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The Different Kinds Of Simran
« on: June 30, 2011, 09:44:11 AM »
ajj mein enternet te es bare padiya , changa lagiya so i share here it with you all , its some questions answers about simran ,  Sant Ajaib Singh Ji (  1926-1997 ) who spend their all life to say whts simran n whts importance of that in our life .  so their are some questions jo ki ohna to kitte gaye c about simran , hope so you all like it .




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A question and answer session given December 29, 1985,at Sant Bani Ashram, Village 16 PS,
Rajasthan, India
Q.  Master, when doing meditation, is it better to concentrate on the Simran and listen to
yourself doing Simran in the mind's eye until it is perfect, or to keep the Simran more as a
background to concentrating on the Light?
M.  Often I have said that satsangis should not do any thinking or any fantasizing of the world
while doing Simran. There are three means of achieving liberation:Simran, Dhyan and Bhajan.
All these three practices can happen within our body. By doing Simran we vacate thenine
openings, and after crossing the stars, sun, and moon we reach the Form of the Master. Simran
takes us only up to the Form of the Master.
When we manifest the Form of the Master within us, that Form is very clear: It is as clear as we
are sitting here in front of each other. He will answer all our questions. When the Form of the
Master is manifested, we need Dhyan to keep Him there. Usually when the Form of the Master
comes within the disciple, sometimes he feels that the Form has gone, sometimes he feels that
it has come; but that does not happen. It is not the Form of the Master which comes and goes. It
is because the disciple has not attained enough concentration; he has not had much Dhyan or
contemplation on the Form of the Master, and that is why he feels that the Form sometimes
comes and sometimes goes. If at that time the disciple would contemplate so much on the Form
of the Master that he would forget his own self, so that he would only remember the Form of the
Master, then that Form would remain there forever and the happiness which the disciple would
receive cannot be described.
Many times when we do meditation, if we are aware of our mind then, when we get a little bit of
concentration and if suddenly the Light is manifested within us, since we are not fully
concentrating and since our mind is also working, then we become afraid and don't know what
to do. Many dear ones stop doing meditation when they have such an experience. Many times it
so happens that when the disciple is meditating, and if his mind is also working at that time, then
if graciously Master manifests His Form there, that disciple does not understand whose Form
has come there, because his mind is pulling his soul down while the Master is trying to pull him
up. So he becomes afraid and gives. up doing meditation. So it is very important that when you
do Simran, you should not be aware of your doing Simran.
There are a couple of things which I always say before we sit for meditation. I say them to all the
dear ones in all the groups. The purpose of saying them is, that you should always remember
those things whether you sit for meditation here or back in your home. If you remember them,
you will be able to do the meditation correctly. I always say that you should make the mind quiet,
that you should not understand meditation as a burden, and you should not pay attention to the
outer disturbances. You should not allow your mind to wander outside.
This is a reality: it has come in my own experience that when the Form of the Master is
manifested within you, He remains with you all the time; He accompanies you like a shadow.
Not even for one moment does He go away from you. But the thing is that you should first
manifest the Form of the Master, and you can do that only when you are meditating correctly,
when you are not allowing your mind to play tricks on you.



When the Form of the Master is manifested, other people who have [spiritually developed] eyes,
they can also see that that Form is accompanying you and that He is always with you. Once
when I was going to Punjab on the Rupur canal, at a village called Dyali, I saw a sadhu sitting
and many other people were listening to him. That sadhu had performed austerities, and I felt
like paying homage to him. You know, before meeting the Masters, I also had done rites and
rituals, and performed austerities. So I always had appreciation for those sadhus who had really
done austerities. Even though I did not get anything from that, still I appreciate them, because it
is very hard work.
So when I went there, he was sitting with some other people of the village. He was sitting on a
rope bed, and as soon as he saw me, he got up from that bed and welcomed me. I was trying to
sit on the ground, but he said, "No, don't sit on the ground, come and sit with me on the rope
bed. Because I see Someone with you." I told him, "No, I am like your servant, and I have come
to have your darshan; let me sit on the ground." But he did not let me sit on the ground. When
he insisted, I sat on the gunny sack which was there for the people. While I was sitting there he
would talk to the other people, and after talking to a couple of people he would again tell me that
he was seeing Somebody with me dressed in white with a very great personality. When he told
me repeatedly, I told him, "Yes" - since I knew that it was that God Almighty Kirpal Who is
pervading everywhere, and it was all His grace that the sadhu saw His presence and could tell
that the Master was accompanying me.
So when you are in meditation, when you attain that high position where the Form of the Master
is manifested within you, the people who do a little bit of meditation and go up a little bit, even
they can also see that the Form of the Master is with you. They  can very well see that.
But when you attain such a position you should be very careful; you should not talk about that to
other people, because other people will become jealous of you; they will start thinking, "He is an
initiate like us - how come he has progressed so much and we have  not? And why is Master so
gracious on Him and not on us?" Their jealousy may spoil their meditations. So I always say that
when you attain such a position you should protect it and not talk about it to anyone except the
Master. You should protect it the way a woman protects her body. Because this is the grace of
the Master, and when you have had it you should not show it off to the other people.
Q.  Sometimes when I do my Simran it sits in my throat and I can be concentrated at my
forehead, but sometimes with Your grace the Simran is just in my thoughts. I find that I say it to
myself a lot like I am speaking to myself, like speaking from inside, and that's why it is just stuck
in my throat. And I wondered if, with time, does it move up from the throat? By doing a lot of
Simran, will it move up to the Third Eye?
M.  I have often said that the work which we do every day, if we do it regularly, we become
competent in that. If you continue doing Simran in your throat, gradually it will move up and it will
start happening with the tongue of your mind.
Do you think that the thoughts which you are having twenty-four hours a day, all the thoughts
which are bothering you, that you have not practiced those thoughts, that you have not repeated
those thoughts?
Now you don't need to work to have those thoughts or fantasies come in your mind; they come
by themselves. Do you think that you have not practiced for that? Ever since we got separated
from the Almighty Lord, no matter in which body we went, whether it was the body of a bird or
animal or any body, we always had the thoughts of that body. We always create a desire for the
worldly things and materials and because of all those desires we have developed, we have
practiced those thoughts, and it is those thoughts which are bothering us now. It is those
fantasies which come in our mind without our making any effort.
Saints have the knowledge of that (condition) and They know what it is that keeps the souls in
this world, and They tell us that at the time of death there is no one in this world whose tasks have all been accomplished. If anyone is able to fulfill ten things, five or ten other things remain
unfulfilled; and at the time of death those unfulfilled tasks and the thoughts of those tasks go
with that soul and in the next lifetime it is those thoughts and fantasies that bother him. So, just
as you do not have to make any effort in having those worldly thoughts and fantasies because
you have practiced them a lot in your previous birth - you don't know how many ages, how many
births, you have practiced them but you don't have to make any efforts in thinking those
thoughts now-in the same way, if you practice the Simran with the same amount of strength and
energy, the time will come when you will not have to make any effort in doing Simran; it will
happen by itself.
These thoughts and desires which we have at the time of death, our intellect for the next lifetime
is determined or decided by them. Our thoughts and desires of the time when we leave the body
have a direct effect on our intellect. Because of those thoughts of the previous lifetime our fate,
our intellect, and our thoughts of the next lifetime are determined. When I was commenting on
Tulsi Sahib's "Ratan Sagar" in Colombia, in one of the Satsangs I told a story that Master
Sawan Singh used to tell, of a potter. Once he was taking his donkeys loaded with clay to the
palace, and he was saying, "Come mothers, come sisters, come friends" - like that. He was
calling the donkeys "mothers" and "sisters" and "friends." So someone asked him, "Why are you
doing that? They are just donkeys!" He said, "I am practicing, because I am a potter and I am in
the habit of speaking very loosely, so I don't want to speak any bad word in the palace; if I speak
any bad word in the palace, the king might put me to death. So I am practicing now so that I
may speak politely in the palace."
So why do the Saints always emphasize doing Simran? Why do They make us do Simran?
They make us do the practice of Simran so that at the time of our death either we should be
doing Simran or we may have the Form of the Master within us. If we are doing Simran, or if we
are remembering the Form of the Master, we will go directly to Him.                     
Saints have the knowledge of how, because of the simran of the world, we come into and we go
back from this world; again and again we take birth in this world because of the simran of the
world. They know the weakness of our mind and how we are stuck in this world, and They also
know that the crop which is destroyed by water can be healed or made whole only with other
water.                                     
They give us the Simran which They have earned Themselves; and behind that Simran given by
the Masters, Their renunciation, Their hard work, Their Charging, is working - and They know
that only by doing the Simran of the Master can we cut the simran or remembrance of the world.
That is why They tell us to do Simran. And as you know, when we do something without making
any effort to have the image or the form of that thing in front of us, that form or that image
comes in front of us  - if we do the Simran given by the Master, without our making any effort of
having the Form of the Master in front of us, we can have it.     
In that Satsang I had talked about the personal experience of Master Sawan Singh, Who used
to say that there was a judge who all his life long gave out decisions and worked as a judge. At
the time of his death, on one side he was about to leave the body, but on the other side he said,
"Objection overruled." Whatever simran he was doing all his life long, at the time of his death he
spoke the words according to that.
I also spoke about my own experience, that once there was a business man in Padampur who
never got married. He always had the desire of getting married, but somehow he never did it.
But he always used to think about it. When he was about to die I went to see him, because at
that time I was practicing Ayurvedic medicine. When I went there and held his arm to feel his
pulse, he thought I was tying a wedding band on his wrist - because in those days in India there
was a  tradition that people tied a piece of thread to the wrist when they are about to get
married. When I held his arm he felt that I was doing that, so he at once said, "Are you tying the
wedding band?" I thought in my mind, "Brother, you are preparing for the journey to the beyond;
how can we get you married now?" So whatever simran he was doing throughout his life, he
remembered that at the time of his death and he spoke out from that. So whatever simran,
whatever remembrance, you do throughout your life, you will remember it at the time of death.



Bhagat Trilochan, whose bani is included in Guru Granth Sahib, has written that those who at
the time of death do the simran or remembrance of women, are born into the body of a
prostitute where they have to indulge with so many men. Nature is not a useless thing.
According to our thoughts, we get those desires in our next lifetime, in our next birth. So those
who remember women at the time of death, they become prostitutes and their death desire is
fulfilled; but in that body they make many more new desires and in order to fulfill those new
desires they have to come back into this world again.
Bhagat Trilochan says that at the time of death those who do simran of their homes, they
become ghosts and come and live there. Those who do the simran of, or remember, wealth,
they come back as snakes.
I have seen many married people who do not have any children. Whenever they give any
donations, or do any good thing, they always have this desire: that they will be rewarded with a
child. So He says that those who die doing the simran of children, they come back in the body of
a pig; you know that pigs have a lot of children, and the sow is always bothered by children
because she gives birth to so many children at one
time.
Finally Bhagat Trilochan Ji says that those who do the Simran of God, those who love God
Almighty, God manifests in their heart, and they are the ones who get liberation. So we should
always do constant Simran; because only by doing Simran can we vacate the nine openings
and open the tenth door. Beyond that we do not need Simran, beyond that we cross the planes
only by climbing on the Shabd.








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