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Pics / Re: punjabijanta
« on: July 31, 2011, 02:05:09 PM »
chal aaja fer khediye

ik mint pehla eh das tera koi mota takra bhara te nhi haiga kitte o running la ke naal kasete vi :hehe:

kehd kehd ch mera kamm ho javve  :D:

running running at your own risk :loll:

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Gup Shup / Re: Black magic
« on: July 31, 2011, 02:00:37 PM »
kai var nazar lag jandi hundi so pj te aun vele kol koi tutti chappal ya taudi rakhya kro :D: :D:

tavve di kalas laa ke aya karna bai hun te, PJ wale galat karde.

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Pics / Re: punjabijanta
« on: July 31, 2011, 01:57:50 PM »
mai kara tyari fer mai vi vella aa tu dasi yi :hehe:

mai vi aaj tak kuri lai ke kadde nhi bhajjeaa aaaa  :D:

chall ajja dowe running running khed de aa 8->

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Pics / Re: punjabijanta
« on: July 31, 2011, 01:48:31 PM »
acha tenu sang aaundi aa chal fer nhi karda ehna sangeaa na kar tu :hehe:

sangh sangh ch tenu bhajja ke lae jana mae :hehe:

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no . . Xplain :D: umar lukon nal kehdi security mil jandi aa :mean: :hehe:

halle mittar honi discussion mode ch nahi hege, pher kise din dassu :hehe:
 
ajj bai allu de paronthe khilla hi de, raat de bhukhe bethe :pagel:

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Gup Shup / Re: Black magic
« on: July 31, 2011, 01:39:07 PM »
:D: :D: shayd pj ne kita hona

nanhi jehi jaan de dushman banne, sharam karo PJ waleyo :hehe:

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Gup Shup / Re: Black magic
« on: July 31, 2011, 01:38:03 PM »
:hehe:  kabbu te tu fer vi nhi aauna

kehda maayi da laal rok lau sadiya charrta nu :hehe:

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Pics / Re: punjabijanta
« on: July 31, 2011, 01:36:51 PM »
vella nhi o ta mai tere karke aaunda meri chan makhni a :hehe:

tu gal nhi kardi  :happy:

mere nal eddan diya gallan na kareya kar, menu sungh lagdi aa :blush:

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ina purana topic kive chuk lya ? Sirf Apne vichar ni jo overall vichardhara oh v daso

Insecurity! - does that sum it up for ya, enough? :pagel:

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Gup Shup / Re: 1 DAY WITH PERSON ABOVE
« on: July 31, 2011, 01:33:43 PM »
 
 
mae ehdiya gallan pattniya, I feel like he's a little round kid - pyaara bahut hona :hehe:

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Gup Shup / Re: Black magic
« on: July 31, 2011, 01:32:31 PM »
 
 
mere satta bahut lagdiya - ke kise ne mere te jadu tuna kitte?
 
PJ toh te ni kita kise ne - speak up!
 
 
:hehe:

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Gup Shup / Re: Off to NY!
« on: July 31, 2011, 01:30:48 PM »
 
 
Did you visit NY, already?
 
I know cirque de soleil is playing there - I forget the act name, but it's suppose to be good.

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Gup Shup / Re: ik sawal da jawab deo .....
« on: July 31, 2011, 01:28:30 PM »
 
 
enhe sasste amb :surp: te oppero profit vi swaah kita, changi slaah di lodd di onhu :hehe:

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Pics / Re: punjabijanta
« on: July 31, 2011, 01:22:33 PM »
 
 
Je vehle aa tahi PJ te bethe aa, chan makhna :hehe:

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Knowledge / Re: Personality of the Day
« on: July 31, 2011, 02:35:55 AM »
 
Sigmund Freud

 
Chronology:
 
Childhood, School Years  1856 - 6 May: Sigismund Freud is born (to change his name to Sigmund at 22). According to custom, he is also given a Jewish name: Schlomo. His birthplace is Freiberg (nowadays Pribor) in Moravia (the Czech Republic). His father Jacob is 41 and has two children from a previous marriage: Emmanuel and Philippe. Sigismund's mother is 21 and this is her first born.
   
The Birth House of Sigmund Freud
[size=-1]The birth house of Sigmund Freud - Zamecnicka Ulice, 117.
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1859 - The economic crisis ruins Jacob's business. The family settles in Vienna, in Leopoldstadt, the Jewish neighborhood (February 1860). 1865 - Sigmund is admitted to the Gymnasium (secondary school) a year ahead his time. 1870 - He receives Ludwig Borne complete works; reading these books will influence him greatly. 1872 - He returns to Freiberg to spend his holidays. 1873 - He receives a summa cum laudae award on graduation from secondary school. He is congratulated on his style in German. He is already able to read in several languages. Under his colleague's Heinrich Braun influence, he plans to study law but finally decides in favor of medical school, after having attended a lecture on Goethe's essay On Nature. Start his studies at Vienna University. 1874 - While at university, he discovers anti-Jewish prejudices and declares his place is "with the opposition". Attends Brentano's lectures. 1875 - Travels to Manchester, Britain, to see Philippe and his niece Pauline. 1876 - His first personal research in Trieste, on sexual glands of anguilas. Joins Brucke's laboratory. 1877 - Publishes the result of his anatomical research on the central nervous system of a specific larva. 1878 - His research in Brucke's laboratory bring him to a step's distance from the discovery of the neuron (called as such by Waldeyer in 1891). Becomes a friend of Breuer, his 14 years senior, who provides him moral and material support. 1879 - Attends Meynert's courses in psychiatry. His sole interest is the neurological aspect of issues under debate. 1880 - A year of military service. Breuer provides treatment to Bertha Pappenheim (Anna O.). Freud translates 4 essays by Stuart Mills. He is not willing to dedicate himself to medical practice but rather to research or teaching. . 1881 - A delayed award of a doctor's degree in medicine. 1882 - Given the material difficulties he is undergoing, Freud cannot dedicate himself to a career in research. He meets Martha Bernays (of family of Jewish intellectuals) and intends to get married with her. In November, Breuer talks to him about the Anna O. case, which had been interrupted in June. 1883 - Joins Meynert's service in the Psychiatric Hospital. 1884 - Discovers the analgesic properties of cocaine. Carl Koller is the one publishing a successful study in that respect. Freud himself uses cocaine as a tonic but prescribes it to his friend Fleischl who was morphine addicted, thereby aggravating his situation. He is criticized in medical circles. He starts treating "nervous" disorders by means of electrotherapy and applies W. Erb's method. He at the same time devised a method for coloring neurologic preparations (for the microscope) and publishes an article in that respect as well as a monograph on coke. 1885 - Hold a temporary position in a private clinic where hypnosis is used. He destroys all his documents in April. He is appointed Privatdozent, then is awarded a grant for a study tour and chooses to go to Paris, to visit Charcot at the Salpetriere Hospital. He is able to observe the manifestations of hysteria and the effects of hypnosis and suggestion here. Charcot leaves him with special impression. Freud volunteers to translate his lectures.
Childhood:
"My life is interesting only if is related to psychoanalysis", Freud said, giving thus us to understand that the events of his biography are not interesting in a biographer's view, but just his activity on the realm of psychoanalysis. But a different reading of this assertion suggests us something else: the fact that applying Freud's method to the study of the biographical events could bring forward another biography, which less cares about the biographical "truth", but particularly cares about the meaning and significance of the biographical events in the light of Freud's discoveries, among which we should first of all mention Oedipus complex . With Octave Mannoni's words: "The confessions Freud made about his youth are like a derived product of his discovery." (O. Mannoni, "Freud", Du Seuil, 1968)   
Amalia Freud and Sigmund in 1874
[size=-1]Amalia Freud and Sigmund
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Sigmund Freud was born in Freiberg, in Moravia, on 6th of May 1856. People from here were Czechs, but Jewish people were talking German and were mostly assimilated to the Austro-Hungarian ruling class. His father, Jacob Freud, was a textile dealer. He married for the first time when he was seventeen and had two children: Emmanuel and Philipp. After he became a widower, he remarried in 1851 or 1852 with a certain Rebecca, about whom we don't know if she died young or she was repudiated, and for the third time with a young woman of twenty, Amalia Nathansohn (1835 - 1930), whose first child will be Sigmund. He will be succeeded by Julius, who died at eighteen months, Anna, Rosa, Mitzi, Dolfi, Paula and Alexander.   Sigmund Freud inherited from his father the sense of humor, the skepticism before life incertitude, the habit of exemplifying by a Jewish anecdote when he wanted to bring out some moral feature, his liberalism and free thought. From his mother he would have taken "the sentimentalism", an ambiguous word in German, which would mean that Freud was capable of intense emotional feelings.   Freud enjoyed the unrestrained love of his mother, Amalia, who called him "my golden Sigi". This unconditional love will make Freud notice: "When you were incontestably the favorite child of your mother,  you keep during your lifetime this victor feeling, you keep feeling sure of success, which in reality seldom doesn't fulfill".   From the age of eight also comes another remembrance less pleasant that will play an important role in the later victory dream, which the dreamer himself will interpret. The remembrance under discussion put him in a position of humiliating inferiority before his parents.  What's this about: he would have been scolded by his father because he intentionally had urinated in his parents' bedroom and apostrophized by these words: "There will come nothing of this boy!". When he narrates this happening, Freud states precisely that this phrase should have deeply afflicted him "in my dreams the scene often repeated, always accompanied by an enumeration of my works and successes, as if I intended to say: <<You see, nevertheless I became somebody! >>."   Another grievous remembrance: his father took him for a walk and narrated an unpleasant event with a passerby who had apostrophized him: "You, Jew - get down from the sidewalk!" Freud was extremely disappointed when he found out his father hadn't reacted upon the insult of that stranger. "To this scene, which annoyed me - he writes - I opposed another one, more consonant with my feelings, the scene when Hamilcar Barcas asks his son to swear, before the sanctuary, that he'll take his vengeance on the Romans." Hannibal becomes a hero to Freud's view and he reappears under the form of the dreams about Rome in his associations from "The Interpretation of Dreams"(1900), from which we also took out this details. Later on, he presented this happening in the same book, as a resentment motive, which was constantly present. He extracts from this the sources of the feelings that made him identify himself with Hannibal: "Hannibal and Rome - Freud writes at this opportunity - symbolized the opposition between the Jewish tenacity and the organizing spirit of the Catholic Church". Moreover: "the wish to go to Rome became at the delirious level the veil and symbol of many other ardent wishes, which need for their achievement persevering and steadfast hard work... and their fulfillment seems to be as less favored by destiny as was Hannibal's lifetime wish to enter Rome".   When he was four years old, as his father met with a business failure, Freud and his family settled down in Vienna, a noisy and cosmopolitan metropolis, which will sensitively stand in contrast with the lawns and mountains from Moravia, to which Freud will forever feel attached. "Under deep sediments, it continue to live inside myself the happy child from Freiberg... who has received from this air and this earth his first unforgettable impressions", Freud remarked and he will even state precisely: "I 've never felt within my depth in this city [Vienna]. I believe nowadays that I've always regretted the marvelous forests of my childhood, and one of my remembrances evokes me the fact that I used to run as if I wanted to get off from my father, when I was scarcely able to walk..."
"Cocaine Episode"
There is a certain interest in the cocaine episode in Freud's life. The explanation lies in that cocaine belongs to the group of prohibited substances today and sensation mongers imagine Freud's association with cocaine might reveal outrageous private secrets! Freud's personality continues to exert it's fascination to this day, and even to a greater extent than his very work, but public interest is not so much determined by a justifiable desire to know as mostly by the hope to discover a few sensational elements in the master's biography. People imagine that the presence of a cocaine episode in Freud's life could be an indication of a drug addicted Freud. On the other hand, the need to demolish great personalities with a decisive influence on western culture seems to be irresistible. Hence the careful pursuit for biographical details that might prove an active support to this odd need. Freud's relationship with cocaine nevertheless does not satisfy either spicy biographical details mongers or slanderers. The following is an outline of this aspect. * The truth is that Freud was a cocaine user indeed. Only that cocaine was not prohibited during his time, but prescribed and used as an euphoric. The harmful side of the substance had not been discovered yet. The fact that famous beverages such Coca-Cola contained coke extract is quite telling! Cocaine addiction and its harmful effects were only discovered later. Freud therefore used cocaine as a stimulus, something to help him manage his depression, achieve a state of well being, and relax under tense circumstances.   Cocaine also had medical advantages for Freud. He started his research in this field concerning the impact of cocaine on medicine, on minor surgery to be more precise. This is what he himself tells us about his endeavor: "In 1884, a side but deep interest" - Freud mentioned in his biography - "made me have the Merck company supply me with an alkaloid quite little known at the time, to study its physiological effects. While engrossed in this research, the opportunity for me then occurred to make a trip to see my fiancée, whom I had not seen for almost two years. I then quickly completed my investigation on cocaine and, in the short text I published, I included the notice that other uses of the substance will soon be revealed too. At the same time, I made an insistent recommendation to my friend L. Konigstein, an eye doctor, to check on the extent to which the anesthetic qualities of cocaine might also be used with sore eyes. On my return, I found that it was not him but another friend of mine, Carl Koller (now in New York), who, after hearing me talking about cocaine, had in fact made the decisive experiments on animals' eyes and had presented his findings at the Ophthalmology Congress in Heidelberg. That is why Koller has been rightfully considered as the discoverer of cocaine-based local anesthesia, which has become so important in minor surgery..."   A Vienna magazine had indeed published Freud's technical article "On Cocaine" in 1884. The detail of Koller's becoming so reputed in the field is concerned with the following circumstance: Freud had run into a colleague of his who was complaining of intestinal pain and had recommended him a 5% cocaine solution which caused the "patient" a feeling of numbness in his tongue and lips. Koller had witnessed the event and Freud was certain it was then that Koller had found about the anesthetic qualities of the drug.   The fact that Freud had so closely missed scientific celebrity with the publication of his findings about cocaine cannot shroud a tragic event he does not mention in his biography. His research of cocaine effects was also due to a personal reason. He hoped cocaine might help his friend von Fleischl-Marxow, who had become a morphine addict, as result of attempts to soothe the pains inflicted on him by an infection. Nevertheless, his friend's cocaine prescriptions proved fatal. "If only it had soothed his pain", Freud would exclaim in 1885. On the contrary, Fleischl-Marxow died a slow, painful death and the alleged remedy had done nothing but increase his suffering. He had become a cocaine addict, in the same way he had been a morphine addict, and ended in using very large quantities thereof.
Self-Analysis:
Freud's self-analysis started in the mid 1890's to reach its climaxes in 1895 and 1900. In certain authors' opinion, it was continued up to his death in 1939. Nevertheless, we have to set a clear boundary between the time of Freud's discovery of the Oedipus complex and other essential contents of psychoanalysis and routine self-analysis he performed to check his unconscious psychic life.   The first phase is full of unexpected aspects and inventiveness - the productive, creative stage. The second becomes an obligation derived from his profession as a psychoanalyst.   Freud's discoveries during his first stage of self-analysis are known to have been included in two of his main books: "The Interpretation of Dreams" and "The Psychopathology of Everyday Life".   "The Interpretation of Dreams" provides plenty of Freud's dreams in his own interpretation, among which the famous dream of Irma's injection, which he considers a key issue in understanding the mysteries of dream life. It opens Chapter II ("The Method Of Interpreting Dreams: An Analysis Of A Specimen Dream") and provides material for an analysis covering several pages ahead.   Just as Freud himself maintained, the analysis of the dream is not complete but it was here that Freud for the first time asserted that dreams are the disguised fulfilment of unconscious wishes.   The explanation of the dream is quite simple: it tries to hide Freud's lack of satisfaction with the treatment given to a patient of his, Irma, and throw the guilt of partial failure upon others, exonerate Freud of other professional errors.   Dream interpretation also provides a dream psychology and many other issues. The volume is extremely inventive and rich in information, and, in its author's view, it is his most important work.   "The Psychopathology of Everyday Life", offers Freud room to focus on the analysis of faulty and symptomatic actions, the important thing to emphasize here being that this volume represents Freud's transfer from the clinical to normal life - it proves neurotic features are present not only in sickness but also in health. The difference does not lie in quality but in quantity. Repression is greater with the sick and the free libido is sensibly diminished. Therefore, it is for the first time in the history of psychopathology that Freud overrules the difference between pathology and health. That makes it possible to apply psychoanalysis to so-called normal life...
    • Discovery of the Oedipus Complex
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    The discovery of Oedipus' complexis indicated in a historic letter Freud wrote to Fliess, his friend and confidante.
      • I have found, in my own case too, [the phenomenon of] being in love with my mother and jealous of my father, and I now consider it a universal event in early childhood, even if not so early as in children who have been made hysterical. [/l][/l]
      Freud adds a few more important details to his confession:
        • If this is so, we can understand the gripping power of Oedipus Rex, in spite of all the objections that reason raises against the presupposition of fate; and we can understand why the later «drama of fate» was bound to fail so miserably. [/l][/l]
        The Greek legend touches upon an urge "which everyone recognizes because he senses its existence within himself. Everyone in the audience was once a budding Oedipus in fantasy and each recoils in horror from the dream fulfillment here transplanted into reality, with the full quantity of repression which separates his infantile state from his present one." Together with these remarks, essential for psychoanalytic practice and theory, the buds of applied psychoanalysis also emerge. Freud links the Oedipus complex to Hamlet.
          • Fleetingly the thought passed through my head that the same thing might be at the bottom of Hamlet as well. I am not thinking of Shakespeare's conscious intention, but believe, rather, that a real event stimulated the poet to his representation, in that his unconscious understood the unconscious of his hero. (1)[/l][/l]
          In its monograph of Freud's biography, Peter Gay asserts that "The method Freud used in his self-analysis was that of free association and the material he mainly relied upon was that his own dreams provided". But he didn't stop there: "[Freud] also made a collection of his memories, of speaking or spelling mistakes, slips concerning verse and patients' names and he allowed these clues to lead him from one idea to the other, through the "usual roundabouts" of free association."   One of the most beautiful examples of self-analysis can be found in his letter to Romain Rolland, entitled "A Disturbance of Memory on the Acropolis".   The disturbance occurred as follows: In the summer of 1904, after prolonged hesitation, Freud suddenly traveled to Athens in the company of his brother Alexander. Once up on the Acropolis, instead of the expected admiration, he was enveloped by a strange feeling of doubt. He was surprised that something he had been learning about at school really exists. He felt divided in two: one person who empirically realized his actual presence on the Acropolis and the other that found it hard to believe, as if denying the reality of the fact.   In the mentioned text, Freud tries to elucidate this feeling of strangeness, of unreality. He then showed that the trip to Athens was the object of wish mingled with guilt. That was a desire because, from his early childhood even, he had had dreams of traveling expressing his wish to evade the family atmosphere, the narrow-mindedness and poverty of living conditions he had known in his youth.   On the other hand, there was also guilt, as for Freud going to Athens meant getting farther than his own father, who was too poor to travel, to uneducated to be interested in these places. To climb the Acropolis in Freud's mind was to definitely surpass his father, something the son was clearly forbidden to. Let us resort to Freud's own words:
            • But here we come upon the solution of the little problem of why it was that already at Trieste we interfered with our enjoyment of the voyage to Athens. It must be that a sense of guilt was attached to the satisfaction in having gone such a long way: there was something about it that was wrong, that from earliest times had been forbidden. It was something to do with a child's criticism of his father, with the undervaluation which took the place of the overvaluation of earlier childhood. It seems as though the essence of success was to have got further than one's father, and as though to excel one's father was still something forbidden. ("A Disturbance of Memory on the Acropolis".) [/l][/l]
            Fliess' friendship certainly provided Freud the dialectic relationship that psychoanalytic dialogue (or rather monologue) allows. Fliess was the "idealized other", the one who supposedly knew and understood (even appreciated) the analyst's efforts. In fact, self-analysis is of course only possible by projection.   In his letter of November 14th 1897, Freud wrote: "Self-analysis is impossible in fact. I can only analyze myself by means of what I learn from the outside (as if I were another). Were things different, no disease would have been possible otherwise but through projection".
              • The Difference between Self-analysis and Introspection
              [/list] The practice of introspection has its origins in St. Augustus' Confessions. It is thus defined as an analysis of our mind's contents that are directly accessible and ethical in character as it launches a debate on the relationship between moral man, which he longs to be, and immoral man, which he is by birth.   Augustin does not understand dreams and thinks it is God who is responsible for their emergence. There is no trace here of any knowledge of the unconscious mind, of the way it works works. This is the field of Christian psychology which only assumes a horizontal dimension of analysis.   Self-analysis does not deal with known things any more. Having known facts as a starting point, the self-analyser goes deep into the world of his unconscious life and leaves aside the ethic criterion for a while. Conscious psychic manifestations are connected to their unconscious roots and can be explained through the latter.   In this self-analysis God vanishes and with him the guilt of the self-analyser. Moreover, the investigation of unconscious needs resorting to the special investigation methods psychoanalysis has introduced: free associations, dream-analysis, work with slips and symbols, etc. In short we may say that whereas introspection does nothing else but (re)integrate us into the level of our social values, psychoanalytic self-analysis offers us the opportunity of a radical change in our inner and outer being from the perspective of a reevaluation of these social values
               

               
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              3036
              Discussions / Rab da Naam
              « on: July 31, 2011, 02:00:21 AM »
               
              Mae bahut lok dekhe ne ke appne app nu bahut rabb nal juddeya ja manno saaf dassde ne. Ke assi har roj gurdware jande aa, paath karde aa. Ke ehi lok jo path karde ne te gurdware jaande aa ke otho kuch sikheya vi lae paunde aa ja phir dikhawa hi aa? Kiyoon ke enha hi lokan toh kayi baar dekheya ke mann ch paap rakhde ne/wish ill upon the others, whereas no religion in the world teaches anyone to do so.  Religion de naam te fights karde ne, innocent lokan di jaan lende ne. Ke ehe sahi aa, ke koyi vi religion da God kahu ke mae dujje religions toh vadda and those religions should be disintegrated to prove my superiority? Ja ke tuada religion tuanu sikhaunda ke tuada hi religion sabh toh wadha and every other religion is just another peck of dust?
               
              If you've given some thought to some of the above questions, then proceed to think, why is there so much chaos in the world today, in the name of religion?
               
              Is it really religion or do we play out our own inferiorty complex to prove ourselves?
               
              Note: the above allegations aren't towards anyone particular, just stated to prove a point. This discussion is based on religion alone, not on Sikhism or any other particular religion.

              3037
              Complaints / Re: murakh admin sarpanch
              « on: July 31, 2011, 01:45:35 AM »
               
               
              enough said, jihde baare complaint si, that's resolved, hor behans karan di koyi lodd ni.
               
              -locked.

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              Complaints / Re: murakh admin sarpanch
              « on: July 31, 2011, 01:03:16 AM »
               
              User BACHITER SINGH - unbanned. According to GS's rules, no user is to be banned in any other room except  Mitra Da Dera. Te Jehdi PJ Sarpanch ne editing kiti, oh chat log te spoiler add kita ta editing aa rahi, taa ki baaki de users nu nonsense na padhni pawe.
               
              Bakki Bahicter siha, sarpanch nu te murakh keh reha, tenu kini ku akal aa, oh chat log ta saaf zaahir aa.

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              Kasoor kise da ni hunda. Kasoor hega generation gap da. Jehde samey ch apne parents te appan palle hunde bahut wadda difference hunda. Parents think according to how they were raised and want to raise their kids in such manner. When the truth is times have quite changed and they need to learn to adapt while still holding true to their values. Te bachiya nu vi samjhana chahida, akhir they're your parents, they have obtained enough experience ke tuanu oh galat te sahi vich guide karan sakan and we need to respect that. Moving forward, certain comprimises and understanding has to take place for things to workout.
               
              I have also noticed, speaking from a western stand point, ke how much time can parents really provide for their kids. They work 8 hours a days - so, an outsider pretty much ends up raising their kids. Even when kids get older, how much time can parents really give them, they come home tired, do they really give/can they give quality time to their kids? They get to spend a couple hours of time with their kids a day - how much do you really end up teaching them, what they learn from comes from an outside focus and the kids don't necessarily get to adapt to their parents values.

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              making a plan is easy but executing is another story - as long as you have the financial and the will power to do it, any small business can flourish. To what kind of business you want to run has to come in from with-in, which would actually motivate you to get things done, rahter than to chase it to on the pure basis of profit.

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