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Religion, Faith, Spirituality / Re: ravidas samudaye ney vakra granth saheb chun lea..
« on: February 05, 2010, 08:43:38 PM »TUM SAB LOGO KO PATA HAI KI AAP KIS TOPIC BAAT KAR RAHE HO ...............
"KI RAVIDAS RELIGION ALAG KYON HUYA AUR ALAG GRANTH KYON BANA "
THIS IS FOR SIKHS :I know sikhon ko yeh baat galat lagi ki ravidas religion ka alag se granth bana . unheion ne bani alag karli ....but if u are true sikh then u would not affect urself with this thought because chahe bani alag ho gai lekin phir bhi its in guru granth sahib . agar kisi ka dil kare toh woh ravidas ka granth padhe aur meaning ko samjhe aur phir guru granth sahib padhe and meanings ko compare . u will find ur answer . and ager social life mein dekhiye toh unke alag hone ka karan bhi sikh hain . yeh jo caste system hai yeh unke alag hone ka karan hai .bachhon shuru se yehi bataya jata hai yeh chamar hai yeh choti caste hai . lekin guru gobind singh ke time koi yeh nahi kehta tha. woh sirf yehi kehte the hum sikh hain yeh sikh hai . agar aap social life mein difference daloge toh maanta mein bhi farak padhega . chamar kinhein kehte hain pata hai app ko . what is the meaning of chamar ? chamar is that person or group of people who make clothe. sabhi cast name are concerend with their occupation . for eg: sunayar sona banata hai use ijjat di jati hai ba=ecause wo sone ka kam karta its costly occupation .... arey chamar hamare kapde aur jute banate the , gahnon se jayada imp thing to cover ur body and to cover ur feet .
KYA AAP APKO PEHLE GURU NANAK KI TEACHINGS YAAD HAIN : GOD IS ONE
BE PROPER IN UR RELIGION BUT ALSO RESPECT OTHER RELIGIONS .
GURU GOBIND NE KYON BANAYA RELIGION : GO TO HISTORY SO HE COULD SAVE ALL FROM MUGHULS .........ONLY FOR THIS HE GATHERED ALL THE PEOPLE AND MAKE THEM SIKH TO FINISH THE DIFFRENTIATION .
toh how they should be treated .........
for ravidas people : m not ravidas and m not a sikh either .......... but i respect both RELIGIONS .......... beacuse i think god is that medium which keep us to the right path of living our life ........aap logon ne kyon banaya i know this reason . and it was according to timing factors . guru gobind made his religion to give people indivual identity . thats wt u people did . u needed ur own identity ......... becuase social life was not so respectful for u ......
it does not matter who we are . we all have to live ......bas tarike alag hain ...yahan tum log bhi vahi kar rahe ho jo hamare ancesters pichle 300 saalon se kar rahe hain , app log advance to ho gaye lekin soch wahi padhi hai differentiation me ...........
guru gobind ke time ki history dekho he did not put any castsisn . he destroyed all castes and made sikh religion . but es ke kitne part ho agye . because human being can't be a god he can't forget differtiation . chahe wo koi bhi hai , sikh , hindu , christian , muslim ...........
this race of differentiation never gona stop unless we start changing aur own minds ..........
I DONT WANA SORRY TO ANYBODY , TRUTH IS TRUTH.
"MEANING IS PRETTY MUCH SAME"
ssa sveta ji,, i agree to every single word u said,,, i agree kai wwaar racism hunda aa and guru gobind singh ji nee sare casts khatam karke sab nu aa hi keha c b last name sab da singh honaa chahida te kudiya da kaur,,,
par je oda de bande hege ta edda de bande v hege jede casts vich believe nai karde te koi discirmination nai kaerde,, nale je apaa ehnu ek family da example leh ke dekhiyaa,, jeeghar vich ik putt nu koi duja phraaa koi kush keh v lenda ta es da aa matlab ta ni hoya b ghar shad deo te dujaa ghar wasa lao,, aftaer all je tusi sikh hege aa taa tusi guru di bani te guru de kahe utte chalnaa,, lokaan de magar thoda laggna,, baki manu aa dharam ch phuut poan wale bandeyan de kamm lagde aa jeda chamar community de phravan nu excited karde rahe duja dharam banaun lai,,
baki mai sirf reply kar reha manu koi prob nai aa b kyo duja dharm banaya,, duniya ta radha sowami wale babeyan nu te sache sode wale babe nu v manndi aa te baut sikh v mannde aa coz of ignorance and illiteracy,, par eh bande te apne aap te depend karda ki os ne guru ji de lad lagnnaa ke lokaaan de
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