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« on: April 30, 2010, 05:01:56 PM »
Jhande, I will reply to your post when I have more time. For now, here's a video during Air India 182 Inquiry, Police Officer Don McLean told John Major inquiry into Air India 182 Bombing that Indian Intelligence paid thousands of dollars to Punjabi media to change their propaganda tone in favor of Indian Government.
I'm not vouching for the statement given or supporting anyone, but just sharing a video someone shared.
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« on: April 29, 2010, 07:20:40 PM »
I always make changes when I receive reports like this. I've made 2 changes to slow down search engine traffic, so that our users will be higher priority to our server.
You have to understand that this site has a lot of content, which we've accumulated for 2-3 years. So we get hit pretty heavily. One way to tone it down would be to lock topics that are like 50+ pages long. We will be discussing this amongst administrators.
Jhanda, it is alright. Don't worry about me. I can take it. I'm the only one that can do anything to fix it, so I love to hear the criticism.`
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« on: April 28, 2010, 08:23:33 PM »
expected such replies, administration is useless!
When this topic came about, I had actually made some changes, maybe thats why people said it is fast. Well it's fast right now. We'll see when it gets slow.
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« on: April 28, 2010, 08:19:50 PM »
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« on: April 28, 2010, 12:11:59 PM »
4G is coming out soon. A company, Gizmodo, found a stolen iphone 4g, so we know its coming very soon.
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« on: April 28, 2010, 09:40:50 AM »
The video is private. I cant play it
The person interviewed in this video asked to take it down. We will be uploading an updated edited version of this clip.
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« on: April 27, 2010, 11:16:35 AM »
Din to baad raat, raat to baad din
Jindgi kut rahi hai, Sajna di udeek ch
Jionde haan nain ohde, rahan ch wichaee baithe haan...
Marke vi khule rahinge, mahirma di udeek ch
Khoobsurat sajia ik kamra, udas hai sunsann hai
Aje unlagian, mahiflan di udeek ch
Jiss manzil pauni sikher dupahere, nange pairi tur gaye
Baki baithe reh gaye, chavan di udeek ch
Julam di talwar aage, jihna hikan tanian lad mare,
Ithaas vi rahinda una, shaheedan di udeek ch
Gine chune kujh lok hee, gairat naal jionde ne
Baki din kut jande, kabran di udeek ch
Footpathan te masoom jihe bache, bhukhan bhane baithe ne
Bheekh mangan gayian, mavan di udeek ch
Jangal de rukh vi ta, pal hi jande ne akhir
Oh bhala kud bahinde, malian di udeek ch
Shamshana de gate ta, khule hi rahinde her pal
Parlok nu turian, rahian di udeek ch
Khushian khede vasdian di nishani, theek hai
Gham peedan ta hunde, tute dilan di udeek ch
Din vele ta'n Gurinder, Khid khida ke milda sabh nu
Ron layee rahinda kamla, Chan tarian di udeek ch
-- By Gurinder Surapuri
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« on: April 26, 2010, 12:12:09 PM »
Credit goes to "Lion Heartz Movement" for the video. For more information you can check out their monthly newsletter blog from this link: http://www.lionheartznews.blogspot.com/This is an emotional video, of a true story in which a mother expresses her pain over her daughter falling into the traps of Islamic extremists! A 15 year old girl becomes pregnant by a 25 year old man wanting a passport to stay in the UK. A must watch and please alert other Sikhs. Please Note: By uploading this video, im just trying to make more people aware of what's going on at the present moment. What is being talked about does not apply to all Muslims. Please understand the state of the mother that went through this. -- shared by Harmeet Sohal on Facebook
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« on: April 26, 2010, 01:01:44 AM »
oh wow, loka nu gallan kadh ke wadh ch sorry mang lao and then everything is ok - what messed up reasoning...
It takes a guts to ask for forgiveness. You think if everything was so easy, why don't raman007 and gill_ji just ask sorry, even though they want to get their old ids back. It's because they don't have the courage to. I have countless cases where people just won't be sorry for what they did, even though we prove them that they did wrong. Cases where people do ask sorry are very rare. Like this Velly 13 Jatt asked sorry. After that he was so gracious that he didn't get banned, he mentioned it a couple of times to some sub admin, who then told me about it.
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« on: April 24, 2010, 12:40:59 AM »
Alright, voting closed. KohiNoor won. All your recordings were very nicely done. Rest assured some recordings may be used used on PJ or DholCutz Radio with credit given. If you would actually not want me to do that, just let me know.
Thanks to all for the votes. At first, people doubted how this competition will turn out, and the end result is just WOW. Amazing work and amazing feat.
Here are the votes:
+-------------------+----------------+-------+
| voter | voted | posts |
+-------------------+----------------+-------+
| admin | Kohinoor | 3294 |
| punjabisingh | Billu Bakra | 3071 |
| Desi_Trademark | Sire Di Rakaan | 6936 |
| $$sunny008$$ | Manmohniye | 1327 |
| nikki_heer | Kohinoor | 2806 |
| kerfufle | Kohinoor | 921 |
| sukhbeer | Sire Di Rakaan | 3096 |
| navi0019 | Kohinoor | 2996 |
| rahul2cbz4u | Lado Rani | 5354 |
| Mithi_Kuri | Kohinoor | 1877 |
| Majajeneh | Kohinoor | 11977 |
| Jatt. | Kohinoor | 995 |
| lado_rani | Kohinoor | 7196 |
| pOwerLifter | Ankhi Punjaban | 6848 |
| ji | Grenade Singh | 3870 |
| sweetgirl007 | Sire Di Rakaan | 6443 |
| yaar.punjabi | Sire Di Rakaan | 6 | x
| gidda di jatti | Ankhi Punjaban | 3498 |
| Kairo | Sire Di Rakaan | 4 | x
| sweety.g | Kohinoor | 1 | x
| Jatti09 | Sire Di Rakaan | 2377 |
| Gurcharan | Sire Di Rakaan | 1 | x
| Jasmine Gill | Sire Di Rakaan | 4 | x
| PUNJABI lion | Kohinoor | 2954 |
| PIYA | Grenade Singh | 2487 |
| bibba munda | Sire Di Rakaan | 0 | x
| jaskaran_gill | Ankhi Punjaban | 2337 |
| Ankhi__Punjaban | Ankhi Punjaban | 3131 |
| siyapa | Lado Rani | 0 | x
| Mizz_curiosity | Kohinoor | 1702 |
| Sweet_Desi_kuri | Kohinoor | 471 |
| KohiNoor | Grenade Singh | 519 |
| yaara da yaar | Sire Di Rakaan | 2 | x
| _munda_tere_joga_ | Grenade Singh | 1 | x
| chain$smoker | Sire Di Rakaan | 0 | x
| prince_17 | Kohinoor | 0 | x
+-------------------+----------------+-------+
PS: Votes with x's do not count.
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« on: April 24, 2010, 12:21:30 AM »
odo tak sir te waal ni rahne lolz..kp ne saare jhaarh dene...
ik sama ayuga jado jharh jane, par fer kehda mitran ne thok ke pagh ni bananni... pagh bannda larh chad ke, ni ik sohna malook jeha burha lol
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« on: April 22, 2010, 09:48:09 PM »
Sada vi dil kohinoor hi samjlo lol
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« on: April 22, 2010, 09:38:01 PM »
I'll be out for the weekend at the parade. So don't expect anything from me this weekend.
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« on: April 22, 2010, 09:32:40 PM »
Bro lets just talk about Canada as most of the extermist Talk is going is regarding Canada
News Read - Air India Flight leaving from Canada Blown away in Mid Air by Sikh Extermist group. (Babar Khalsa) killing 329 Ppl with no survivors.
Now the only problem I have is the word "Sikh" used there. And if I am a Sikh I dont want to support this .. Blowing a fight from Canada in mid Air. As I myself as a Sikh Never learned that Killing someone 15000 Km away for the act happened in Amritsar is "Justice".
(Ex - A muslim Group Blew up Twin Towers everyone who support that act is Terriorist, even when in there own terms they are Saving Islam)
Whoever blew up innocent passengers in the Air India flight is a terrorist, no doubt. But from what I've read, nobody was ever convicted in Canadian courts. I don't know if their verdicts were biased, that's up for discussion (but unfortunately I don't know much about this subject). Whoever it may be, people of whatever faith (Sikh or anyone else) that committed this act, they were cowards and terrorists, I'll point that out. A Guru's Khalsa cannot attack an innocent. Second Point
GuruGhar is Noones Living room, till you start treating as Business. If you Follow Jarnail Singh Keep his picture at Home rather than the Gurughar as Gurughar is to follow the Guru- Shri Guru Granth Sahib ji.
Jarnail Singh Picture is not the only one in Gurughar. There are Millions on pictures of “unknown people” who are referred as Matyrs. And I don’t think every one of them is a Sant enough that they earned a respect of having there picture in a Gurughar, Is it? (You might have also heard of accidents when Extermist Groups Beheaded another sikh as he was not wearing a turbine - Happened in my own Village during the roits).. OK Do one thing, Go to the Gurughar and start counting the Pictures. The Sikh Matyrs number will defeat number of Sikh Guru Picture...Why? (why the guru effort is defeated against 1984) And then you put all of them on the Sikh Parade. Why? ...
The reason their pictures are put up again and again is because people deny this ever happened. It's like saying why do Jews put up more pictures of Holocaust victims than of Moses (their prophet). Well, the reason is that they don't want to forget and they want their voice louder than the holocaust-deniers (i.e. people who say the Holocaust never happened). The same reason can be applied here. The more people try to suppress the reality and what has happened to the Sikhs, the more the Sikhs want to bring it to their attention. I think it is in tune with their message to Never Forget 1984, because 1984 has taught a lesson to Sikhs that Indira Gandhi wanted to teach. Yes, I've heard of extremist groups beheading sikhs/hindus/etc for various reasons. And those extremists cannot be Sikhs, because again a person that attacks innocent cannot be a Sikh, it disqualifies their being Sikhs. I'm not defending these wrong-doer extremists at all. I'm only defending of personalities that I've studied (with my small mind). I'm no journalist, I may have been misled by the books I've read, but I've made the effort to identify some facts and what those facts tell me is that the Indian government is not a saint. Where is the Freedom of Speech for the one who "don’t" follow them. Why they are not Listened too, even when there number is higher? - Do this mean they are not allowed in the prade? .... I Take this as Imposing.... the Sikh parade should be fair and according to what the Guru has Set up rather than what a bunch of people think (who themselves are fighting inside the sikh Temples to get the leadership of the Gurughar, ruining Sikh Image).
Appreciating there effort is one thing, Treating them like a Sikh Guru is a different thing.
Everybody has freedom of speech; nothing legally stops a person from carrying a picture of Indira Gandhi throughout the parade. Anybody can do it legally. Although they may face ridicule from the people there, but that is besides the point, because we're talking about how freedom of speech works here. Ideally, the parades should be fair. I think there needs to be either a committee like SGPC that governs such parades that represent Sikh faith, so that we may send a clear message about what we stand for. Nobody is treating Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale or any other martyr as a Guru. Nobody bows in front of them. People salute their courage to stand up to the Indian government. This goes with my first point, that the more people try to suppress that there was ever a figure called Bhindranwale, the more you'll see his posters. This is very sensitive issue I think whatever we will discuss will lead to nowhere....
In my opinion, there is need to be careful from beware of those politicians who use this isseue for their personnal benefits..
I beleive in Naam Japo, Kirat Karo te Wand ke chako..vadu appa sochida nai ihna teena cheeja nu follow karke hi BaBaji di bahut mehr hai...
If there is question of pictures I think all people have their freedon to put any picture ...but picture should depict some constructive message for people but not a destructive one...I think this is not what our Guruji wantd..
The point of my discussion was to understand how Jhanda thinks and explain to him how I think. I try to avoid making judgements as less as I can, but sometimes once in a while I like to express myself. I also believe that sending a positive/constructive message is a very good idea. Thank you for your neutral message, I really appreciate it.
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« on: April 22, 2010, 09:08:59 PM »
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« on: April 22, 2010, 09:08:14 PM »
Here's the case resolved:
"On behalf of Satinder Sartaaj and In the light of above facts we will like to provide a detailed account of the situations that led to this issue. The song Man Kunto Maula which has been circulated on the internet is actually a part of Mehfil at Mahalpur back in 2003. Back then Sartaaj was completing his Ph.D. and hadn’t begun writing on his own on a large scale. The mehfil was a friendly performance by Sartaaj for his friends and he sang couplets by Shri Tarlok Singh Judge and other old respected Punjabi poets. Man Kunto Maula itself is a creation of the great poet Amir Khusro. Man Kunto Maula performed by Sartaaj back in 2003 was a culmination of poetry by many poets. The couplets which contain Sartaaj’s name are his own creations, every other couplet in Man Kunto Maula has come from various poets, one of them being Shri Tarlok Singh Judge. That was a live performance and someone from the audience recorded it and uploaded it online. Last night (Mar 29,2010) Sartaaj did have a detailed discussion with respected Tarlok Singh Judge and he felt honored and obliged talking to the man himself. He did appreciate the fact that Mr. Tarlok was very co-operative and discussed the matter in a gentle manner. He hopes that everything is clear between them now and everything has been sorted out in an amiable fashion. Sartaaj sends his respects and regards to Mr. Tarlok Singh Judge and all Punjabi poets whom he holds in high esteem. There was no malign in signing of Man Kunto maula, no intentions of hurting anyone or stealing the credit. Sartaaj sings for the happiness of everyone and doesn’t intend to hurt anyone. A general note to Sartaaj’s fans: Dosto, all performances are for you, every song and every word is for you. Sartaj is singing and performing for you. A deepest and humble request from his heart is that please stop recording and uploading his performances on internet. Another important fact is that no account on Facebook or Orkut or any other online website/community is an actual account of Sartaaj. They are all run by Sartaaj’s fans, not him directly. The only authentic site is www.satindersartaaj.comIn the end Satinder Sartaaj hopes that all poets will lend their guiding hands for his support in future and all his fans and friends will keep supporting him. -On behalf of Satinder Sartaaj"
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« on: April 22, 2010, 06:51:46 PM »
Alright, let's have this discussion.
Point 1: "Some sikhs glorify violence" (tag line under the video)
I think that is a misstatement, particularly because it's not that Sikhs glorify violence in of itself, it is the revolution that requires violence to happen. Sikhs don't encourage violence; what they do encourage is to stand up for what you believe and if that standing up requires the use of violence, then don't shy away.
Point 2: Dosanjh makes the point that MPs are saying they will only go to the parade if the posters of "terrorists" are not put up, but those same posters are put up in the gurdwaras and we don't do anything about it.
- For one, there is something called freedom of speech. If a person wants to put Hitler's picture in their living room, then they can (at least in the US, that's how it works). But of course putting objectionable content in public can be governed by government.
- The other point I want to make is we put Shaheed Bhai Taru Singh's picture in gurdwaras where his head (khopdi) is getting cut off. He was martyred for not changing his religion. Are we wrong to put his picture in the Gurdwara? In public places? That picture shows "violence". So now I'll take that same example to Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale. Are we wrong in putting his picture up in the gurdwara if a significant amount of people believe that he fought for us? I see a lot of people becoming experts on this subject without reading anything about the man, the situation and the events.
PS: Jhande, I would recommend that you read up on subjects, especially those that you want to criticize publicly. I wanted to tell you this before in the topic about 1984, where you expressed that Sikhs haven't been discriminated against in India. But I never got to respond there. It is one thing to hold an opinion and it is another to use that opinion as a bias to support other statements. I do not have any personal conflict with you, I just wanted to state some of my opinions. You are more than welcome to respond.
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