Author Topic: 5 Types of Sikhi (Read 8103 times)

ਪੇਂਡੂ · « **on:** January 16, 2013, 09:21:19 PM »

1. "Dekha thi Sikhi - The type of Sikhi you take on because you see someone else do it. "Dekh" = To see. This one does not last very long. Guruji does not accept this ("parvaan") type of Sikhi.

2. "To Get Something From Guruji" Sikhi - Gianiji called this "Hirs thi Sikhi". This is where one tries to please the Guru to get something done from Him. All other methods have failed, why not go to Gurdwara and do some Seva, maybe I get what I want. Guruji does not accept this ("parvaan") type of Sikhi either.

3. "Kauf thi Sikhi" - "Kauf" fear. The fearful Sikhi. Somebody told you that you must take amrit, otherwise something will happen. Very rampant in India a while ago. People where so scared, that they would ask where an Amrit Sanchaar was being held.

4. "Sidak thi Sikhi" - This is the type of Sikhi undertaken by a Sikh that is without any pressure, fear, or greed. It is simple done to set one's life in accord in this world and the next. Guruji accepts this Sikhi. Gianiji mentions all the martyrs in the Sikh faith who never gave up on it no matter what punishment they had to endure.

5. "Prem thi Sikhi" - "Prem" = Love. This was given to Bhai Nand Lal Ji. This type of Sikhi, Guruji accepts as well.

Reference: Sant Giani Avtar Singh Ji - Gur Sikhi Ki Hai
Source : http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/gurmat-vichaar/25718-5-types-of-sikhi.html

Punjabi Janta Forums - Janta Di Pasand · « **on:** January 16, 2013, 09:21:19 PM »

҂ ȿḉặᵰɗἷἧäѷїѧҋ↔ᶀɍǐȶĩṧӊ ₰ · « **Reply #1 on:** January 18, 2013, 05:49:59 AM »

So every sikh individual are categorised into one of those types? Crikey. Btw, the 1st type of sikh doesn't make much sense

ਪੇਂਡੂ · « **Reply #2 on:** January 21, 2013, 12:05:41 AM »

Quote from: ҂ ȿḉặᵰɗἷἧäѷїѧҋ↔ᶀɍǐȶĩṧӊ ₰ on January 18, 2013, 05:49:59 AM

So every sikh individual are categorised into one of those types? Crikey. Btw, the 1st type of sikh doesn't make much sense

not every sikh...this is analysis of just one Sikh religious scholars....i listened to another sikh scholar professor Sarbjit Singh dhunda, he said there's eight types out there, so it varies....and I have seen first type happened to my czn....he got baptized by amrit after looking at other frnds at smaller age.... he got rid of his hairs later when he got older....so it didn't lasted long....which absolutely falls under first category :okk:

°◆SáŅj◆° · « **Reply #3 on:** January 21, 2013, 12:21:15 AM »

Quite intereting!..would like to learn more abt it..
Thanku fr sharin it w/us :)

҂ ȿḉặᵰɗἷἧäѷїѧҋ↔ᶀɍǐȶĩṧӊ ₰ · « **Reply #4 on:** January 26, 2013, 06:37:33 AM »

Quote from: S.S.P Gabru on January 21, 2013, 12:05:41 AM

not every sikh...this is analysis of just one Sikh religious scholars....i listened to another sikh scholar professor Sarbjit Singh dhunda, he said there's eight types out there, so it varies....and I have seen first type happened to my czn....he got baptized by amrit after looking at other frnds at smaller age.... he got rid of his hairs later when he got older....so it didn't lasted long....which absolutely falls under first category :okk:

Ah i see

rabbdabanda · « **Reply #5 on:** January 26, 2013, 07:31:41 AM »

well these are just states of our minds! how they varies from time to time!
not the types of sikhi !
and this is also a state of mind of the person who made this statement that there are types or kinds of sikhi!
mann...eh mann bahut kujh karwaunda bande ton...
koi kahe main sara samundar da paani pee lea...main mann jau
par j koi kehnda main mann te kaabu paa lea... ha ha ha main nahi mann skda!
hun main eh comment kr reha ..eh v mann de hi kaare aa...
"Nanak! mann jeete jag jeet"

♥Majajan_ · « **Reply #6 on:** January 26, 2013, 04:27:52 PM »

ede ch kida apa soch sakde a ki appa kehdi catgory ch a

ਪੇਂਡੂ · « **Reply #7 on:** January 27, 2013, 08:04:30 PM »

Quote from: /<ΔηⓦΔя on January 26, 2013, 07:31:41 AM

well these are just states of our minds! how they varies from time to time!
not the types of sikhi !
and this is also a state of mind of the person who made this statement that there are types or kinds of sikhi!
mann...eh mann bahut kujh karwaunda bande ton...
koi kahe main sara samundar da paani pee lea...main mann jau
par j koi kehnda main mann te kaabu paa lea... ha ha ha main nahi mann skda!
hun main eh comment kr reha ..eh v mann de hi kaare aa...
"Nanak! mann jeete jag jeet"

types no. 4 nd 5 are not states of mind...they r going to b permanently thr, jadd koi banda sacha sikh banda :okk:

...

Quote from: ♥ Deepo ♥ on January 26, 2013, 04:27:52 PM

ede ch kida apa soch sakde a ki appa kehdi catgory ch a

Deepo appan ta sirf admire hi kar sakde sikhi nu, which is not listed over here :okk:

Sardar_Ji · « **Reply #8 on:** February 04, 2013, 05:28:22 PM »

there is no type of sikhi and i nver heard a types of sikhi...

҂ ȿḉặᵰɗἷἧäѷїѧҋ↔ᶀɍǐȶĩṧӊ ₰ · « **Reply #9 on:** February 09, 2013, 07:05:21 AM »

Quote from: Gurpinder Mand on February 04, 2013, 05:28:22 PM

there is no type of sikhi and i nver heard a types of sikhi...

Hahahaha

ѕняєєf נαтт кαиg · « **Reply #10 on:** February 09, 2013, 07:07:58 AM »

sikhi nu vi ni shadya eh kehdiya ghrellu types bna dittiya :wait:

rabbdabanda · « **Reply #11 on:** February 09, 2013, 12:50:49 PM »

you all are taking it wrong!
mere veero, bhehno, te dosto!

asal wich sabh sade mann diyan khedan aa....
insaan da mann wich jo khyal aunda oh osnu apni soch mutabik bol denda likh denda!
eda hi eh vi sadi soch aa... ik insaan di soch aa..!

tuhanu ki lagda k asin kalyug wich reh rrhe aaa? te satyug dobara nahi auna ? jo ho k chala gya?
eh v sirf sadi sochni aa..

ajj vi j koi ajehi soch rakhda hai k parmatma ik hai! koi dharam ya fer hor tarah diyan restrictions nahi haigian.. rabb har insaan ch wassda hai te rabb insaan de andron hi milna hai ...nah k gurdware, mandir , masjid, ya kise girja ghar wich mathe nakk ragrhan nal... ohna jagah te jaa k ik mahaul milda hai, mann nu shanti jrur mildi hai..kyun oh jagah te paramaatma da jaap hunda hai , osdi wadeyaayi hundi hai..
j asin ajj vi eh sabh sochde haan k rabb sade wich hai.. osde bhaane nu mann k chalde han os de bina kise v dunayavi padaarth, insaan , nal moh nahi paunde... (moh te pyaar do alag cheezan ne). tan eh ajj da mahaul , time vi satyug hai jis ch har cheez jagah wich sanu parmatma hi disda hai tan...!!

har insaan di soch mutabik hi yug bane ne...
satyug
dwaapar
treta
kalyug

te dharam , wagera eh sabh cheezan mann diyan chalaan ne...
eh dimag diyan gunjala chhetinahi khulldian..jad tak poora guru naah mile...
te khudayi wala parda faash na howe..!

ese tarah sikhi... jisnu ajkal ek dharam da roop de ditta gaya hai te nal di nal eh v keha janda hai k shiri guru granth sahib ji sarab -sanjhe guru ne! eh dowan gallan wich bahut antar aa jnaab! ehna nu sapasht kar dena chahida hai k wakeya sikhi sirf sikhan layi hai? ya fer sabh de layi? !

chalo main topic te aunde! :
sikhi = one god, one guru

= sabh kujh rabb de lekhe laa dena... dhan , mann , tann de nal
guru ton wadda koi nahi....
"mera mujh mein kush nahi...jo kujh hai so tera"
jad tak bande di soch eh nahi ho jandi... odon tak oh sacha sikh nahi...
edi koi categories nai aa... eh sirf sadi soch aa... jis ne soch diyan v agge categories bna dittian...
k insaan di soch v enne parkaar di ho skdi...

soch ne sochea....k sochan sochan wich gal aayi k meri soch hai j soch de mutabik eh sochiye...k sikhi de followers lai saukha kar deyie k j tusi eh stage clear krde jaoge te end te jo stage augi ohdon tusi sachi te pure sikh ban jaoge...! kise ik soch ne apnia sochan ikathiyan kar k ik soch bna ditti...jis nu sabh apni soch smjh k sochi ja rhe ne!

baki j koi smjh gya te theek...nahi te tan v theek aa..jad os ne smjhauna hoea ape smjh aa jani.. :smile:
mera ethe ksie de sentiments nu hurt krn da koi matlab nahi....
masti manao ..mehkhaane aao :rockon:
:rabb: rabb rakha!!
khush raho !! dhanwaad!!

mamu · « **Reply #12 on:** May 04, 2014, 11:44:53 PM »

Interesting topic.. I've read this sakhi as well.. but with a different kathavachak .. I think the sakhi is in Sooraj Prakash Granth by Kavi Santokh Singh ji... It was Guru Hargobind Sahib who explained it to his Sikhs the types of Sikhi and what kind of Sikhi is parvaan.
I kind of agree with Rabbdabanda stating that its mann di avastha... however we have seen two types in sikhi... One that are completely towards prema bhagti- for example Baba Nand Singh ji. Jede sirf naam and bani vich rasse hoye ne.. second Bhai Taru Singh ji, Akali Phoola Singh ji..
I'm not saying that Bhai Taru Singh ji and Akali Phoola Singh didn't do bhagti,, Bhagti bina shaheed da khitaab hasil nahi hunda. but its more of jede kamm Guru Sahib ne jihnu ditta.
I wonder if Kauf thi Sikhi is parvaan.. end of the day Bhau(fear) and prem have a very big rishta according to Gurbani.

mundaxrisky · « **Reply #13 on:** May 05, 2014, 12:46:27 AM »

Well well well now we av diff types of SIKHI as well eh ? moi ta hun ina kanfuj oo gia wa cz moi spent gud 2 yrs in some kinda khalsa skool learning boud sikhism n punjabi n moi swear no one told moi dis ke sikhi dia ve types hundia wa

: now moi gettin a huge headache from all ya geniuses (nawt a bad head ache thou) anywayz i think all ya mamu RDB bi, SSP av a vast amount of cache boud sikhism ... well dats a blessing gud work guyz... wokay hun moi ta ik question wa plz bear wid moi n plzzz help moi to undersatnd sikhism lil better

Sikhs da supreme holy granth shri guru granth sahib ji wa rt .... rtt gr888888 atleast we r all agree on dat.
je koi sirf te sirf BUS sriguru granth sahib je nu manda wa bus ohi read karda wa te bus ohi manda wa jo ohde vich likia wa ehde vich ta koi galt lag noi honi chahedi rt ....rt... gr8888888 so we r all agree on dat point as well

So moi genius frnds moinu haa dasoo ke shri guru granth sahib ji ander kithhe likhia wa ke amrit shakoo.. ( jina ne shakia wa i av a most respect for them n i love moi sarbans dani shri guru gobind singh ji ... juss as ya all do)

But bus moi nu inna dasoo jemain sirf te sirf shri guru granth sahib je nu manda wa ohnu hee sikhs de supreme power samjda wa ... fe guru granth sahib ji ander kithe likhia wa amrit shakn nu .... n jimme stages te katha sunoun walle granthis kehnde wa ke bus amrit dhari se bajan walle de sikh wa dujje noi ( vich moi think is a bull crap they juss use dat as a scare tactic ) soo rdb , mamu ssp ... help moi to under stand sikhi lil better TY

moi dinn/dun tryin to hurt anyones feelings or belief moi curious wa bus. TY

ਕਰਮਵੀਰ ਸਿੰਘ · « **Reply #14 on:** May 05, 2014, 01:00:40 AM »

Mainu lagda likhan vich bolan vich samjhan samjhaun vich ik akhar di galti naal kafi fark pai gya e. Types sikhi dia nai ho sakdia par sikh dia zaroor ho sakdia ohna de mann anusar bhawna anusar.

N risky bhaji asi school jande aa par kitaba ch nai likhya hunda k uniform paa k aya karo nha k aya karo te ohda koi study naal koi bohta link v ni lagda fer v teachers bachya nu insist karde eh sab karan layi. Edda kyo?

Do mulk jung larde aa par eh koi treaty ni hundi k soldiers ne uniform pauni hi aa. Pared karni hi aa.Fer v aida hunda, kyo?

mamu · « **Reply #15 on:** May 05, 2014, 01:03:54 AM »

I Agree with karamveer .. it should be type of Sikh not sikhi.. Thanks you veer for correcting us all. Mera deemag vich aahi si ke type of Sikh aa but I kept typing sikhi.

...
Risky. regarding your post. I'm not a genius,stating that would be an insult to Gursikhs.. I'm just lost a soul who is still searching answers for my own curiosity. Being a Sikh is a continuous journey of learning. Guru Granth Sahib nu manana and Guru Granth Sahib Nu sirf matha tekna are two different things. As per Guru Granth Sahib.. there are several Hymns that state that a Sikh should never question his Guru- "Gur ke greh sewak jo rahe.. Gur ki agya man meh sahe", "Man meeth tuharo keeyo..Agya maan jaan sukh paaya.. sun sun naam tuhara jeeyo" both of these hymns are by Guru Arjan Dev ji .. they state that only way to be accepted by the Guru is to follow him without question. If you follow Guru Granth Sahib the question that you asked would never arise.. it arises out of "ego" its the ego that keeps us away from the Guru. We think we are smarter and have way around it all but we have to present our head to the Guru. as per Amrit Sanchar. Guru Gobind Singh has stated rehat pyaar mujhko Sikh pyaara naahe.. clearly stating he wants us all in rehat. Sikh should follow the Guru said and not look for a written doctrine to find excuses.. as per written doctrine several rehatnames are there that state a Sikh should be amrit dhaari. Risky, I am not an amrit dhaari myself.. I'm still dealing with the same issues are you are because of my ego.
I've seen a lot of Sikhs(mones -sardar doesn't matter me included) that claim we are ready to die for our Guru. But the question Guru asks is- are you ready to live for him

mundaxrisky · « **Reply #16 on:** May 05, 2014, 06:10:17 AM »

ummmmm ssa mamu n karm veer bi, so instead answering moi question karm bi gave moi counter questions , cleaver

: , moi juss asked simply a question n i guess u guys dunt av a simply yes/NO answer for moi ke je koi siraf te sirf shri guru granth sahib ji nu manda wa te jo kuc gurujis ne recite kita wa OHNU BE MANDA wa ke ohh sikh noi oo sakda..... baki karmveer bi tuc uniforms de gal kiti wa rt ... uniforms av nuthin to do with education uniform is MERE A LUXURY.

AND moi mamu bi, ya moi kno al boud rehat nama n evertythin u av said...but moi question was a slight diff.moi dunt av no "ifs or buts" boud sikhism n imma proud to be a SIKH .But imma so fed up wid em parcharak who treat SHEJ DHARI SIKHS n CLEAN SHAVEN like sikhi's STEP SONS, clean shaven jina marji tan ,mann, dhann naal seva kare onhu kadde oh respect noi mildi guru gharan cho jo ik beard n whiskers walle nu mildi wa ... sadda guru ghar tristate area da sub toh old guru gharwa.... whn they av gurughar's president's elections .. monne sikhs or clean shaven sikhs are nawt allowed to vote.... daddi mush rakh ke koi rooj daru be pinda hobbe oh vote pa sakda wa ...WOMEN chae rooj salon te eyebrow threading ,hair cut karondia hoon oh vote pa sakdia wa... IS DAT SIKHI ? or HYPOCRISY ? guru gharan vich kitte na kitte har rooj ladaiyan hundia wa , shri guru granth sahib ji agge kirpana nikldia wa, dastaran utrdia wa ..maharaj de beadbi hundi wa ...te karn walle kon hunde wa ...ohiii so CALLED KARMVEER BI JI DE UNIFORM WALLE SIKHS...... guru gharan cho jad seva hundi wa ..langars n cleaning etc oh sub to jada kon karde wa ...monne clean shaven sikh n still ona nu oh respect noi diti jandi jo so called UNIFORMED SIKHS nu mildi wa chahe oh kinne be galt kyo na hoon... TY ( now moi rest ma case)

Anamika · « **Reply #17 on:** May 05, 2014, 06:33:24 AM »

The only problem is THE DIFFERENCE between what Guru Ji says, and what Sikhs do.....

They are a bad example I agree.....but since are not what they show, you shouldn't consider them Sikh, and take their life conduct as example of Sikh

Rehn gall Amrita di

Tan hanni Guru Granth Sahib vich Amrit shakkan di gall hoi aa.. keo ke Guru Granth Sahib ji poetic form ch likhe geye es lei apne har Question da javab verses nu interprate kar ke milda vichon....Amirt di gall oh har vaar hundi jad Guru Sahib ji kehnde ke Guru ton bina gat (mukti) nahi... Koi Guru houga ohi ensaan nu Parmatma naal milauga.....
Guru Sahib ji Das Patshahia di Jot a.....so Guru Granth Sahib vich te 10 Guru Sahibaana vich koi fark nahi a....es lei jo Guru Granth Sahib nu Guru manda, oh Guru Sahibana di gall vi mannuga (included Guru Gobind Singh )

Guru Granth Sahib ji nu parhan lei, vichaaran lei sikh hon di lor nahi a......je koi insaan Sirf Guru Granth Sahib ji tak seemat (limited) rehna chahunda....without considering what 10 Guru Sahib ji said....thats his/her wish.......keo Guru Granth Sahib ji harinsaan de lei guide ban sakde

So you van read Gurbani, have faith in it, wothout being a Sikh

What im saying i: mantain difference between what sikhs are, what sikh shpud be
and Between Guru Granth Sahib ji as a moral guide
and GUru Granth Sahib ji as Guru of Sikh Community

ਕਰਮਵੀਰ ਸਿੰਘ · « **Reply #18 on:** May 05, 2014, 07:16:40 AM »

Quote from: kissin_kanahiya on May 05, 2014, 06:10:17 AM

ummmmm ssa mamu n karm veer bi, so instead answering moi question karm bi gave moi counter questions , cleaver : , moi juss asked simply a question n i guess u guys dunt av a simply yes/NO answer for moi ke je koi siraf te sirf shri guru granth sahib ji nu manda wa te jo kuc gurujis ne recite kita wa OHNU BE MANDA wa ke ohh sikh noi oo sakda..... baki karmveer bi tuc uniforms de gal kiti wa rt ... uniforms av nuthin to do with education uniform is MERE A LUXURY.

AND moi mamu bi, ya moi kno al boud rehat nama n evertythin u av said...but moi question was a slight diff.moi dunt av no "ifs or buts" boud sikhism n imma proud to be a SIKH .But imma so fed up wid em parcharak who treat SHEJ DHARI SIKHS n CLEAN SHAVEN like sikhi's STEP SONS, clean shaven jina marji tan ,mann, dhann naal seva kare onhu kadde oh respect noi mildi guru gharan cho jo ik beard n whiskers walle nu mildi wa ... sadda guru ghar tristate area da sub toh old guru gharwa.... whn they av gurughar's president's elections .. monne sikhs or clean shaven sikhs are nawt allowed to vote.... daddi mush rakh ke koi rooj daru be pinda hobbe oh vote pa sakda wa ...WOMEN chae rooj salon te eyebrow threading ,hair cut karondia hoon oh vote pa sakdia wa... IS DAT SIKHI ? or HYPOCRISY ? guru gharan vich kitte na kitte har rooj ladaiyan hundia wa , shri guru granth sahib ji agge kirpana nikldia wa, dastaran utrdia wa ..maharaj de beadbi hundi wa ...te karn walle kon hunde wa ...ohiii so CALLED KARMVEER BI JI DE UNIFORM WALLE SIKHS...... guru gharan cho jad seva hundi wa ..langars n cleaning etc oh sub to jada kon karde wa ...monne clean shaven sikh n still ona nu oh respect noi diti jandi jo so called UNIFORMED SIKHS nu mildi wa chahe oh kinne be galt kyo na hoon... TY ( now moi rest ma case)

y you want only yes/no :hehe: n mainu samjh ni ayi tu meri gall nu change pakh ch use kita ya kise hor pakh ch.

"ik pyala jo pehla ee bharya hoya howe ohde ch hor pani nahi paya ja sakda. Kuj laina e te pehla apna bhanda khali karna payega" :smile:

rabbdabanda · « **Reply #19 on:** May 05, 2014, 07:21:31 AM »

Quote from: ਕਰਮਵੀਰ ਸਿੰਘ on May 05, 2014, 07:16:40 AM

y you want only yes/no :hehe: n mainu samjh ni ayi tu meri gall nu change pakh ch use kita ya kise hor pakh ch.

"ik pyala jo pehla ee bharya hoya howe ohde ch hor pani nahi paya ja sakda. Kuj laina e te pehla apna bhanda khali karna payega" :smile:

tu banda confuse kri ja baba

:
ohnu dasde yr... k Shri guru granth sahib ch, guru gobind singh ji di baani nahi hai.
os swaal da jwaab dasam granth ch aa... ik line da swaal hunda.. tusi aiwe ee na bas :hehe:

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