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Gup Shup / Re: Anti-Valentines Day
« on: February 08, 2011, 02:11:45 PM »
 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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Shayari / Re: Sat Guru Nanak Pargatia
« on: February 03, 2011, 03:03:13 PM »
:) Dhan Guru Nanak.. boht sohna likheya

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Religion, Faith, Spirituality / Re: Akali Phula Singh ji
« on: January 19, 2011, 02:59:14 PM »
great warrior... wish we cud have more jatherdars like Akali Phula singh ...

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Religion, Faith, Spirituality / Re: CHHOTA GHALLUGHARA
« on: January 10, 2011, 01:41:20 PM »
great post gurpinder bro.. thanx

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Religion, Faith, Spirituality / Re: Guru ji returns after twelve years
« on: December 29, 2010, 03:08:45 PM »
beautiful... thanx for posting

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Religion, Faith, Spirituality / Re: Yoga and Sikhism
« on: December 28, 2010, 04:49:23 PM »
I've heard and read mixed opinions on Yoga in Sikhism.... I kno the Bhajan Yogiji practiced it and preached it but I've also heard and read people that completely condemn it and think its a step towards brahminwaad .. just wanted to know what you guys think.

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Religion, Faith, Spirituality / Yoga and Sikhism
« on: December 28, 2010, 04:43:36 PM »
Sikhism and Yoga by Yuktanand Singh

The Gurus did not condemn Yoga. However, Yoga cannot be counted as a required ingredient in what makes a Sikh. Anyone who disputes this should first examine the history of the Ten Masters, or study the Gurbani, like, "Paath purrhio ur beid beechario..." (Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, p.641-42). Just like hygiene, regular exercise, balanced diet, vitamins, Yoga is an activity that any sensible Sikh should explore and use, while being careful not to become obsessed with the bodily functions. For instance, a vegetarian diet, various simple forms of Pranayama, are very useful, and chastity is essential, to enable one for the higher energy of the Shabad. Sikh Path is liberal and progressive. The Gurus do not reject a healthy lifestyle through proper use of any science. We all know that science is still struggling to prove how accurately Guru Nanak described the universe and biology in his verses, five hundred years ago.

Gurbani supports the concept of Bhakti Yoga, Karma Yoga, Janana Yoga, and Raja Yoga. Bhakti, Seva, and Nam, extensively cited in Gurbani, cover the first three, not as Yoga but as a Gift, a consequence of God-Guru's Mercy. This flows freely from a complete submission to a True Spiritual Master. Yoga is, simply, a philosophical science. Like physical exercise, when used sensibly, it can help build a body and mind that are better prepared to receive, and share the spiritual energy with others. When practiced without submission, just like practice of charity, it can, however subtly, result in a stronger ego and thus keep us farther away from Truth. Raja Yoga is mentioned favorably several times in Gurbani, because of the supreme aim of Raja Yoga: As Patanjali said, "Yoga is removal of mind's noise. Then the observer can return to a view of the Self." At the same time, Gurbani names various limbs and segments of Raja Yoga as not conducive to Truth.

Sikh Panth, as shown by the Ten Masters, leads to the ultimate truth through an inner death, then living abundantly and spiritually through the Guru's command, breathing only whatever the Guru allows. A Sikh, on the Panth, cannot bother with attempts to open some Chakra (energy level) or any other experiences related to different Chakras per se. Doing so, will divert him from a higher aim, Pure Love, which is at the innermost seat of consciousness, or should we say, at the highest energy level.

What is the practical outcome of, the perfect knowledge of Truth, at the Sahasrara Chakra? Is it not Pure Love for the whole creation and a true humility toward all humans? So, instead of taking detours, a Sikh does it naturally, through Love and humility, from the Guru, devotional singing of Gurbani with other devout Sikhs, and by quiet meditation on Gurmantra and Gurbani. The Sikh rises above a preoccupation and identification with the body and mind by "selling" it to the Guru in exchange for a perpetual supply of (spiritual) Naam, engaging in extensive Seva (selfless service), and following the Gurbani to the letter. This is also called Sehej Yoga, or the Natural Yoga.

A Gursikh is not deprived of any esoteric body experiences, if that is his Guru's will. If there is a need, the Inner Guide shows all the required disciplines. They are practiced naturally by following the Guru's command, rather than through a personal attachment with the body. Verbal details of these practices are not intrinsic to the Panth. This is why Gurbani does not dwell on this subject. For some, the direct way is too simple. Many seekers are more inclined toward physical exercises and controlling the energy, or holding a rather intellectually spiritual (Zen, for instance) stance, than Simran in pure love and devotion, until, by God's Grace, they witness Pure Love living in flesh. Still, they should clearly regard all Yoga practices as what they really are, a separate science, not as a requirement on the Sikh Path. Some will enjoy the honey, while others study the honeycomb and practice various approaches to it first.

The Ninth Master, Guru Teg Bahadur said: "The Guru explains this secret: Without Love of God, we cannot be free from fear, and the cycle of misery continues. Pilgrimage, fasting, greatest charities, or Yoga, they are all useless if we forget to praise God in whatever we do, and if we do not resort to rely only on Him for all results. A rare soul gives up both - pride (love of self) and co-dependence of family (love of others) - and then, meditates only on Gobind. Nanak says that such a human is what they call, free of birth and death while still living among us." (Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, p.830-31)
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/essays-on-sikhism/4303-sikhism-and-yoga.html
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=4303

The Ten Masters have regarded meditation as essential. For example, The Tenth Master said: "Meditate on Him whose infinitely forceful light permeates the whole world," and the Fifth Master said, in Sukhmani: "My dear saint friends, when you praise God, do it with an alert and one pointed mind." It cannot be done unless we put some effort to practice it every day as a routine exercise. This verse also signifies that being 'saintly' is not enough. This is why a mantra is given. Gurmantra is a vehicle, a thread, only for meditation. Again, The Tenth Master says: "Meditating on Him, as the Single aim and thought, even for the fraction of a second, has liberated humans from the noose of death."



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Religion, Faith, Spirituality / Re: young Singhni
« on: December 18, 2010, 11:30:27 PM »
very nice post .... Thank you so much for posting it

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Help & Suggestions / Re: Ardas - Who composed it?
« on: December 15, 2010, 12:53:23 PM »
I'm sure u guys know abt Sampat Paath ( I hope i spelled it right) jeda 7 days vich bhog painda .... Nanaksar has its own style which it follows Dhan Dhan Baba Nand Singh ji..

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Help & Suggestions / Re: Ardas - Who composed it?
« on: December 15, 2010, 12:51:13 PM »
been a while Nanaksar wali ardaas sunne nu... but I guess all the gurdwaras under SGPC and DSGPC are pretty much the same and follow the same style of ardaas.. Nanaksar is a lil different othe keertan vi thoda alag tarah da hunda... dont get me wrong Nanaksar di ardaas te keertan dove hi baday pyaar walay hunde ne but its different than other gurdwaras we go it maybe ta kar ke odd feel hunda hona

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Religion, Faith, Spirituality / Re: PROUD to be Punjabi !! WHY???
« on: December 14, 2010, 08:16:17 PM »
titlee not to offend you but just wondering... you'r proud to be a punjabi cuz?? we change easily? in accordance to the circumstances? but is that really a reason to be proud of? proud di gal ta tad hundi je appa ohna circumstances nu chaange kar sakde apne according 

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Religion, Faith, Spirituality / Re: PROUD to be Punjabi !! WHY???
« on: December 14, 2010, 08:11:49 PM »
AGREE.
But maybe we'r too comfortable with the changes .. shayad taahi sadde toh apne sardari ni saambhi gayi... been what 311 yrs and we'r already losing on our sikhii

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Religion, Faith, Spirituality / Re: Ardaaas ki c te ki hai?????
« on: December 14, 2010, 03:45:45 PM »
since we'r talking about Ardaas.. I always wanted to know what Bhagautee means.. edi kayi definitions hegiya.. for hindus it means devi, some people its the Sword.. some people Bhagautee is the light of Waheguru.. or Bhagautee is the Gurmat or will of god

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ager na hote guru gobind singh ta na sikh religion hunda ta fight hundi na ppl marde jo hun mari jande religion de name utte
agar na hote Guru Gobind Singh.. ta tere gal vich janehu na hunda.. tu musalmaaan hona si

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Help & Suggestions / Discussion - Ardas - Should be edited or No?
« on: December 14, 2010, 12:13:04 AM »
bai ji mai te zyadatar ehi dekhya k jad kise ne apna khas kam pura hon te ardass krauni hundi ta pathi singh usde lai alag niji ardas karde ne. Path de bhog to bad hon vali ardas vich eh nam mention nai kite jande. Mai te punjab ch is tra e  dekhya e bt je is tra hunda v e ta v mere khyal e koi khas farak ni painda kyoke sangat vich khra oh 100 banda v apni niji ardas karda e par sarbat da bhla v mangda e so pathi singh kise valo shukrana bhent karada te koi galat ni. Vaise ta ardas shabda di mohtaj ni par fir v apna tredition e te bohte bandya nu ardas ni aundi hundi so oh pathi singh nu hi keh dinde ne k bhai ji mere vlo eh bhent sahib de shukrane vjo lai k ardas kar dyo.

Ardaas shabda di mohtaaj nai cuz Guru Sahb aap sab jaaani jaan ne... Guru Sahb taa pyaar vich kitti Ardaas jhatt bhaag laa dende ne... naale ohna nu pata je kisse ne 100 dollar ditti ne ja 1 cent.. nijji ardaas yaa paath de bhog toh baad is different story ... par aam tussi dekheya hona specially Gurupurab walay dinn theres a list of 100 people jede ardaas vich mention kitti jande ne and mere warge bande nu deeewar naal dho launa painda which i understand is disrespect but it just gets too much...  Ardaas naal tussi boht kuch hasil kar sakde aa par ohde layi Ardaas vich pyaar te Guru te vishwaas hona jaroori a

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Help & Suggestions / Re: Ardas - Who composed it?
« on: December 13, 2010, 03:25:35 PM »
I think the Guruan de naam te Vaar Shri Bhagautee... is taken from the Dasam Granth.... and later on Guru Gobind Singh ji and Guru Granth Sahib ji was added and also it has been edited in accordance to the time .. like "jahaa jahaa khalsa ji sahib,
ttahaa ttahaa rachhiaa riaa-aytt" was added to the Ardaas jado Singh vandhe gaye si.. te ohna nu khatam kar den da order ditta gya si (most likely after Banda Bahadur ji and other 700 singhs along with him were caught)
I think the recent version of the Ardaas has been since the 70s jado Rehat Maryaada tyaar hoyi si .. and I'm sure its the Panj Takkahts that are responsible for any changes that happen now

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Funny Videos / Janam Janam ka Saath
« on: December 12, 2010, 09:23:59 PM »
indian advertising very funny

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Forum Dehshiyat / Rules Regulations / Re: Site Attacked by Chinese
« on: December 08, 2010, 05:18:55 PM »
 :angry: grenade bai keda jamm peya chinnna jinne sadde pj te hath paun di koshish kitti ... deport kara denne aa back to china

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News Khabran / Re: Khalsa Aid & Tigerstyle in Punjab (Focus Punjab)
« on: December 06, 2010, 01:05:40 PM »
lets not change the focus.. Thanx so much grenade bai for putting this up..
Its a great effort by the khalsa aid... we spend soo much money on the Gurdwaras, putting new screens up spending money on chandeliers  jad  ke oh paise da asal estamaal ehna kamma layi hona chaida.. no wonder christianity is spreading in punjab and in other parts of India.

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News Khabran / Re: 1 Year Old Child is Pregnant
« on: December 05, 2010, 05:47:08 PM »
:loll: reference to kalyug was something i heard.. where did i mention about the outside source being involved?
and ur smart cuz???? is it just cuz u repharsed everything that was already stated above in the article  :laugh: "Doctors says it’s a unique case for this world! Medical Science Report says : “When the mother of this child was pregnant, she had 2 fetuses inside her. But one of the fetus grew inside the other, this why this girl was born with the other fetus inside her womb"

 english sohni aa bai eddi :loll: she rephrased it well ... smart aa smart aa :cooll:

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