote kind  :wait:... not bluetooth or ziggbee. Right now its just a challenge. The master plan can work without this gizmo, this thing just gives me trophy to say that i was able to do it. But it does make things more efficient if i can get it to work.

One step at a time :)

omg lolzzzzz...
you are mixing up things together and confused... and making other confused...
the thing you are talking abt is a part of electronics.......i guess tv remotes have nothing to do with datbases my dear........d topic started is for which database platform you should go for….nd now you are puttig your electronics project in this topic.. lolzz start new post dude…
 
nd as far as talking about 8051 chip programming that is the part of practical classes for college students …..
chip programming is all abt bits bytes and address buses and ragisters and opcodes and i//o ports and other peripherals. Whereas database programming is totally diffr…. Uffffffffffffffff   eeeeeeeewwwwwwww……….
I wonder how can one think of linking both…….

dont know what are u upto ??? nd i can bet no bdy else cant tooo coz u are putting few things together ………….. d topic started for database platforms and now u r talking abt tv remotes….  which is totally diff technology … tv remote tech is all about infrared nd radio signal.. part of digital electronics not information tech…… yes bluetooth and zigbees works on existing wireless lan technology..

well suggestion for you ….complete your project of electronics and then later if you like doin programming then opt for SQL and PHP… ll surely help you a lot and secure your future….….

……. And would love to c ya project working… let me know for sure….
…..

Well thats good …. one step at a time ll work for you…
Best of luck
 :blink: :happy:
Fateh

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Re: Database platforms...
« Reply #18 on: June 03, 2009, 12:02:59 PM »
DEEP, how do you know about everything? What do you do?

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« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2009, 12:07:54 PM »
hmm wht i doo  lolzz thats d prty nice qust... raz ko raz rehne doooo....lolzzz

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