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Fun Time / Re: what is beautiful in india????
« on: October 11, 2008, 12:14:32 PM »
na hor koi cheez hi ni india'ch
fittey moonh tere jotty

5262
Gup Shup / Re: which part do u like best in punjab?
« on: October 11, 2008, 12:10:31 PM »
punjab'ch ehne jiley aa, tun ah 4'k pata ni kidhan pahte
mein sare punjab de zilley vich paa dittey tey...

ah leh list:
    * Amritsar
    * Barnala
    * Bathinda
    * Firozpur
    * Faridkot
    * Fatehgarh Sahib
    * Gurudaspur
    * Hoshiarpur
    * Jalandhar
    * Kapurthala
    * Ludhiana
    * Mansa
    * Moga
    * Mohali
    * Muktsar
    * Nawan Shahr
    * Patiala
    * Rupnagar
    * Sangrur
    * Tarn Taran

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ah gray wali ghaint lagdi aa

supra and skyline both are a good choice, sade amreeka'ch eh dohey batheriyan mehngiyan, par australia'ch pata ni tenu kidhan milniya haha

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Introductions / New Friends / Re: Sat Shri Akal, Namskar , Salaam
« on: October 11, 2008, 12:03:00 PM »
balle tere, sat sri akal mitra

eh sunke khushi hoyi ke tun sareya nu sat sri akal bulayi akey

hor kidhan fer, tun system administration karda?

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Fun Time / Re: ghane da jawab ghane ch
« on: October 11, 2008, 12:00:54 PM »
Singer: Amrik Toofan
Album: Ashiq Pind Sara
Song: Leh Jao Rann Viah Ke



Na koyee randa, na koyee langra na koyee rahu kuwara
Khaatami kardugi sab da bhaar utaara
Je shariyo thoda viah nahi hunda
Digg pao chirni khaa ke
Chonkiya bhar ke vayee leh jao rann viah ke
Chonkiya bhar ke vayee leh jao rann viah ke




Next Word: Langra


 hih hih hih hih hih

nazran'ch rakhi patshah,
kade charna ton pehn na vichore
mein sewa karan langra di,
chhaaran tereya sikhan de jorhe
mein sewa karan langra di,

Ravinder Grewal - Aaveen Baba Nanka
agla lafaz: nazran

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Religion, Faith, Spirituality / Re: AJ DE DIN SHAHEED HOE SUN
« on: October 10, 2008, 09:57:38 AM »
sikh lok hamesha apne shaheedan di shaheedi te khushi manonde han

jidda tuhanu pata hai, asin Guru Arjan Dev ji di shaheedi te khushi manayidi, lokan nu langar shakayida, shabeel layidi

5267
the poll clearly shows that he will stay banned! Sanu ess masle warey hor gussey hon di lorh nahi.

mein kuch keh tani sakda ess masle'ch kiyonki ohne menu gaalan ni kaddiyan... par ehna jaroor kehna
je koi mere kolon kadey vi maafi mangey, mein jaroor maaf kar dinna...
...kiyonki menu pata mein vi zindagi'ch galtiyan keetiyan, jina de layi mein maafi mangna chahunga

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Help & Suggestions / Re: help plz
« on: October 07, 2008, 11:11:58 PM »
nahi sareya kol eh option nahi hegi, only mods and admins.  But PLEASE do not delete any id, it messes up the system.  If anybody doesn't want to use PJ, just tell them don't use it.

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pannu eh eddi waddi khabar bas tun hi sanu sareya nu das sakda, hor ni koi maa da putt jameya jehnu ehni waddi khabar pata hove

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Pics / Re: World's Largest Fountains
« on: October 06, 2008, 08:21:49 PM »
man tht's cool..... yaar buhat vadhiya cheejh ahh ta.... yaar really nice fountain.....

yaar Dubai sachi buhat fast Move kar rahi aa...... Yaar appe nu vi otha hi move hoo jane chahide..... hahaahahahahaha



othey choran nu fansi di saza hundi aa, ess layi soch ke kahi jo kehna aa

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News Khabran / Harimander Sahib may turn off-limits for Bollywood
« on: October 06, 2008, 05:58:44 PM »
Golden Temple may turn off-limits for Bollywood
3 Oct 2008, 1111 hrs IST,TNN

LUDHIANA: Angered by the soaring list of film shootings at the Golden Temple, the most revered shrine of the Sikhs, priests have said the gurdwara
could soon be put out of bounds for most of Bollywood.

The development comes days after Shah Rukh Khan shot for his film Rab Ne Bana Di Jodi at Harmandir Sahib.

"Everybody wants to shoot at the Golden Temple," an angry Shiromani Gurdwara Prabandhak Committee (SGPC) president Avtar Singh Makkar complained on Wednesday. "They (the film crew) make it inconvenient for the devotees and just don’t care about maryada."

"We have decided to be more wary and circumspect in granting permission to film crews for shoots at the Golden Temple," said SGPC president Avtar Singh Makkar. "Only those films or programmes that help the Sikh cause will be allowed to be shot inside the Harmandir Sahib," he added.

The SGPC's announcement on keeping the temple out of bounds for film crew has shocked Bollywood. Film-maker and cinematographer Manmohan Singh said, "How can they do that? There's only one Golden Temple and one can only go there and shoot. The SGPC needs to rethink this. At the most, it can frame guidelines for people like us."

Speaking to TOI from London, Vipul Shah, the maker of 'Namaste London', said, "It's a pious place and we respect the teachings of Sikhism. But there has to be some way out of this so that directors are allowed to shoot. The SGPC, though, can set guidelines. A committee can perhaps be set up to devise a strategy. Our purpose is to showcase the opulence of the temple, so that non-Sikhs also get to know about Punjabi culture."

Award-winning director Madhur Bhandarkar, too, is not amused. "There has to be a solution to this. Maybe they can earmark some spaces for shoots along with specific days on which to do so," he said. On the complaint relating tomaryada, he said, "There can be no compromises on that. Only those who provide an assurance that the shoot will take place in accordance with norms should be allowed."

Director Satish Kaushik, for whom Punjab is a favourite theme as well as a location ground, said banning shoots at the Golden Temple would not solve the problem. "Shooting at the gurdwara is a different experience altogether," he said.

While actor-turned-politician Dara Singh said the SGPC could perhaps have scripts read to them for approval, director Aaditya Bhatt said, "I was also planning to shoot at the Golden Temple. Let's see what happens now. The SGPC could make the process more stringent rather than imposing an outright ban."

The SGPC's reservations, which could derail the plans of a host of Bollywood directors intending to shoot at the picturesque gurdwara, may have been triggered by Raj Kanwar's Sadiyaan, starring Rekha and Rishi Kapoor, getting into the crosshairs of the priests. During the shooting of the film in March, the SGPC had taken exception to a scene in which the leading actress is shown feeding prasad to her co-star. Offended, the temple management had ordered the director to scrap the scene.



Here are some comments from the people:
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saabi, sydney, says: bollywood has worldwide audiences. not only the indians but whole world is watching hindi movies these days. so it could be a good medium to showcase the holiness of Golden temple to whole world..but MARAYADA (sikh practice) should nt be a compromise at all while doing so..i think proper plan can be devised to over come this problem..
[3 Oct, 2008 1521hrs IST]

inderjit sahota, united kingdom, says: Film makers need to be aware that the Golden temple is not a movie lot for their commercial purposes. The Golden temple is first and foremost a place of worship and is the holiest shrine for Sikhs. I hope SPGC and the film makers can work out an understanding, as i Sikh i would be very happy if there no films shot there.
[3 Oct, 2008 1509hrs IST]

sam, petrosa, says: That's not a bad idea at all. The money makers and the policy makers should be kept away from places of worship while at work
[3 Oct, 2008 1444hrs IST]

bharat, India, says: congratulations SGPC. right decision at right time. Keep filmwalas out of a holy an pious place.
[3 Oct, 2008 1443hrs IST]

Buta Singh Chauhan, Germany, says: I think instead of total ban on shooting of Bollywood films at Golden Temple, SGPC should lay out strict regulations concerning Sikh Maryada. It is matter of proud for Sikhs that so many non-sikhs are interested in our religious place. So, Bollywood directors should be allowed for shooting at Darbar Sahib Amritsar.
[3 Oct, 2008 1432hrs IST]

PCLUTHRA, NEW DELHI, says: GOLDEN TEMPLE IS PRECIOUS AND LIFE TO US "SANCTUM SANCTORUM". BAN FILM INDUSTRY NOT TO PICTURISE FILMS AT GOLDEN TEMPLE IS AGAINST LOVE PREACHED BY OUR GURUS.WE NEED TO TAKE A VERY REAL AND IMPARTIAL VIEW OF THE MATTER. WITHOUT PREJUDICE.
[3 Oct, 2008 1424hrs IST]

Inder Pal Singh Vaid, London, says: It is a place to worship not Film city, they should not be allowed to shoot in Golden Temple, only 1 movie per year is more than enough. It is always full of devotees and shooting everytime will create more hassle for people who are visiting Golden Temple.
[3 Oct, 2008 1344hrs IST]

Prabhjot, London, says: Surely it must be extremely difficult for the Golden Temple management to serve the film industry as well as thousands of devotees who visit the shrine every day. With all the money in the industry why can't Bollywood create one within the studios?
[3 Oct, 2008 1331hrs IST]

Vikram singh, delhi, says: The SGPC is right in a way. The Golden Temple is a place of sikh history and not a tourist spot for film shooting. Also people should not be coming there with bodyguards as all are equal.
[3 Oct, 2008 1323hrs IST]

Sunny, Delhi, says: Dear SGPC, Please form strict guidelines for film crew to follow but PLEASE do not ban it completely. I think bollywood is promoting our great religion and we are tying to block it...
[3 Oct, 2008 1313hrs IST]

Gurmeetsingh, Mumbai, says: I cannot understand why bollywood operates like a herd. They are so crazy to make money that they would go for any idea that worked. If the golden temple is going to be shown in every second movie, its surely going to become common place. It is a religious shrine. Non-sikhs also have great respect and regard for it. People visit the shrine with great devotion. We should ensure that its stature does not get reduced by over exposing it through hindi cinema
[3 Oct, 2008 1259hrs IST]

PS Lally, New Delhi, says: I totally agree with the suggestions that suitable guidelines should be framed by the SGPC, by taking into confidence the film producers who wish to visit/ shoot in the Gurudwara, so that the (i) the general public is not inconvenienced, (ii) no act/activity, like love scenes, hugging/kissing, bare headed actions, songs, prejudicial to Sikh identity takes place on the Parikarma of Harimandir Sahibji, and (iii) shoot inside the main Gurudwara, where Holy Guru Granth Sahibji is installed, is allowed only in very very rare occasions. The guidelines being followed by RETC and CTC Punjabi who are telecasting live Kirtan from Harimandir Sahib could be very helpful. Complete ban on shooting in not necessary or desirable at all.
[3 Oct, 2008 1255hrs IST]

VS, Delhi, says: People should respect the Maryada of the holy shrine while shooting there.... They shouldn't behave as they are on some Picnic or thy are above GOD.... If thy are allowed to shoot, thy should behave in proper way.... Disrespecting The Holyness of Place shouldn't take Place......
[3 Oct, 2008 1154hrs IST]


reference: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Golden_Temple_may_turn_off-limits_for_Bollywood/articleshow/3555158.cms

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News Khabran / Re: Changing Rules in Harmandir Shahib
« on: October 06, 2008, 05:52:24 PM »
i already posted the news about fireworks: http://punjabijanta.com/news-khabran/laser-show-to-replace-fireworks-at-golden-temple/
and here's the one about bollywood: http://punjabijanta.com/news-khabran/harimander-sahib-may-turn-off-limits-for-bollywood/

but i don't know about shooting in harimander sahib, I guess if actors/crew are blocking devotees/sangat, it is a good idea.  I don't really know what has been going on.  Do you know?

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Shayari / Re: Kee dasan haal Punjab da...
« on: September 30, 2008, 08:36:53 PM »
bahut vadiya!

pannu, ehda vadiya keeta punjabi_jatt ne nawey topic'ch payiyan, hun mere kolon parh tan hogayi

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Gup Shup / Re: Aao saare movie banaiye!
« on: September 30, 2008, 06:04:52 PM »
par sandhu de maa peyo ni mannde, kehnde "sandhu jatt aa, te baandhri choti jaat di hai"

ess layi eh rishta nahi ho sakda... sandhu apni bandhri de pyar vich challah hokey, kanni mundran pawa lehnda

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Gup Shup / Re: Punjab ya Pardes??
« on: September 30, 2008, 06:02:28 PM »
o naale yaar hun koi punjabi punjab vich reha hi nahi
sab pardesi baithe a
im pretty sure k 4/5 saal vich koi v punjabi nahi howe ga te laggda 2035 takk punjab da naam punjab toh change ho k north bahair pe janna

kayi bhaiye mein dekhe, oh apne app nu punjabi akhwauna chaunde aa
par yaar oh vi galat ni hege, je punjabi bol sakde aa, je punjab vich rehna pasand karde aa, tan oh jaroor punjabi aa (chahe keh layo ke mere ton vadhke punjabi aa kiyonki mein punjab'ch ni rehnda)

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Gup Shup / Re: Something girl'z Can Do but boy'z Can't Do
« on: September 30, 2008, 05:59:34 PM »
jotty nu khush karna... eh bas ek kudiyan hi kar sakdiyan, munde ni kar sakde

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Gup Shup / Re: eid mubarak pj members
« on: September 30, 2008, 05:58:14 PM »

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News Khabran / Standing Up for the Truth: Narinder Singh
« on: September 28, 2008, 10:33:18 PM »

Standing Up for the Truth

Laugh if you want to, but I began performing comedy to educate Americans about my religion.
By Narinder Singh | NEWSWEEK | http://www.newsweek.com/id/160078

A sign in the back of the comedy club boasted that many of the comics who performed there had also appeared on Letterman and Leno. It was "new talent" night, and I watched people quickly fill the seats. As the show progressed, I was worried that I might be heckled— especially by a group of rowdy boys who laughed sarcastically when jokes failed. When their comedian friend took the stage, some of them got up and roared. I wasn't sure how I would handle the crowd if they shouted over me. When the comic stepped down from the stage, his friends kept yelling his name, even when the emcee tried to tell a joke.

The emcee didn't command any authority. He waited for them to calm down before he introduced me: "Our next comic is very funny. He's a regular American, a slice of Middle America, someone who came right out of 'Leave It to Beaver'."

I tried to take the mike off the stand, but pulled it so hard that the stand toppled over. I caught it just in time and began right away: "Let me explain the turban." I pointed to my head, paused for a second, and widened my eyes and let them roam around the room. "I just came back from an extreme makeover! "When they laughed, I quickly added, "And maaaaan, do I look sexy!"

It didn't go at all smoothly when I began performing stand-up comedy. The slicing sounds of silence in response to my jokes felt emasculating. Afterward, my friends told me that I had rushed my material, and that I was too mild, defanged almost.

I began doing stand-up to educate my fellow Americans about my religion. I wanted to show that Sikhs were not fanatical Muslims. I laced jokes with facts conveying that 99 percent of people with turbans in America were Sikhs, that Sikhism started in India 500 years ago and was now the fifth largest religion in the world. We believed in one God and equality for all, regardless of race, color, gender, religion and caste. But I was not funny.

I started reading books on stand-up comedy. After performing on each new-talent night, I stayed till the end to watch other comics and studied the audience to see how each age group reacted differently. At home I watched professional comedians on Comedy Central for hours and changed my material, making it more biting and provocative.

"A lot of people ask me why I wear a turban," goes one of my jokes. "I tell them it's because it contracepts my vices. But you know what, turbans are great contraceptives … I haven't had sex in five years!"

I became more ambitious. I now wanted to show the entire audience that Indians, Muslims or brown people in general were affable and moderate. Because I received my first couple of threats from Sikhs, I had to convince myself that my fellow Sikhs were in fact also moderate. But it felt strangely exciting reading the verbal barbs posted on my first YouTube clip: I was having an impact.

I e-mailed some of the overzealous Sikhs and told them that I was making fun of prejudice against those who wear turbans, not the turban itself, which seemed even more sacred now. After 9/11, many Sikhs had cut their hair and stopped wearing turbans. The menacing looks and discrimination were too much. Our visible identity in numbers was dwindling in both America and India. Bollywood films had reduced Sikhs to fools and caricatures. In America we were being taken too seriously; in India, not enough. It sometimes made me feel compelled to conform and fit in, too.

But I realized that Sikh symbols, like the turban, were important, just as all religious symbols are. And a symbol can no more be destroyed by humor than a word's meaning can be torn by a paper shredder. The only thing one had to worry about was mitigating one's faith, the act of countering darkness with bare-knuckle punches.

Yet religious symbols don't always serve as a catalyst for truthful living. Wearing one for the sake of wearing it reduces religion to superstition. Sikh society and many others in India remain divided by tribalism, female infanticide and gender discrimination. So many take the religious symbols as garbs and amulets of salvation alone, rather than as a palette to paint understanding and soften the edges.

Still, I completely understood my fellow Sikhs' sensitivity and their fear of being marginalized further. I really didn't mind the death threats and the heckling, as long as I continued not having sex.

Singh lives in Williston Park, N.Y.

© 2008

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G S 22 g tuhadi is gal naal main sahmat nhi. Guru nanak dev g ne te bani ch saaf likhya so kayon manda aakhiye jit jame rajan. Kudiyan nu barabar da haqu dena bahut changi gal aa par ehda matlab eh nhi kee oh nashe karan sharaban peen te road te litan.
Te duji gal jina ladies nu apne religion ch satkar milda ona te kite v nahi.

jadon munde karde, fer sade loki maan di gal karde aa...
maan naal kehnde hunde: "oh yaar rati asin bahut peeti, sarey tulli si"
par je kudiyan peen lag pehn, fer sareyan de pissu pehjande
this is called a double standard

mein fir dohra dinna ke mein sharab peen, te nashey khaan de sakht khilaaf aa... bas ehna kehna chauna ke sanu eh sareya nu kehna chahida, na ke kalliyan kudiyan de magar dande lehke pehjo...

seyane kehnde ne... dusre nu kehn ton pehlan, apni peerhi thalley sota jaroor ferna chahida

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bhavein jo marzi koi kavey...

mein sochda je munde sharab pee sakde aa tan kudiyan vi sharab pee sakdiyan... je munde nashey kar sakde aa, kudiyan vi nashey kar sakdiyan... if you say they can't, you're being hypocritical.... te sade punjabi aurat jaat nu jayada taur te dabba ke hi rakhna chaunde aa... kadey proonh hateya hogayi, kadey kisey gareeb kolon anha dahej mang leya...

par ik gal meri jaroor sunleyo, na menu sharab/nashey change lagde aa, na kisey hor nu sharab/nashey peene chahide aa, kiyonki oh tuhanu apne app nu dhoka dinde aa

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