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Help & Suggestions / Re: about punjabi bhangra
« on: May 10, 2008, 08:06:33 AM »
nahi yaar only the full album is zipped. kalla kalle ganey de naal download button dubbunge, tan sirf ohi gana mp3 download hoyuga.

If you download individual tracks, it will download in mp3 format.

5822
Gup Shup / Re: Tell what you have growing...
« on: May 09, 2008, 02:26:57 PM »
dimag jhat dehni khaa lehndi aa, par makki nu kehndi "I DNT EAT MAKI DE ROTI"

vaddi mem

5823
Fun Time / Re: ghane da jawab ghane ch
« on: May 08, 2008, 12:56:17 AM »
Mai Joban Di Peengh Jhootdi
Jhoota Deja Akey, Ve Sajna Haan Deya
Rakh Seeney Naal Lakey, Ve Sajna Haan Deya

Je Tun mor Kalehri, Ve Main Bul bul wargi jatti
Gora Rang Ranga ke Rabb Ton, Bangayi Roop di hatti
mundri de nugg wargi ve main, rakhdi torr banake
Ve Sajna Haan Deya, Rakh Seeney Naal Lakey, Ve Sajna Haan Deya


- Yudhvir Manak - Joban (Close to you) (Dil Dharhkey [Turning Point])
- next word: Seeney

5824
Lok Virsa Pehchaan / Re: Wedding Songs
« on: May 08, 2008, 12:27:10 AM »
dhanwaad punjabikudi ehna bolan layi, jadon koi viah ayu, ethey hi vapas auna main... haha

for people who may not know these folk traditional songs have been sung by many artists (and most of them can be found at DholCutz Bhangra Radio)

Peke jaan waliye....... is by Asa Singh Mastana & Surinder Kaur
gud nalon ishq mitha is by Malkit Singh
Kali teri gut te parande tera lal ni is by Asa Singh Mastana
Sanu nehr valay pul tey bula kay is by Nooran Lal
lathay di chadar is by Surinder Kaur & Prakash Kaur (also sung by Dolly Singh)
Chitta Kukkar Banairai teh is by Musarrat
Kala Shah Kala sung by Jasbir Kaur and Anamika
Saddake saddake jaandiye mutiare ni sung by Surinder Kaur & Prakash Kaur
Batti baal ke banere utte rakhni aan -2 sung by Shamshad Begum
Ho jaavo ni koi modd leavo, sung by Gurdas Mann
Saada chireeyaan da chamba ve, sung by Gurdas mann and Surinder Kaur & Prakash Kaur

5825
Shayari / priceless jatti tuhade layi ik shayari
« on: May 08, 2008, 12:15:49 AM »
somebody requested "jinni si beeti" by jasbir jassi on dholcutz radio, right when you said you were leaving...

here's how the song goes (it fits our situation):
jinni si beetni beet gayi sajna
hun sade jaan di tareek payi sajna
vichorey naal tutde naa mel dilan de
haye rabb ne milaya, tan fer milange
-- jasbir jassi

5826
Knowledge / Re: question of the day
« on: May 07, 2008, 10:54:36 PM »
You should know blood relations in Sikhism have no meaning at all.  The wife and sons and daughters of Guru Amar Das ji did not become Guru or were matyred.  Being born to a guru or being wedded to a guru may be an honor, but it does not give them any special strengths or qualities that people should see.  Ofcourse there are Gurus who had sons that went against their wishes (I could give examples, if you need).

I hope you get what I'm saying.

5827
Knowledge / Re: question of the day
« on: May 07, 2008, 03:28:01 PM »
1430 pages

5828
Knowledge / Re: question of the day
« on: May 07, 2008, 11:55:17 AM »
they're some of my favorite names of all time:
Fateh Singh
Zorawar Singh
Ajit Singh
Jujhar Singh

dekh singhan da kidhan de nam hunde si... ajj kal de naam dasda:
lucky
pappu
sunny
velly
mani
ravi
SWAH DI KHEH hahah

5829
Knowledge / Re: question of the day
« on: May 07, 2008, 10:18:40 AM »
whose sons' name?
Mata Gujri's son's name is Guru Gobind Singh

5830
Knowledge / Re: question of the day
« on: May 07, 2008, 09:26:01 AM »
her name is Mata Gujri Ji.

5831
Pics / Re: Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa...
« on: May 06, 2008, 11:31:38 AM »
nah that has changed recently, pakistan actually approves visas for Sikh people who just want to go see gurudwaras.  Usually some gurdwaras sponsor such trips.  Its not as bad anymore.

5832
Knowledge / Re: question of the day
« on: May 06, 2008, 11:03:11 AM »
Rai Bhoe Di Talwandi, originally called Raipur, is named after Rai Bhular's son by Alla-ud-din Khilji.  It is the birthplace of Guru Nanak Dev ji.  It is where the Nankana Sahib Gurdwara is located.

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Guru Nanak’s estate flourishes in Pakistan

The Bhattis of Nankana Sahib in Pakistan are keeping alive their 500-year-long family tradition of strengthening Sikh-Muslim ties. Naveen S. Garewal visits the Muslim family, whose ancestor Rai Bular Bhatti was the second disciple of Guru Nanak


Rai Bular Bhatti’s haveli in Nankana Sahib was frequented by Guru Nanak during his childhood

Blessed by Baba Nanak, the Bhatti family of Talwandi (now Nankana Sahib) has been a shining example of Muslim-Sikh brotherhood for over half a millennium. Rai Bular Bhatti, a contemporary of Guru Nanak Dev and a devout Muslim, became Guru Nanak’s second disciple. After Bibi Nanki, Guru Nank’s sister, he was the second person to recognise that Guru Nanak was no ordinary mortal and that he was a divine soul.

Blessed by Baba Nanak, the Bhatti family of Talwandi (now Nankana Sahib) has been a shining example of Muslim-Sikh brotherhood for over half a millennium.

Rai Bular Bhatti, a contemporary of Guru Nanak Dev and a devout Muslim, became Guru Nanak's second disciple. After Bibi Nanki, Guru Nank's sister, he was the second person to recognise that Guru Nanak was a divine soul.


One of the objectives of the now defunct Nankana Sahib Foundation was to spread Guru Nanak’s teachings

Sakhis, pertaining to the life of Guru Nanak, feature Rai Bular repeatedly. In the sakhi where villagers are furious about Nanak's cattle eating their crop, it is Rai Bular who got the crop surveyed and found it to be undamaged. In yet another sakhi, Rai Bular is said to have spotted a hooded cobra providing shade to the sleeping Guru Nanak. This strengthened his belief that Guru Nanak was no ordinary mortal.

The blessings the Bhatti family received have seen them prosper through 19 generations in five centuries.

Today when the world is getting divided on religious basis, the children of Rai Bular Bhatti continue to carry on the tradition of the Bhatti clan. An important functionary of the now defunct Nankana Sahib Foundation, the late Rai Bashir worked hard to build an institution on the 10 acres donated by his nephews Rai Sarwar Khan and Rai Ahmed Khan. He laid the foundation stone of the complex in June 1994.

Even though Rai Bular's family is today scattered all across the world, his descendants are actively involved with the promotion of Muslim-Sikh brotherhood. The family has kept alive their ancestral links with Gurus. Despite being devout Muslims, the family has emotional and spiritual attachment with Sikhism for the past several generations.

The Adi Granth translated into English from Gurmukhi by Dr. Ernest Trumpp finds repeated references to Rai Bular. Members of the Bhatti family make special efforts to participate in all Sikh celebrations. They especially came from Pakistan to take part in the tercentenary celebrations of the birth of Khalsa at Anandpur Sahib some time ago. They are bestowed the honour of leading the religious processions held at Nankana Sahib each year to celebrate the birth anniversary of Guru Nanak.

According to historians, originally, the Rais were Bhatti Rajputs and Rai Bular, a contemporary of Guru Nanak, was the ruler of Rai Bhoe di Talwandi where Nankana Sahib is now located. Mehta Kalyan Das (Kalu), a well-read person of Bedi caste, was an employee of Rai Bular. Nanak was born to Mehta Kalu and his wife Mata Tripta in 1469, at a place now known as Janam Asthan in Nankana Sahib town, which is now also a district.

According to the ancient revenue records in possession of the family, Rai Bular gave 247 murabas of land to Gurdwara Janam Asthan along with an annual jagir of Rs 9996. He also gave another 220 murabas to Gurdwara Bal Lila and extended an annual jagir of Rs 31 and another 290 muraba and annual grant of Rs 50 to Gurdwara Mal Sahib. This entire land of Nanakana Sahib given to Guru Nanak by Rai Bular amounts to 757 murabas (approx. 18,750 acres) and is now controlled by the Evacuee Trust Property Board of Pakistan and leased out to the people of Nankana Sahib.

Rai Bular chose to give his most fertile agricultural lands to Guru Nanak after he discovered Guruji's divine powers. It is on this land, and on the exact spot where Guru Nanak was born, that Gurdwara Janam Asthan was built by Maharaja Ranjit Singh.

Maharaja Ranjit Singh, incidentally, also had the same lineage as the Bhattis, who were direct descendants of Raja Rai Bhuni Khan — whose one son Rai Sanspal was the ancestor of Maharaja Ranjit Singh, while the other son Raja Manpal was the ancestor of the Bhatti clan. This fact finds mention in Tarik-e-Bhattian, a book on the history of the Bhatti family.

Today the Nankana Sahib Estate consists of about 16,962 acres, mainly leased to farmers and residents of Nankana Sahib. Almost all houses in Nankana Sahib are built on the property donated by the Bhatti family. "Babaji" (as Guru Nanak is affectionately called by the Bhatti family), says Rai Mohammad Saleem Akram Bhatti, the 19th generation descendant of Rai Bular, "is revered by all of us as our father."

The family had directly managed and looked after this property on behalf of Guru Nanak many years after him by the successive heads of the Bhatti family. Father-son duo Rai Rehmat Khan and Rai Anayat collected revenue after the Partition and deposited it with the Gurdwara Management, which was in turn used for the welfare and development of local Sikhs and the seven gurdwaras in Nankana Sahib.


The Rai Bular family has maintained the highest traditions of Muslim-Rajput culture. It is said that during the Partition, Rai Hussain, father of Rai Bashir, personally escorted to safety over 1,000 Sikhs during the Partition. Heartbroken by the Partition and the massacre of thousands of lives, he passed away in 1948.

The earliest historical reference to the city of Talwandi (now Nankana Sahib) is found in ballads. There’s mention of the first siege of Jaisalmer that occurred during the reign of Alla-ud-din Khilji (1295-1315). Khilji's Army had attacked Jaisalmer, a state in Rajputana, to avenge raids by Rajputs. It is said that after a bloody battle, one of the Bhatti Rajput prince who survived was taken hostage. He was sent to exile somewhere north of Punjab, near Kotli (about 40 miles from the present-day Lahore).

Folklore has it that Alla-ud-din Khilji was so touched by this boy's bravery that he paid a tribute to the young prince by giving him about 1,50,000 acres of Punjab's most fertile land as compensation for his loss and also as an enticement to keep him from rallying troops and building a new Rajput Bhatti Army. This exiled prince is said to have named the place Raipur and later Rai Bhoe di Talwandi (after his son). Nankana literally means Nanak da ana or the coming of Nanak.

In early 1994, a move was initiated to set up the Nankana Sahib Foundation. The purpose of the trust, which was to come up at Kot Hussain Khan, about 5 km from Nankana Sahib, was to generate revenue for the maintenance Nankana Sahib. The Bhatti family donated 10 acres for the same, but the Pakistan Government of Benazir Bhutto did not give permission for the trust and today the place has only a gate at the site.

Since almost all houses of Nankana Sahib are built on the property given to Guru Nanak by the Bhattis, the Nankana Sahib Estate is the property of the Nankana Sahib Gurdwara (Gurdwara Janam Asthan) and it cannot be sold to anyone. Today, about one lakh people reside on this property.

Though all members of the family have always been close to the Sikh community, Rai Hadayat Khan Bhatti, the 17th descendant of Rai Bular, deserves a special mention as he devoted a lot of time to strengthening Sikh-Muslim relations. He led the Sikh procession on the occasion of the 500th anniversary of Guru Nanak. He inculcated the spirit of service in his two sons, Rai Aslam Bhatti and Rai Akram Bhatt, who conducted Sikh pilgrims to the gurdwara and invited them for food at their house.

Rai Akram Bhatti, a practising lawyer at Nankana Sahib welcomes Sikh pilgrims with open arms to his house. His faith in Sikhism is so strong that he says that he owes the birth of his elder son Rai Mohammad Saleem Akram Bhatti to the blessings of Baba Nanak. Saleem, a young criminal lawyer at the Lahore High Court, says: "It is because of Baba Nanak that I am in this world. For us Babaji has a special place in our lives and our family is blessed because of the grace bestowed upon us by Baba Nanak."

Talking about the Muslim-Sikh ties the family has upheld over the centuries, Rai Akram Bhatti says that Rai Hussain Bhatti was awarded the highest honour for his generosity, leadership, public service and vision by Queen Victoria at the golden jubilee celebrations of her coronation in 1887.

Maharaja Ranjit Singh, too, had acknowledged the role of this extraordinary family and its immense contribution to Sikhsm. Ranjit Singh bestowed upon Rai Issa Khan (15th generation) the title of Rai Bhadur and he was made the in charge of a sub-jail in Thatta Issa village. He was also He was also appointed honorary magistrate and given the duty to collect the revenue.

"Militancy in Punjab in the 1980s had a direct impact on the pilgrim flow to Nankana Sahib. We are happy that with the return of peace, the number of pilgrims has risen, giving the Bhattis an opportunity to serve them," says Rai Akram Bhatti.

— Photos by the writer



5833
Shayari / kookoodoo kadoon
« on: May 05, 2008, 01:58:09 PM »
kookoodoo kadoon kookoodoo kadoon
shabey vich rotiyan
pateeley vich tun

5834
Pics / Re: Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa...
« on: May 04, 2008, 05:20:18 PM »
that is a very high quality picture, bahut vadiya jatt da boy

5835
Shayari / Re: pani ch beh.......
« on: May 04, 2008, 04:28:21 PM »
yaar harek sentence ton baad,
"enter" dabb deya kar,
parhna asaan hojanda

5836
Jokes Majaak / Re: Punjab bachaoo.....
« on: May 04, 2008, 04:27:20 PM »
kadey sunida sharab ne kisey maa da putt kholeya
kadey sunida sharab peeke ek putt ne kisey da putt kholeya
eh sade punjab nu mitro sharab ne mohleya,
eh punjab nu yaaro sade ton sharab ne kholeya...

5837
Shayari / Re: ik ladka ........
« on: May 04, 2008, 04:23:17 PM »
good story romeo0039 bahut vadiya

5838
Jokes Majaak / Re: punjab police.....
« on: May 04, 2008, 04:21:31 PM »
romeo0039, tere layi... taza taza likheya...

jise samjha whisky, oh lehke jaan sade mitran di khisky,
jise samjha nashey, ohnu munh lahkey punjab de gabroo fasey,
is liye aaj ke baad no more fudupuney, only jawani, nahi ehda koi sani, oh charhdi jawani...



haha oh kahda marad jehda 2 takkey de nasheya pichey dull jave...

5839
Fun Time / Re: Boliyan
« on: May 03, 2008, 04:17:24 PM »
boli payi dhol di taal utte
ess dharti da til til nachey
ho daggey tilli da jadon vi mel hunda
ohdon dil nache naley pabb nachey

hooo ik hath jorhi duje hath chimta
teeji tumbi di tankaar nachey
ohdon rabh nachey sara jagg nachey
oh tahian bhangre'ch Sardar nachey

--BGIET Bhangra

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Gup Shup / Ajj de Punjab da Kisaan
« on: May 03, 2008, 03:53:56 PM »
I am not sure if peope have heard about it but there is a lot of suicides being committed in Punjab by Jatts due to several different issues.  I found this online...its a 12 min documentary about a jatt from punjab who is in debt around 2 lakh 90 thousands (about $7200).  his father had already comitted suicide and he talks about his life.  in the second part you see his life takes a turn for good because of this video but there are many more in punjab who aren`t that lucky.

[hardeepmaan: These video is made to show the hardship a farmer from punjab is facing..and commiting sucide.]
part 1:
part 2:[/b]
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-QKgfgJQqk


This is not supposed to make anyone feel bad about anything but its something to just keep in mind.  Our parents/grandparents came from these conditions.  We should be thankful for where we are at and stories like these put our life in context.  There are people who are so much worse of then us.  If our parents had not been out here, some of us might have been under similar conditions.

--Curious

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