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why Khalistan ????
« on: April 27, 2011, 01:57:09 PM »
WHY SIKHS SHOULDN'T CELEBRATE INDIAN INDEPENDENCE
15 August marks India's Independence Day and prolongs the suffering of the Sikhs. We are clear about our nationhood, but it is denied by the Indian State and the Indian political class which are not prepared to allow us basic rights.



 
 
 Sikhs betrayed and promises broken India's founding fathers gave numerous solemn promises that the Sikhs freedom and dignity would be safeguarded. Jawahar lal Nehru said that the brave Sikhs of Punjab are entitled to special consideration. I see nothing wrong in an area set up in the north of India wherein the Sikhs can also experience the glow of freedom. These promises were conveniently forgotten after independence and the Sikhs were dismissively told by the same Nehru that the circumstances had now changed


 Sikhs have rejected India's Constitution Mahatma Gandhi and Nehru gave the Sikhs assurances that after India achieves political freedom no Constitution shall be framed by the majority community unless it is freely acceptable to the Sikhs. This promise was repeated throughout the period up to independence. When the Constitution was produced in 1950 it failed to deliver any safeguards or political rights for the Sikhs as a people or nation. The Sikhs therefore refused to sign the Constitution and have never accepted it. Article 25 even denies Sikhism, the fifth largest faith in the world, separate recognition as a religion an affront that is widely seen as a deliberate act of suppression of the Sikhs.



 Demands for greater autonomy were dismissed The Indian authorities have systematically discriminated against the Sikhs since 1947 and subverted or suppressed all legitimate political demands for greater autonomy. The Anandpur Sahib Resolution of 1973 set out the basis on which the Sikhs were prepared to accept a political union within India, as a federal state. This demand for internal self-determination was pursued through decades of peaceful protest and attempts at negotiation with the central government. The demands were never seriously considered and given the history of the conflict between the Sikhs and India since 1984, this would now be too little too late.



 Gross violation of Sikh human rights In the last 30 years the Indian authorities have unleashed a rein of terror through gross violation of human rights of Sikhs in an attempt to extinguish the calls for freedom and Sikh independence. In June 1984 the Indian army attacked the Golden Temple Complex and 125 other Sikh Gurdwaras in Punjab and massacred tens of thousands of innocent Sikh pilgrims. This laid the foundation stone for an independent sovereign Sikh State, Khalistan.


In November 1984 tens of thousands of innocent Sikhs were massacred in Delhi and over 130 other cities throughout India by well-orchestrated mobs under the direct supervision of senior Indian politicians and officials.
Over 250,000 Sikhs have been murdered and disappeared since 1984. Many Sikh political prisoners still languish in Indian jails without charge or trial and others have been falsely charged and sentenced to death by hanging. Illegal detention and torture of Sikhs is common place and well documented by independent human rights organisations.



 Sikh nationhood and independence Sikhs first secured political power in the form of an independent state in 1710, after suffering centuries of foreign invasions and alien domination. The larger sovereign Sikh state was established in 1799 and was recognised by all the world powers. The Sikhs, after the two Anglo-Sikh wars, lost their kingdom and the Punjab came under British rule in 1849. However, in giving up power Sikhs were party to several Treaties with the British.



 SIKH PERSONAL LAW DENIED After independence Sikhs have been denied Sikh Personal Law. Hindu Laws has been forced on Sikhs be it be the marriage act or income Tax.Sikhs marriages are registered under hindu act and while filling income tax Sikhs as HUF<hindu undived family>
 
 
 

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Re: why Khalistan ????
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2011, 02:11:43 PM »
ehe bilkul sach hai.....sikh nu  koyi azadi nahi hai...

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Re: why Khalistan ????
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2011, 05:18:31 AM »
Good read.

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Re: why Khalistan ????
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2011, 07:55:19 AM »
I don't understand why you people post the same thing again and again and above doesn't make any sense to me either

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Re: why Khalistan ????
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2011, 10:57:26 AM »
Rahul 22 g... Je Sirf Ek War Pani Mang Lain Naal Pyas Bujh Sakdi Hundi Te Shayad Dunia Te Koi V Insaan Pani Bina Tadap Tadap K Marda Na... I Think Tusi Samjh Gaye Hovoge.

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Re: why Khalistan ????
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2011, 11:03:45 AM »
Rahul 22 g... Je Sirf Ek War Pani Mang Lain Naal Pyas Bujh Sakdi Hundi Te Shayad Dunia Te Koi V Insaan Pani Bina Tadap Tadap K Marda Na... I Think Tusi Samjh Gaye Hovoge.

 
 
 
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Re: why Khalistan ????
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2011, 11:23:49 AM »
22 g main pani naal compare nai kita sirf Rahul 22 di gal da jawab dita k war war kio Khalistan di gal kiti jandi aa.

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Re: why Khalistan ????
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2011, 11:43:34 AM »
 
ਜੇ ਗੂਰ ਗਰੰਥ ਸਹਿਬ ਜੀ ਨੇ

ਖਾਲਿਸਤਾਨ ਦੀ ਮੰਗ ਕੀਤੀ ਹੈ

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Re: why Khalistan ????
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2011, 11:48:39 AM »

ਜੇ ਗੂਰ ਗਰੰਥ ਸਹਿਬ ਜੀ ਨੇ

ਖਾਲਿਸਤਾਨ ਦੀ ਮੰਗ ਕੀਤੀ ਹੈ

ਤਾ ਇਕ ਦਿਨ ਜਰੂਰ ਮਿਲੇਗਾ

ਤੇਰੇ ਮੇਰੇ ਮੰਗਣ ਦੀ ਲੋੜ ਨਹੀ

 
 
 
 
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Re: why Khalistan ????
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2011, 01:01:42 PM »
I don't understand why you people post the same thing again and again and above doesn't make any sense to me either

if u donot understand then donot read jithe khalistan da topic hove open na kariya karo and na reply kariya karo bai ,,, some hindu ta bhindrawale nu bad kahnde but for us he is a hero,,, tu hindu ha i think tht y tannu khalistan di gall sunan vich problum hundi ???? :D: assi te karage khalistan khalistan always jado tak ban nhi janda jinnu pasand read kare sadde topic nhi pasand na read kare ,,,,, :) RAJ KAREGA KHALSA,,,,,, KHALISTAN ZINDABAAD ,,,,,, RAHUL I THINK AGER TERI FAMILY VICHO KISI NU JINDA JALAYA HUNDA 1984 VICH FIR MAI VEKHDA TU KIDDA DE TOPIC BANANDA ,, SO BATTER DONOT TELL US TO STOP ..? I RESPECT U.. BUT IDA DI GALL NA KAHO KI ASI TUVADI RESPECT KARNA BAND KAR DAIYE :) PEACE

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Re: why Khalistan ????
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2011, 01:38:41 PM »
I don't understand why you people post the same thing again and again and above doesn't make any sense to me either

Sahi gal kahi bai. This type of information only starts religious fights. I rather just not post anything khalistan related, If I do then all hell breaks loose here.

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Re: why Khalistan ????
« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2011, 01:55:35 PM »
lock da topic

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Re: why Khalistan ????
« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2011, 02:00:48 PM »
 
84 ਵਿਚ ਜੋ ਸਿੱਖ ਸੀ ਸੜਿਆ

ਉਹਨੂੰ ਖਾਲਿਸਤਾਨ ਦੀ ਲੋੜ ਨਹੀ

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Re: why Khalistan ????
« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2011, 02:09:14 PM »
topic locked...ethee aapaa khalistaan yaa cats dharam nu leke fights nai krniaaa..har bande di apni soch hundi a and sabb ek ne...kise nu kis dhang naal pata challea hunda te kise nu ohi gal hor passe to...so better aa agge to edda de topic na banaaye jaavan jis naal dharam casts di gall aave...sabb to pehla assi punjabi aa indians aa baad ch hau jo vi aa dharam wagera wagera

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Re: why Khalistan ????
« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2011, 06:43:27 PM »
Pade likhe hoke vi sare Anpada waaliya galla karde aa . Mei tuhade sareya to ehi expect kita si.

Thanks Pawan,soulmate and Karam veere.
Some people don't get the meaning that  you want to express.
They get too religious in the forum chahe Gurughar gaye nu sadiya ho gayia hon!..

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Re: why Khalistan ????
« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2011, 10:48:18 PM »
yaar tusi galat kita topic lock karke je tuhanu kuj changa nhi lagga ta tusi o reply remove kar dede te samaj dede ke dobara eda na kareo.............

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Re: why Khalistan ????
« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2011, 10:58:08 PM »
I don't understand why you people post the same thing again and again and above doesn't make any sense to me either

if u donot understand then donot read jithe khalistan da topic hove open na kariya karo and na reply kariya karo bai ,,, some hindu ta bhindrawale nu bad kahnde but for us he is a hero,,, tu hindu ha i think tht y tannu khalistan di gall sunan vich problum hundi ???? :D: assi te karage khalistan khalistan always jado tak ban nhi janda jinnu pasand read kare sadde topic nhi pasand na read kare ,,,,, :) RAJ KAREGA KHALSA,,,,,, KHALISTAN ZINDABAAD ,,,,,, RAHUL I THINK AGER TERI FAMILY VICHO KISI NU JINDA JALAYA HUNDA 1984 VICH FIR MAI VEKHDA TU KIDDA DE TOPIC BANANDA ,, SO BATTER DONOT TELL US TO STOP ..? I RESPECT U.. BUT IDA DI GALL NA KAHO KI ASI TUVADI RESPECT KARNA BAND KAR DAIYE :) PEACE

Respect dilo karidi aa kise nu dikhaun nu nahi karidi.
Paise agge ta sare ji ji karde aa par kise nu dilo ji kehna eh sikhna penda veere.

and jo galla tusi kahiya upar jada hi jazbaati na hoya karo. Jina ne jo karna si oh kar gaye ne and tusi ohde piche lagg ke apne naaldeya naal kahnu irkha karde aa.

Je bahuta hi aa ta Sare apne Punjabi bahar america USA ki karn jande aa ki oh bhul gaye ehna goreya ne kinne apne hindu muslim sikh bhai maare si. OS wele ta koi ni boleya!

Jis te zor chalda oste hi ajmayeo samjhan di gal na kareyo kade. and thanks for tuhada Reply . agge to mai koi thread te comment nahi karda . jo karna karo ladd ladd ke marr jo mera ki janda na nah mai punjab ch rehnda ta na rehna.. just because of this reason!

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Re: why Khalistan ????
« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2011, 12:26:05 AM »
One of the key things I believe in is freedom of speech. We should let users discuss ideas freely and only moderate ones that go out of bounds (like swearing, hatred, abuse, inappropriate behavior etc).


Also, it is very wrong to say this:
tu hindu ha i think tht y tannu khalistan di gall sunan vich problum hundi ???? :D:
Ehda ni kehna chahida tenu, jad ke bathere sikh hege jehna nu khalistan di gal ni pasand, jida ke Karam veerji.

This topic is unlocked.

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Re: why Khalistan ????
« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2011, 12:30:50 AM »
I don't understand why you people post the same thing again and again and above doesn't make any sense to me either

It gets posted over and over again, because some people believe that this kind of history of India is being suppressed. Nobody is forced to believe it, and everybody is free to provide a rebuttal (and I'm sure there are plenty).

Just like we can post over and over again about how India is a diverse nation with the 7th wonder of the world and how it is the biggest democracy of the world, I think we should be willing to listen to the criticism that comes about India.

PS: I don't hate India, I don't love India. I can't hate/love such a big thing. There are aspects that are not likable, like the stuff that Anna Hazare is fighting. And there are aspects that we can commend. Yada Yada.

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Re: why Khalistan ????
« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2011, 12:47:33 AM »
Rahul 22 Sikhan di ladayi kise dharan ja jaati khilaf nai Julam de khilaf aa.  Je Angerejan ne julam kita te Aajadi di ladai ch sab to wad Shaheediyan Sikhan Diya c Je Mugal Julam karde c te Sikhan ne othe v julam Naal Takkar layi. Par ajj je Hinduwadi soch wale Julam kar rahe aa te Sikh ohda v virodh kar rahe aa te karde rahange. Ajj Sikhi Sidhantan De dushman Angrej nai Hinduwadi Soch aa.
Ajj Hindu Sikh bhai bhai di gal karan wale udo kithe gaye c Jado Delhi ch eh Nahre laye jande c KACHH KDA KIRPAN EHNU BHEJO PAKISTAN. Jado Delhi ch 3 din lagatar sikhan da katleaam hunda riha udo kithe c ???

 

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