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Question Regarding Guru Nanak Dev ji & Kaaba
« on: May 05, 2011, 06:09:08 PM »
Question Regarding Guru Nanak & Kaaba
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Question Regarding Guru Nanak Dev ji & Kaaba
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Re: Question Regarding Guru Nanak Dev ji & Kaaba
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2011, 06:16:03 PM »
video not posting  :waitin:

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Re: Question Regarding Guru Nanak Dev ji & Kaaba
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2011, 07:44:20 PM »
video not posting  :waitin:

fixed, next time just post the link
no need for the flash tag.

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Re: Question Regarding Guru Nanak Dev ji & Kaaba
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2011, 08:54:33 PM »
Hazrat Guru Baba Nanak - Ahmadiyya

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Re: Question Regarding Guru Nanak Dev ji & Kaaba
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2011, 08:55:17 PM »
Question Regarding Guru Nanak & Kaaba



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Re: Question Regarding Guru Nanak Dev ji & Kaaba
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2011, 09:50:33 PM »
GuruNanak Devji did visit Mecca (place where Kabba is ).
and its mentioned in  Bhai Gurdas, Varaan, Var 1, Pauri 32.
Mecca is the Muslim pilgrimage which is open to Muslims only. In order to gain entry at Kaaba, Mecca, to preach the divine doctrines Guru Nanak Dev had to dress up like a Muslim priest.
So there is no question about it!!!


Vaar 1 Pauri 32 At Mecca
ਬਾਬਾ ਫਿਰਿ ਮੱਕੇ ਗਇਆ ਨੀਲ ਬਸਤ੍ਰ ਧਾਰੇ ਬਨਵਾਰੀ । ਆਸਾ ਹਥਿ ਕਿਤਾਬ ਕਛਿ ਕੂਜਾ ਬਾਂਗ ਮੁਸੱਲਾ ਧਾਰੀ ।
ਬੈਠਾ ਜਾਇ ਮਸੀਤ ਵਿਚਿ ਜਿਥੈ ਹਾਜੀ ਹਜਿ ਗੁਜਾਰੀ । ਜਾ ਬਾਬਾ ਸੁਤਾ ਰਾਤਿ ਨੋ ਵਲਿ ਮਹਰਾਬੇ ਪਾਇ ਪਸਾਰੀ ।
ਜੀਵਣਿ ਮਾਰੀ ਲਤਿ ਦੀ ਕੇਹੜਾ ਸੁਤਾ ਕੁਫਰ ਕੁਫਾਰੀ । ਲਤਾ ਵਲਿ ਖੁਦਾਇ ਦੇ ਕਿਉ ਕਰਿ ਪਇਆ ਹੋਇ ਬਜਿਗਾਰੀ ।
ਟੰਗੋਂ ਪਕੜਿ ਘਸੀਟਿਆ ਫਿਰਿਆ ਮੱਕਾ ਕਲਾ ਦਿਖਾਰੀ ।
ਹੋਇ ਹੈਰਾਨੁ ਕਰੇਨਿ ਜੁਹਾਰੀ ॥੩੨॥

TRANSLATION
Donning blue attire then Baba Nanak went to Mecca.
He held staff in his hand, pressed a book under his armpit, caught hold of a metal pot and mattress.
Now he sat in a mosque where the pilgrms (hajis) had gathered.
When Baba (Nanak) slept in the night spreading his legs towards the alcove of mosque at Kaba,
the qazi named Jivan kicked him and asked who was this infidel enacting blasphemy.
Why this sinner is sleeping his legs spread towards God, Khuda.
Catching hold of the legs he lynched (Baba Nanak) and lo and behold the miracle, the whole of Mecca seemed to be revolving.
All got surprised and they all bowed.

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Re: Question Regarding Guru Nanak Dev ji & Kaaba
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2011, 02:25:10 PM »
Ive read bhai Gurdaas ji diya vaars.. and believe every word of it
im just surprised ke othe jeda Singh si he couldnt argue ..
Is it mentioned anywhere in the Guru Granth Sahib?.. cuz eh saariya sakhiya bhai Baala ji ne Guru Angad Dev ji nu sunaiya san so i wonder

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Re: Question Regarding Guru Nanak Dev ji & Kaaba
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2011, 07:23:30 PM »
No, I don't think Bhai Gurdasji's Varran were inserted into Guru Granth Sahibji.. ..
But Bhai Gurdasji is the first one who wrote down first copy of Aadh Granth Sahib in his own hand writing under Guru Arjan Devji's supervision. Guru Arjan Devji really liked Bhai Gurdasji's  personal writings and asked him to insert his writing into Guru Granth Sahibji but Bhai Gurdasji replied "“How can the master and servant sit beside each other on the same platform ?”

rest, I think when Guru Nanak Devji revolved Kabba in all of the directions this means he told this world that God is present everywhere and in all directions so Any religion should be happy to know that their Religious place is so great , is present everywhere..




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Re: Question Regarding Guru Nanak Dev ji & Kaaba
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2011, 11:47:26 AM »
ur right khushi ji... also it wouldnt be the first time this happened.. Bhagat Namdev ne vi ta mandirr firra ditta si.. I guess its just hard for the muslims to digest that ohna da Macca Kaaba ferr gya si... but I was wondering if anyone knows abt any physical proofs (tho I dont need em) so we could present those points to clear out their doubts 

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Re: Question Regarding Guru Nanak Dev ji & Kaaba
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2011, 12:20:57 PM »
Well i am aware about Gurudwara sahib in Mecca.
Gurdwara Pehli Patshahi (Gurdwara of the first Master) at Bandar-e-Bushehr the main port on the Iranian coast located across the Persian Gulf from present day Al Kuwayt, (28.9184° N 50.8382° E), was a popular stopping point for Muslim Pilgrims on the yearly Hajj in the days of Guru Nanak. Guru Nanak Sahib stopped over at this port during his visit to Mecca (Saudi Arabia) as a 'Hajji' in 1519-20. Before rounding Arabia and sailing up the Red Sea to Jiddah (lit; Grandmother in Arabic) a reference to Eve or Hawwa who is said to have landed there after her fall from Heaven.

and i think, in this Gurudwara sahib they still have Guru Nanak Devji's Slippers ( Khadayu) .. baki  this even is mentioned in Bhai Gurdas ji Varran so enough evidence for us.
Well, i will try to research more about this Gurudwara sahib..

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Re: Question Regarding Guru Nanak Dev ji & Kaaba
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2011, 01:06:42 PM »
Kudrat ji jado  Bhai Bala ji ne aa sariya sakhiya varnan kittiya san Guru Angad Dev ji  wrote them down... I wonder if that great book is still in the possession of sikhs

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Re: Question Regarding Guru Nanak Dev ji & Kaaba
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2011, 07:08:16 PM »
Kudrat ji jado  Bhai Bala ji ne aa sariya sakhiya varnan kittiya san Guru Angad Dev ji  wrote them down... I wonder if that great book is still in the possession of sikhs



Naah, i searched about it.. original version is extinct now.. all we have are copies of original with the name called " Bhai Bala Janamsakhi"... But i found that many sikh historians are augmenting about even existence of Bhai balaji because his name is never mentioned in Bhai Gurdasji's Vaaran. but i found pictures of Bhai Balaji's Samadh in Gurudwara Tapiana Sahib,Amritsar.





Nonetheless, this Sakhis still play very important role in our Sikh history,, nalle this teaches us real truth about God's existence everyewhere so whats wrong with that.. we dont need any evidence or authenticity for that.

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Re: Question Regarding Guru Nanak Dev ji & Kaaba
« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2011, 11:04:36 PM »
bhai gurdas ji dia vara guru granth sahib vich darj nai par inha di ini importance hai k inha nu 'gurbani di kunji' kiha janda e . Gurbani de dhoonge artha nu samjhan te kai mahatvpuran ghatnava di jankari bhai gurdas ji dia vara vicho mildi e.

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Re: Question Regarding Guru Nanak Dev ji & Kaaba
« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2011, 11:06:05 PM »
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Re: Question Regarding Guru Nanak Dev ji & Kaaba
« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2011, 03:09:47 PM »
Nice post mamu!

 

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