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How Do You Follow Religion?
« on: September 04, 2010, 12:27:15 PM »
GURU NANAK DEV JI SAID

Jo to prem khelan ka chao
Sir dhar talee galee meree ao

if you want to play the game of love,
bring your head to me on the palm of your hand. (the self has to die)

GURU ARJUN DEV JI SAID

pilla maran kabool, jeevan kee cchaad aas
ho-e sabana kee renka tao ao hamaree paas

the first rule of dying is to give up all the hope's of life
become the dust of everyone then come to me.

Some people do ardas and ask Vaahi-guroo Jee for spiritual and worldy gifts, then wonder why they didn't get anything. Disillusioned they lose faith in God! But we suffer from

'seva thoree mangan botha'
little seva but ask alot'.

Who should we serve? Guru Gobind Singh ji said if you want to please me then serve the Khalsa for nothing pleases me more.

Hence, do seva of the Khalsa and become the dust of their feet. Then go to Guru Granth Sahib ji and the Punj Pyare with your head(ego) in your hand. Go down on one knee and with cupped hands beg for amrit naam. Do naam simran day and night, then do ardas with humility and love and see if Vaahi-Guroo jee doesn't fill you with all the blessings.

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How Do You Follow Religion?
« on: September 04, 2010, 12:27:15 PM »

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Re: How Do You Follow Religion?
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2010, 04:39:29 PM »
 very nice :)

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Re: How Do You Follow Religion?
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2010, 04:46:59 PM »
thnk you :)

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Re: How Do You Follow Religion?
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2010, 12:00:51 AM »
religion :-
there are many realigions on earth , like in hinduism also lord krishan says come to me by serve me by let all ur wishes nd tens .gita chapter 18 , 33 para :-
sampuran dhrama te sampuran kartwya karma nu mere ch tyag tu keval ik meinu sarbshaktiman , sarbadhar , parmeshwar de he shramn ch aajja , mein teinu har ik paap to mukat kar dayuga te shok matt kar.

nd lord jesus says :-in holy bible in new testaments in bookk of matthew nd luke nd mark at many times they say:- come to me i give u peace nd tht things which u never get .

also sai baba say:- described sai scharitra :- they say :- come to me , i take every tens and every trouble of u on me , nd give u peace nd everything wht u want .

hazrat muhamda say:- come to me i show u tht path by which u get peace , heaven nd u can meet great god .

lord nank ji da above describe ho he gya .


so there are many shapes of god tht come on earth time to time nd say same thing .
so true religion by god is one tht is of humanity nd full good thinking nd gud works,

muslims sikh etc are not religion they get these name by humans not by god .

god come on earth in diff shapes nd ask same thing . so the moral of all when combines thts the true religions.


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Re: How Do You Follow Religion?
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2010, 12:15:30 AM »
there is not shape of god...and god never born never dies..and i dont believe any1 of them is GOD..and i dont think god comes in human form to earth to teach lesson..so keep ur phiplosphy of god with u..As a sikh i respect other religion but i dont believe in any of them..
IF my guru said...PRATHAM GANESHE MAIN NI MANAO..KRISHEN BHISEHN KAB HUN NA TIHAO..

SO I DONT WASTE MY TIME TO CONFIRM THIS..AND TRY TO FIND CONNECTION OF KRISHEN WITH SIKHISM AS U DOES..LIKE BEFORE U SAID OUT OF ALL BHAGATS 9 OF THEM WERE KRISHEN FOLLLOWERS..FOR ME  SGGS IS SUPREME


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Re: How Do You Follow Religion?
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2010, 12:46:15 AM »
 mala gauri bani bhagat namdev ji ki

 ik om kar satguru parshad !!

dhan dhan o ram ben bajje !! madhur madhur dhuni anhatt ghaje !!
dhan dhan megha romawali !! dhan dhan krishan ode kambli !!
dhandhan tu mata devki !! jeh greh ramiyiya kamlapatti!!
dhan dhan ban kahnd  brindaban !! jeh khele shri narayna !!
ben bajje godan chare!! name ka swami anad kare!!


nw mr optimus see nd read it .

chalo pehli lien ch kuch khas nai krishan de rab de avtar hon da saboot but nichliya sariya lines taan pad lo akha khol ke .

oh kambli dhan aa jisnu krishan ne odiya , oh mata devki dhan aaa jisdi khukho oh hoye , nw devki de kuhku hun koi hor ta hoya nai c i think ,
te dhan dhan ne brindaban de jungle jithe narayan khede hun bridaban hor taa koi rab da avtar aakke khedeya nai , murli bjawe means bansuri bajunde ne hor kon bjaunda murli krishan bina rab de avtars cho ?????? giyan chrawe eh v do ne he chariyiyan guru nank dev ji na ja fer krishan ji ne but ethe oh krishan de gal kar rahe cz uprli sari lines krishan ji te ne te oh gyuan chraun jande c, nd last line ch likhiya ki namme da swami es tra choj karke annd magan rehnda ,,, hun kio jihe choj oh likh he dete ki bansuri waja ke gyuyan chra ke , brindaban de jungla ch khed ke etc , hun dimag hoya taa jroor use kariyo . kkk.

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Re: How Do You Follow Religion?
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2010, 12:51:53 AM »
Tussi kisse da chaj de post nu shad ni sakde? Harek Kitte larayee jahi karde rehnde?

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Re: How Do You Follow Religion?
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2010, 01:00:12 AM »
rag mali gura ( eh v namdev ji da he aaa)
mere baap madho tu dhan keso sabliyo bithulaye !!
kar dhare chakar bekunth te aye gaj hasti ke pran udhariyle!!
duhsasan ki sbha dropadi ambar let ubarilyle!!
gotam naar ahiliya tari pavan ketak tariyle!!
esa adham ajat namdeo tao sharnagat ayiyle !!


read it more :- es ch bhagwan alag alag roop dhar ke aye hun namdev v jhoot bolde ne es ch taan belive he nai ho sakda .

meaning:-
namdev ji kehnde mere pite mayiya patti sawal bithul ji .

bithul kon ??? sabal kon dowe sanket krishan wal saaf ne .
bithul rab da naam kuch katak lok kehde but eh ajj v pandar pur shri namdev ji de jnam sthal te ohna de pind mandir c krishan bhagwan da jis murti nu bithul kia janda c te hun v bahut manta te oh murti v sabli c , chalo shado agge pado .

fer kehnde tusi gajraj jo pani ch dub rea c usnu bcahun layi sudarshan chakkar dhar karke ki magarmach da gla katt usnu bchaya hun rab kise roop ch aya nirakar nai betha rea kkk . fer dropadi de laj bachai sari bhari sbha ch krishan roop ch oh koi nirakar roop nai c , gotam nar ahiliya v tari jisnu gotam da shrap c te oh pathar ban ge c te jad ram avatar hoye taan ohna da peer lagiya te oh bapis apne roop ch ayi te sansar to tar gayi ,,

namdev ji ehna nu saaf saaf lafja ch bhagwan das rahe nw eh v jhoot taa nai . oh last ch kehnde hey prabhu namdev tere shran aya este v mehar karo ..

eh sare choj ohna ne eh nai kia ki koi sadhu sdant ne kitte , oh kehnde rab ne kitte sare choj , hun nirakar ch tan nai karke gya , oh sakar roop ch aya te sakar roop uprla krishan wala pehra saaf das he rea . hope so madi jihi sumaat mili howe.

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Re: How Do You Follow Religion?
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2010, 01:09:56 AM »
nd one more rehraas te asa de vaar ch shabd padiya janda :- eh namdev ji da he hai eh v .

har jug jug bhagt upaya peej rakhda aya ram raje harnaksh dusht har mariya prehlad tarya.

hun its means bhagt time to time aunde rab ohna de peej rakhda like prehlad de peo harnaksh nu kisne mariya rab ne nirakar roop ch nai ji oh narsingh ban ke aya , fer noha naal padiya , so god take shapes time to time .

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Re: How Do You Follow Religion?
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2010, 01:21:42 AM »
Tussi kisse da chaj de post nu shad ni sakde? Harek Kitte larayee jahi karde rehnde?

whts ur mean sis?

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Re: How Do You Follow Religion?
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2010, 01:52:26 AM »
optimus tusi jo kia guru gobind singh ji de fer eh line v par leo :-
see akal ustat by shri guru gobind singh ji maharaj te pera 8!18!!

kahu geet ke gwaiya , kaho bean ke bajayiya ,
kahu nert ke nachiya kahu nar ko akar ho,
kahu bead bani , kahu kok khani,
kaho raja kahu rani , kahu naar ke prakar ho,
kahu bean ke bajayiya kahu dhean ke chariya ,
kahu lakhan lawaiya kahu sunder kumar ho ,
sudhta ki shan ho , santan ke pran ho .



means :- hey parm pita pramatma , tusi sundser geeta nu gaun wale ho , kitte bina bjaun wale ho , kitte nach karan wale ho , kitte app veda di bani ho , kitte kok de katha ho , kaitte raja ho , kitte rani ho te kitte estri roop ho , kitte tusi bina bjaun wale ho , kitte gayiyan chrun wale krishan roop ho , kitte makhan de len wale  te kitte bade roop rajkumar ho ,tusi pavitarta de shoba ho te sant jna de pran ho .

eh taan guru sahib ne kia hun esto v jyada kuch chaeda ?

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Re: How Do You Follow Religion?
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2010, 01:55:09 AM »
whts ur mean sis?

I mean ess topic wich vi behas?

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Re: How Do You Follow Religion?
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2010, 05:00:51 AM »
baki teria galan da jawab fer daunga main..but eh line par ke koi keh sakda a..ke guru ji ki kehnde pae a..oh fer ohi akalpurakh nu kehnde pae a..ki jo kuch vi a sab tu hi karoon wala he..so hun tu jis marji tarike nal vekh ehnu..i dont care..and duji gal..jina time tu eh critics laban nu landi a..ohde to adha time SGGS di pehli pouri samjan vich lawe ta shayad tenu aap hi kuch samaj a jawe..
optimus tusi jo kia guru gobind singh ji de fer eh line v par leo :-
see akal ustat by shri guru gobind singh ji maharaj te pera 8!18!!

kahu geet ke gwaiya , kaho bean ke bajayiya ,
kahu nert ke nachiya kahu nar ko akar ho,
kahu bead bani , kahu kok khani,
kaho raja kahu rani , kahu naar ke prakar ho,
kahu bean ke bajayiya kahu dhean ke chariya ,
kahu lakhan lawaiya kahu sunder kumar ho ,
sudhta ki shan ho , santan ke pran ho .



means :- hey parm pita pramatma , tusi sundser geeta nu gaun wale ho , kitte bina bjaun wale ho , kitte nach karan wale ho , kitte app veda di bani ho , kitte kok de katha ho , kaitte raja ho , kitte rani ho te kitte estri roop ho , kitte tusi bina bjaun wale ho , kitte gayiyan chrun wale krishan roop ho , kitte makhan de len wale  te kitte bade roop rajkumar ho ,tusi pavitarta de shoba ho te sant jna de pran ho .

eh taan guru sahib ne kia hun esto v jyada kuch chaeda ?

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Re: How Do You Follow Religion?
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2010, 05:59:52 AM »
yr e ki ho reha kyon jiddi jane o

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Re: How Do You Follow Religion?
« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2010, 06:26:49 AM »
baki teria galan da jawab fer daunga main..but eh line par ke koi keh sakda a..ke guru ji ki kehnde pae a..oh fer ohi akalpurakh nu kehnde pae a..ki jo kuch vi a sab tu hi karoon wala he..so hun tu jis marji tarike nal vekh ehnu..i dont care..and duji gal..jina time tu eh critics laban nu landi a..ohde to adha time SGGS di pehli pouri samjan vich lawe ta shayad tenu aap hi kuch samaj a jawe..

mr. ji tusi apni pehle post wekho us ch likhiya rab bande de roop ch nai aa sakda ,
usda ans kita mein mein eh nai kia oh krishan ji nu keh rahe , oh es ch rab nu keh rahe ki tere kine roop okkkk read it again .

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Re: How Do You Follow Religion?
« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2010, 06:30:43 AM »
or jehre upper shbad ne na ehna da v ans kar diyo ki eh jhoot ne ki sach ?????? nd es eh dasiya rab kina kina roops ch firda hun syaneya nu appe smaj aa jani badhu dimag khpai da ki kar sakde .

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Re: How Do You Follow Religion?
« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2010, 09:46:04 AM »
There is no question that Krishna ji is mentioned hundreds times in Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji, because Krishna's story is very famous, and the Guru's employed examples to preach about God. There is no doubt people saw God in Krishna and so did the Guru's see God in God's saints, like Krishna.

Ratanjot, please don't say God reincarnated in Krishna's body. This is against God's characteristics. God is formless, he is omnipresent, he's everywhere at all times. He is not limited to one body form, as that of Krishna.

I am not trying to insult the great Krishna ji. I am nothing, I am a nobody, but I respect God (and hold him true to what my small brain can know). I also want to see God in all, Krishna, Guru Nanak, Mohammed, Christ, all the saints. God does not come into life forms (reincarnate), but he definitely is inside Krishna, he's inside the milk-maids (gopiyan), he's inside the Gurus.

SGGS verse which states that God does not reincarnate:
Awie n jweI pRBu ikrpwlw ]
aae n jaaee prabh kirapaalaa ||
God is compassionate; He does not come or go in reincarnation.


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Re: How Do You Follow Religion?
« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2010, 09:54:10 AM »
There is no question that Krishna ji is mentioned hundreds times in Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji, because Krishna's story is very famous, and the Guru's employed examples to preach about God. There is no doubt people saw God in Krishna and so did the Guru's see God in God's saints, like Krishna.

Ratanjot, please don't say God reincarnated in Krishna's body. This is against God's characteristics. God is formless, he is omnipresent, he's everywhere at all times. He is not limited to one body form, as that of Krishna.

I am not trying to insult the great Krishna ji. I am nothing, I am a nobody, but I respect God (and hold him true to what my small brain can know). I also want to see God in all, Krishna, Guru Nanak, Mohammed, Christ, all the saints. God does not come into life forms (reincarnate), but he definitely is inside Krishna, he's inside the milk-maids (gopiyan), he's inside the Gurus.

SGGS verse which states that God does not reincarnate:
Awie n jweI pRBu ikrpwlw ]
aae n jaaee prabh kirapaalaa ||
God is compassionate; He does not come or go in reincarnation.


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Sorry to hurt anybody's feelings.

i don't say u worng u r rite , m not in krishna favor , m favour in the line tht god come on earth in diff shapes time to time nd u can get some this type of text by read very holy guru granth sahib , hope u do it . thx.

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Re: How Do You Follow Religion?
« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2010, 10:16:51 AM »
Ratanjot, you are probably referring to your previous post about "jug jug bhagat upaya, pej rakhda aaya ram raje".

nd one more rehraas te asa de vaar ch shabd padiya janda :- eh namdev ji da he hai eh v .

har jug jug bhagt upaya peej rakhda aya ram raje harnaksh dusht har mariya prehlad tarya.

hun its means bhagt time to time aunde rab ohna de peej rakhda like prehlad de peo harnaksh nu kisne mariya rab ne nirakar roop ch nai ji oh narsingh ban ke aya , fer noha naal padiya , so god take shapes time to time .

All that quote means is Bhagats are created from time to time when the need exists. Just like Krishna, Guru Nanak, Prehlad, etc. To save God's own saints, God doesn't need to reincarnate as a person to do it. God is permeating/pervading everywhere.

I really respect all your knowledge about religion and I loved how you spent the time to explain your points in different ways. All I'm doing is trying to add my view to your discussion, so don't feel bad.

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Re: How Do You Follow Religion?
« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2010, 10:36:45 AM »
Ratanjot, you are probably referring to your previous post about "jug jug bhagat upaya, pej rakhda aaya ram raje".



srry to say again but eho taan gal aa na har jug jug bhagt upaya pejj rakhda aya ram raje , harnakash dusht har mariya prehlad traya ..

eh prehlad nu kiwe bchaya ???

eh v line wekh lao -

bhagt heth mariyo harnkash narsingh roop deh dhariyo .


es ch saaf saaf [pta ki rab ne roop dhariya narsingh da , hmmm baki hun mere ch hor power nai explain karan de hope so net time jad ggs read kitte taan mein es naal ki god come on earth time to time waleyav likh ek rakhiniya nd tuahnu sab nu dasniya chalo filhaal ehna he bahut aaaa. baki apni apni smaj koi rab nu kiwe mnaunda koi kiwe .

well thx.

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Re: How Do You Follow Religion?
« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2010, 10:47:35 AM »
srry to say again but eho taan gal aa na har jug jug bhagt upaya pejj rakhda aya ram raje , harnakash dusht har mariya prehlad traya ..

eh prehlad nu kiwe bchaya ???

eh v line wekh lao -

bhagt heth mariyo harnkash narsingh roop deh dhariyo .


es ch saaf saaf [pta ki rab ne roop dhariya narsingh da , hmmm baki hun mere ch hor power nai explain karan de hope so net time jad ggs read kitte taan mein es naal ki god come on earth time to time waleyav likh ek rakhiniya nd tuahnu sab nu dasniya chalo filhaal ehna he bahut aaaa. baki apni apni smaj koi rab nu kiwe mnaunda koi kiwe .

well thx.

Es sab varey ik hor sakhi hegi. Namdev ji de pita ji kitey bahar chale jande, te oh Namdev ji nu kehnde ke Namdev hi hun thakur ("bhagwan di murti") nu dudh peelavega. Te jad Namdev apni zidd te arhda ke dudh peelaye bina oh nahi jayega, fer keha janda ke rabb nu khud akey oh dudh peena peya si, kionki os da bhagat sthir si (apne rab layi) pyar vich.

So mein dekh sakda asi kes gal te arh rahe aa. Gal aa ke rab ne joon vich janam nahi leya (kionki rab te ajooni hai), balke rab ne os samey apne bhagat di laaj rakhi, te jo karna peya kareya. Two different things.

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Re: How Do You Follow Religion?
« Reply #21 on: September 06, 2010, 10:54:43 AM »
Es sab varey ik hor sakhi hegi. Namdev ji de pita ji kitey bahar chale jande, te oh Namdev ji nu kehnde ke Namdev hi hun thakur ("bhagwan di murti") nu dudh peelavega. Te jad Namdev apni zidd te arhda ke dudh peelaye bina oh nahi jayega, fer keha janda ke rabb nu khud akey oh dudh peena peya si, kionki os da bhagat sthir si (apne rab layi) pyar vich.

So mein dekh sakda asi kes gal te arh rahe aa. Gal aa ke rab ne joon vich janam nahi leya (kionki rab te ajooni hai), balke rab ne os samey apne bhagat di laaj rakhi, te jo karna peya kareya. Two different things.

oh god ohi ta namdev ji fer god kisnu keh rahe ??? mein pehla shbad likhiya namdev ji da jis ch oh likh rahe devki de kokh dhan aaaa????? ki meaning aa esda ???? read full shbad .

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Re: How Do You Follow Religion?
« Reply #22 on: September 06, 2010, 10:58:18 AM »
dhan dhan o ram ben bajje !! madhur madhur dhuni anhatt ghaje !!
dhan dhan megha romawali !! dhan dhan krishan ode kambli !!
dhandhan tu mata devki !! jeh greh ramiyiya kamlapatti!!
dhan dhan ban kahnd  brindaban !! jeh khele shri narayna !!
ben bajje godan chare!! name ka swami anad kare!!


nw mr optimus see nd read it .

chalo pehli lien ch kuch khas nai krishan de rab de avtar hon da saboot but nichliya sariya lines taan pad lo akha khol ke .

oh kambli dhan aa jisnu krishan ne odiya , oh mata devki dhan aaa jisdi khukho oh hoye , nw devki de kuhku hun koi hor ta hoya nai c i think ,
te dhan dhan ne brindaban de jungle jithe narayan khede hun bridaban hor taa koi rab da avtar aakke khedeya nai , murli bjawe means bansuri bajunde ne hor kon bjaunda murli krishan bina rab de avtars cho ?????? giyan chrawe eh v do ne he chariyiyan guru nank dev ji na ja fer krishan ji ne but ethe oh krishan de gal kar rahe cz uprli sari lines krishan ji te ne te oh gyuan chraun jande c, nd last line ch likhiya ki namme da swami es tra choj karke annd magan rehnda ,,, hun kio jihe choj oh likh he dete ki bansuri waja ke gyuyan chra ke , brindaban de jungla ch khed ke etc ,


oh app xplain kar rahe apni bani ch .....

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Re: How Do You Follow Religion?
« Reply #23 on: September 06, 2010, 11:33:08 PM »
"Satyug te mainyo chalyo bal bavan bhaiyo.
Trete te maniyo Ram raghuvansh kahaiyo.
Duapar Krishan murar kans kritarath kiyo,
 ugrasen ko raaj abhay bhagtey jan diyo.
Kaljug pramaan Nanak Guru Angad Amar kahaiyo,
Shri Guru Raaj Abichal Atal Aad Purakh furmaiyo." Guru Granth Sahib.


hun meinu nai lagda esto jyada kuch kehan sun de lor aaa .

naal rab nu koi sja dete aa tusi ki oh hamesha nirakar roop ch he raho , he is very great powerfull from all the universe , oh jo ji ch ayu karo , te ki nai kar sakda ?????????? ki nai kar sakda oh ????? ik uni nai croran uni usde under chalde paye ne .. te oh nirakar roopn ho ke v akar wala nai ban sakda . koi ban laya tusi uste es glon ???

ik gal hor guru granth sahib dhyan naal pariyo next time . end te eho gal aundi ki haan rab nirakar hai nirakar reahu jo usnu jis roop ch poojda use roop ch oh pargat hunda per oh nirakar ho ke v sab to powerfull ke v sakar roop ch aunda eh banio v explain kardi next time read it carefully , oh nirakar hai rahuga per oh ajuni ho ke sakar roop lenda .

bhagat namdev ji di bani nd bhagat surdas ji de bani es nu changi tra explain kardi aaaaa nd very holy guru granth sahib v esnu changi tra explain karde je akha khol ke paro te samjo ...

hope god give u all sumatttt .

this is my last reply nw , i don't care any other wht say about me but i write only tht wht the gurus says in holy guru granth sahib ... eh taa hun sab pad ke pta he lag jana dasan de meinu v nai lagda meinu lor aaaa.

hun jisne samjna hoyu ehne ch samj laoga well .

god bless us all nd we r his/her children , he take care of us nd love us so much.
all realigions nd all human are equal in his eye. he is great , he is lord of lords , he is god of god , no one can define wht he is .

nw hope u ah shbad sab nu sumaat dewega .

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Re: How Do You Follow Religion?
« Reply #24 on: September 07, 2010, 01:32:43 AM »
To understand great thoughts and great philosphy..u need great mind..which i think u ratan dont have..u just take few random line..but u never try to read few line above that line and below that line..then it makes whole new meaning...

So let’s take the latest attack on Sikhism which this person so proudly and egotistical boasts that God in Sikhism is actually Krishna. There is actually a whole website  (http://www.truesikhism.com) dedicated to derail Sikh masses into believing the above mentioned ideology. Check out this website which clearly shows that the propaganda is emerging directly from India where the Registrar is an Indian company. Who Is
They also have another domain name http://www.granthsahib.org which also is privately protected and has the same registrar. Who Is

It’s amazing that people/organizations like these totally ignore the Mool-Mantar and translate one short line of Baani into their own confused ideology. The reason for people or organization to do such things is up for grabs ( or a subject on its on lol). So when we read “Ajooni”, what does that mean? A Lord without Birth! Apparently that isn’t Krishan. When Bhagat Nam Dev ji talks about Krishna, notice that he emphasizes Krishan’s form such as “Dark Skinned”. He is emphasizing that a so called “low caste” can also be holy and they could also reach God.  Obviously Bhagat Nam Dev ji was beaten by Brahmins for being a low-caste and daring to enter a temple. That’s the message which is supposed to be taken. In Sikhism, there is no “scared” language. Therefore Sikhism takes God in many names. We also call God Allah.

But let’s look at some direct quotes in SGGS.
SGGS Page 727 Bhagat Kabir Ji
ਬੇਦ ਕਤੇਬ ਇਫਤਰਾ ਭਾਈ ਦਿਲ ਕਾ ਫਿਕਰੁ ਨ ਜਾਇ ॥
बेद कतेब इफतरा भाई दिल का फिकरु न जाइ ॥
Beḏ kaṯeb ifṯarā bẖā▫ī ḏil kā fikar na jā▫e.
The Vedas and the Scriptures are only make-believe, O Siblings of Destiny; they do not relieve the anxiety of the heart.
ਟੁਕੁ ਦਮੁ ਕਰਾਰੀ ਜਉ ਕਰਹੁ ਹਾਜਿਰ ਹਜੂਰਿ ਖੁਦਾਇ ॥੧॥
टुकु दमु करारी जउ करहु हाजिर हजूरि खुदाइ ॥१॥
Tuk ḏam karārī ja▫o karahu hājir hajūr kẖuḏā▫e. ||1||
If you will only center yourself on the Lord, even for just a breath, then you shall see the Lord face-to-face, present before you. ||1||
ਬੰਦੇ ਖੋਜੁ ਦਿਲ ਹਰ ਰੋਜ ਨਾ ਫਿਰੁ ਪਰੇਸਾਨੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥
बंदे खोजु दिल हर रोज ना फिरु परेसानी माहि ॥
Banḏe kẖoj ḏil har roj nā fir paresānī māhi.
O human being, search your own heart every day, and do not wander around in confusion.
ਇਹ ਜੁ ਦੁਨੀਆ ਸਿਹਰੁ ਮੇਲਾ ਦਸਤਗੀਰੀ ਨਾਹਿ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
इह जु दुनीआ सिहरु मेला दसतगीरी नाहि ॥१॥ रहाउ ॥
Ih jo ḏunī▫ā sihar melā ḏasaṯgīrī nāhi. ||1|| rahā▫o.
This world is just a magic-show; no one will be holding your hand. ||1||Pause||
ਦਰੋਗੁ ਪੜਿ ਪੜਿ ਖੁਸੀ ਹੋਇ ਬੇਖਬਰ ਬਾਦੁ ਬਕਾਹਿ ॥
दरोगु पड़ि पड़ि खुसी होइ बेखबर बादु बकाहि ॥
Ḏarog paṛ paṛ kẖusī ho▫e bekẖabar bāḏ bakāhi.
Reading and studying falsehood, people are happy; in their ignorance, they speak nonsense.
ਹਕੁ ਸਚੁ ਖਾਲਕੁ ਖਲਕ ਮਿਆਨੇ ਸਿਆਮ ਮੂਰਤਿ ਨਾਹਿ ॥੨॥
हकु सचु खालकु खलक मिआने सिआम मूरति नाहि ॥२॥
Hak sacẖ kẖālak kẖalak mi▫āne si▫ām mūraṯ nāhi. ||2||
The True Creator Lord is diffused into His creation; He is not just the dark-skinned Krishna of legends. ||2||



Wandering through 8.4 million incarnations, Krishna's father Nand was totally exhausted.
Because of his devotion, Krishna was incarnated in his home; how great was the good fortune of this poor man! ||1||
You say that Krishna was Nand's son, but whose son was Nand himself?
When there was no earth or ether or the ten directions, where was this Nand then? ||1||Pause||
He does not fall into misfortune, and He does not take birth; His Name is the Immaculate Lord.
Kabeer's Lord is such a Lord and Master, who has no mother or father. ||2||19||70|| SGGS 338-39 Bhagat Kabir Ji.

"I do not accept Ganesha as important. I do not meditate on Krishna, neither on Vishnu. I do not hear them and do not recognize them. My love is with the Lotus feet of God. He is my protector, the Supreme Lord. I am dust of his Lotus feet." (Guru Gobind Singh, Krishna Avatar)

"I have read all the Vedas, but my mind's separation from God is not removed and the five demons of my house (body) are stilled not even for an instant." (Guru Arjan Dev, Ashtpadis, pg. 687)

Setting aside all other days, it is said,
that the Lord was born on the eighth lunar day. ||1||
Deluded and confused by doubt, the mortal practices falsehood.
The Lord is beyond birth and death. ||1||Pause||
You prepare sweet treats and feed them to your stone god.
God is not born, and He does not die, you foolish, faithless cynic! ||2||
You sing lullabies to your stone god - this is the source of all your mistakes.
Let that mouth be burnt, which says that our Lord and Master is subject to birth. ||3||
He is not born, and He does not die; He does not come and go in reincarnation.
The God of Nanak is pervading and permeating everywhere. ||4||1||  SGGS 1136 Guru Arjan Dev Ji.

and next time if u write any lines from bani..put page number dont just copy it from random shit sites k..and if its not enough for u i dont wana spend time teaching an ass how much is 2+2

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Re: How Do You Follow Religion?
« Reply #25 on: September 07, 2010, 01:36:33 AM »
ahahahaha oh optimus mere kol bahut bda mind aa tu apna use kar ..

chal fer eh smaj lene aaa jo upperleya guru granth sahib deyan lines fer jhootiyan ne hna ???????

nd tu apna dimag set kar mera taan thik thak he aaaa . kkkkk.

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Re: How Do You Follow Religion?
« Reply #26 on: September 09, 2010, 04:05:31 PM »
mae kisae nu hurt karan vastae nai post karan laga ... bas vase socho yaar gurbani da galat arth nai kadae kadna chayi da...


Rehat

siqgur kI bwxI ibnw rsnw rtih jo hor so mwirAw krqwr kw pVw nrik mD Gor]26]
sathigur kee baanee binaa rasanaa rattehi jo hor so maariaa karathaar kaa parraa narak madhh ghora||26||
Those who disregard the Guru's Bani and chant or speak anything else. will be punished by God Himself.

Rehatnama Bhai Nand Laal Jee


GURBANI

AgY jwiq n puCIAY krxI sbdu hY swru ] horu kUVu pVxw kUVu kmwvxw ibiKAw nwil ipAwru ]
agai jaath n pushheeai karanee sabadh hai saar || hor koorr parranaa koorr kamaavanaa bikhiaa naal piaar ||
Hereafter, no one is questioned about social status; excellent and sublime is the practice of the Word of the Shabad. Other study is false, and other actions are false; such people are in love with poison.

Find Shabad
Page 1093 Guru Amar DaasJee Raag Maaroo

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Re: How Do You Follow Religion?
« Reply #27 on: September 09, 2010, 04:14:14 PM »
REHAT

gurU kw isK gMd-vwkI nw hovY
guroo kaa sikh ga(n)dhaavaakee naa hovai
The Sikh of the Guru should never speak disgusting speech.

Rehatnama Bhai Chaupaa Singh Jee


GURBANI

nwnk iPkY boilAY qnu mnu iPkw hoie ]
naanak fikai boliai than man fikaa hoe ||
O Nanak, speaking insipid words, the body and mind become insipid.

Find Shabad
Page 473 Guru Nanak Dev Jee Raag Aasaa

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Re: How Do You Follow Religion?
« Reply #28 on: September 09, 2010, 10:10:36 PM »
nicha ander neach jahi nichi hu att nich,
nank tinke sang sath badiya siyo kiya rees
jithe nech samaliyan tithe nadar tere bakshesh .

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Re: How Do You Follow Religion?
« Reply #29 on: September 10, 2010, 12:36:25 AM »
"Satyug te mainyo chalyo bal bavan bhaiyo.
Trete te maniyo Ram raghuvansh kahaiyo.
Duapar Krishan murar kans kritarath kiyo,
 ugrasen ko raaj abhay bhagtey jan diyo.
Kaljug pramaan Nanak Guru Angad Amar kahaiyo,
Shri Guru Raaj Abichal Atal Aad Purakh furmaiyo." Guru Granth Sahib.

Good evidence to support your theory. All I'll say again is that God is ajooni, he cannot be born or does not die. Krishan, Nanak, Angad and Amar (like the shabad states) may become God. Think of it when the Gurus were there, the current Guru always passed on their jyot to the next Guru. Do you think God was in multiple Gurus, because by your theory God was born 10 times and died 10 times during the Gurus lives. But by my theory, the jyot (the light) carries on.

Anyways, I think I've beaten this idea way too much and this will be my last message about it. We all love God, so let's not be bogged down into useless discussions.

Ratanjot, I think you should continue to post Religious topics, you bring about good ideas.

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Re: How Do You Follow Religion?
« Reply #30 on: September 10, 2010, 01:57:36 AM »
mein taan jo dasna c das deta , esto jyada evidence de lor v nai i think , oh ajuni hai es ch shak nai but oh ajuni ho ke v jun ch aunda baki apni apni smaj , usnu nai koi smaj sakda ...

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Re: How Do You Follow Religion?
« Reply #31 on: September 10, 2010, 02:11:37 AM »
mein eh nai kia oh ajuni nai oh ajuni hai c rahega but ajuni ho ke v oh apni margi naal jnam lenda hai its clear above in my last posts very clearly . oh ki nai kar sakda .... he can do everything .

chalo je tuhade hisab naaal oh only ajuni he hai only ajuni then taan tusi surdas ji namdev ji bhagat sein ji , bhagat jai dev ji te guru granth sahib deya kai lines bethe bethiyan ne jhoot bna deteya ...

well apni apni smaj but smajo ohi jo sach hai ajuni hai oh es ch shak nai but ajuni ho ke v oh jun ch aunda hai es ch v koi shak nai kyonki eh dowe pehlu sggs app he das rahe ne ....

baki ethe gyan kise da pura nai , no one at last stage so guru granth sahib de akhar ehne pavitar ne jo ki rab de muhu nikale hoye ne , bhai bala ji de sakhi ch esnu panjwa bedh kia janda c guru nank dev ji de bani nu .. eh ehna pavitar hai jo ki rab de muhu niklya te esnu real ohi smaj sakda jo usnu smajiya howe .

hope so gal smaj gaye howo but ik req. hai guru granth sahib de meaning jo line ch kuch kia hunda osnu sahi he rakhiya karo , don't change tht .

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Re: How Do You Follow Religion?
« Reply #32 on: September 10, 2010, 02:16:03 AM »
kuddi ta gunna di guthli a

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Re: How Do You Follow Religion?
« Reply #33 on: September 17, 2010, 12:25:30 PM »
mala gauri bani bhagat namdev ji ki

 ik om kar satguru parshad !!

dhan dhan o ram ben bajje !! madhur madhur dhuni anhatt ghaje !!
dhan dhan megha romawali !! dhan dhan krishan ode kambli !!
dhandhan tu mata devki !! jeh greh ramiyiya kamlapatti!!
dhan dhan ban kahnd  brindaban !! jeh khele shri narayna !!
ben bajje godan chare!! name ka swami anad kare!!


nw mr optimus see nd read it .

chalo pehli lien ch kuch khas nai krishan de rab de avtar hon da saboot but nichliya sariya lines taan pad lo akha khol ke .

oh kambli dhan aa jisnu krishan ne odiya , oh mata devki dhan aaa jisdi khukho oh hoye , nw devki de kuhku hun koi hor ta hoya nai c i think ,
te dhan dhan ne brindaban de jungle jithe narayan khede hun bridaban hor taa koi rab da avtar aakke khedeya nai , murli bjawe means bansuri bajunde ne hor kon bjaunda murli krishan bina rab de avtars cho ?????? giyan chrawe eh v do ne he chariyiyan guru nank dev ji na ja fer krishan ji ne but ethe oh krishan de gal kar rahe cz uprli sari lines krishan ji te ne te oh gyuan chraun jande c, nd last line ch likhiya ki namme da swami es tra choj karke annd magan rehnda ,,, hun kio jihe choj oh likh he dete ki bansuri waja ke gyuyan chra ke , brindaban de jungla ch khed ke etc , hun dimag hoya taa jroor use kariyo . kkk.



IK ONKAR  NOT OM KAR

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Re: How Do You Follow Religion?
« Reply #34 on: September 17, 2010, 12:55:31 PM »
mein eh nai kia oh ajuni nai oh ajuni hai c rahega but ajuni ho ke v oh apni margi naal jnam lenda hai its clear above in my last posts very clearly . oh ki nai kar sakda .... he can do everything .

dobara soch. ajuni hoke vi janam kidhan leya janda :|
apna point proove karna eda eh matlab ni ke torh-marod karo

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Re: How Do You Follow Religion?
« Reply #35 on: September 17, 2010, 01:09:05 PM »
dobara soch. ajuni hoke vi janam kidhan leya janda :|
apna point proove karna eda eh matlab ni ke torh-marod karo

hello mr mein koi trod mrod ni kiti okkk , naal oh ajuni oh jnam nai le sakdsa tu koi ban la ke aya uste ????? baki metho jyada nai likhiya janda hun already bahut likh chuki .

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Re: How Do You Follow Religion?
« Reply #36 on: September 17, 2010, 01:42:42 PM »
hello mr mein koi trod mrod ni kiti okkk , naal oh ajuni oh jnam nai le sakdsa tu koi ban la ke aya uste ????? baki metho jyada nai likhiya janda hun already bahut likh chuki .
te sathu hur paria vi ni janda assi par vi bhut chuke a :loll:

 

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