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Jokes Majaak / Re: noxi and baba ramdev...
« on: March 23, 2011, 12:09:26 AM »
:laugh: :D:

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Funny Videos / Re: ha ha ha ha
« on: March 22, 2011, 03:24:35 PM »
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ya ya mere dimag ch eh idea ni aya

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Funny Videos / ha ha ha ha
« on: March 22, 2011, 02:07:37 PM »
w.w.f Giani fighting

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Jokes Majaak / Re: (NEWS)Pendu in Action
« on: March 22, 2011, 09:48:55 AM »
baba ramdev nu join te kar leinde aa, per me joga juga nahi karna...  :happy:
baba ji je joga ni karna ta bhajna kar lyo :laugh:

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Love Pyar / Re: true wording
« on: March 22, 2011, 09:45:43 AM »
bilkul sahi e ji

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Gup Shup / Re: did you know that....-ki tuhanu patta c...
« on: March 22, 2011, 09:29:19 AM »
did u no that bcoz of hoover dam the length of the day is reduced 1/8000000 sec in last 40 years.

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Gup Shup / Re: Psycho-Test. ......
« on: March 22, 2011, 09:21:10 AM »
it was nt close ur mind is closed read that again ha ha ha ha

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Gup Shup / Re: Psycho-Test. ......
« on: March 22, 2011, 01:48:45 AM »
i though may be he was her sister's bf so she killed her sis to be with him. . . . . .

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Fun Time / Re: nakhro (kk)
« on: March 22, 2011, 12:39:29 AM »
digi taan tu muh parne c lat te kidan lag gai  :omg:
               mere kol rondi rondi aye se latt mae todd dete :D:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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Gup Shup / Re: did you know that....-ki tuhanu patta c...
« on: March 22, 2011, 12:22:12 AM »
did u know that if all people leave to use their vahicals for only 40 days it will save 2.5 millon galon fuel.

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Jokes Majaak / Re: Pj da school..
« on: March 22, 2011, 12:00:17 AM »
:laugh: sari class badi hushyar aa bai ha ha ha ha te class di bhainji ne v pind de daliye vale skool to ma kiti lagdi aa :laugh:
Bai bohut vda dimag a sari class da ha ha ha gadhe jina vda e.

Kamli kuri da bhana dekh lao ha ha ha ha
Vadia aa thoda sara skool principal sahb

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Religion, Faith, Spirituality / Re: Chaurasi Lakh Joon Upai
« on: March 21, 2011, 09:49:54 AM »
bohut hi vadia topic e ji rabb bhla kre thoda

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News Khabran / Re: PTC Punjabi Music Awards 2011 Winner
« on: March 20, 2011, 02:49:27 PM »
yeaaaaahooooo mere fav waris te sartaj :balle:

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Funny Videos / cute bazoora tawan mama
« on: March 20, 2011, 09:42:27 AM »
Emerson - Mommy's Nose is Scary! (Original)

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Lok Virsa Pehchaan / Re: JUGNI KAUN E ?
« on: March 20, 2011, 12:58:04 AM »
jugni punjaben c yr tusi greji boli jane o kus diyan rakho punjabi ta pehlla he khunje laggi pai a
ha ha0ha ha sade angry jang man ji mai eh post karn vele e sochya c k tuc jroor eh tippani kroge bt bai ji eni translation karni aukhi e ji mai duty te aa soory ji ha ha ha

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Lok Virsa Pehchaan / Re: JUGNI KAUN E ?
« on: March 20, 2011, 12:41:01 AM »
Jugni is an age-old narrative device used in Punjabi folk music and sung at Punjabi weddings in Pakistan, India, US, Canada, Australia and UK. The word means 'Female Firefly', in folk music it stands in for the poet-writer who uses Jugni as an innocent observer to make incisive, often humorous, sometimes sad but always touching observations. In spiritual poetry Jugni means the spirit of life, or essence of life. The late Legendary Alam Lohar (Punjab, Pakistan) and late Singer & Humorist Asa Singh Mastana (Punjab, India) are credited with popularizing this poetry from early sufi spiritual writings and then subsequently later on it was transformed by other singers as a female girl just like prefixes like Preeto.

Much of early Jugni writing is spiritual in nature and relates to one's understanding of the world and one's relationship with God. Many poet philosophers have used the Jugni device, which is in the public domain, to make social, political or philosophical, often mildly subversive, commentary. Jugni is cross religious and depending on the writer, invokes the name of God (often using the word "Saeen", the vernacular word for Lord), Ali or the Gurus. A kernel of truth is an essential and integral part of every Jugni composition.

The narrative style relies on Jugni landing up unexpectedly in diverse places and, wide-eyed, learning something new. Jugni makes her comments in three or four well wrought verses which may or may not rhyme but can always be sung in a rudimentary Punjabi folk style. The object could be a city, a state, a market place, a school, a religious place or a saloon, Jugni's non-malicious commentary catches the essence of the place and produces in the listener a chuckle and sometimes a lump in the throat. Alam Lohar is the writer or introducer of this term from reading Baba Bulleh Shahs writing, in a spiritual sufi theme.



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Lok Virsa Pehchaan / Re: JUGNI KAUN E ?
« on: March 20, 2011, 12:35:19 AM »
Definitions of Jugni on the Web:
Jugni is an age-old narrative device used in Punjabi folk music. While literally it is the "female firefly", in folk music it stands in for the poet-writer who uses Jugni as an innocent observer to make incisive, often humorous, sometimes sad but always touching observations. ...

(neck ornament of several strands of pearls with a central pendant)
so first definition looks more authentic :happy:

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Lok Virsa Pehchaan / Re: JUGNI KAUN E ?
« on: March 20, 2011, 12:33:05 AM »
i don't no which one is right . Also heard the first one from well known soofi singer hans raj hans. :lost:

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Lok Virsa Pehchaan / Re: JUGNI KAUN E ?
« on: March 20, 2011, 12:27:38 AM »

Originally Published in Punjabi Tribune 24th Sept 2005.
The popularity of Jugni has always touched the hearts of Panjabi mentality. She became a permanent part in the Panjabi folklore right since the ancient times. But who is Jugni? Nobody ever tried to find the veracity and because of it's simple Jugni-stanzas and simple versification, academic scholars never cared.
Jugni-poetry and Jugni-music took birth a century ago in 1906. Before that time, nowhere do we find any mention of her in history or the folk memory.
Jugni-poetry and Jugni-music was created by two folk singers and most probably its creation was accidental. These folk singers were Bishna and Manda. They were from Majha area and whatever I heard about them is as written below.
According to the late Pandit Diwan Singh, a resident of Khadur Sahib, Manda was a Muslim Mirasi. His village was Hasanpur, Thana Vairowal in Amritsar District. His real name was Mohammad but he was popular with his name Manda. Nobody knows anything about his family.
Bishna was also from Majha and was from a Jatt family. Nobody knew about his background untill 1969 when was asked from a freedom fighter Baba Makhan Singh of village Dhathi Jaimal Singh, he told that their stages were seen a couple of times in Patti and Kasur. Their favourite topics were Mirza and Tappe but they invented Jugni in 1906.
Baba Makhan Singh told that in 1906 when both of them were youths, the British brought Jugni to India. When I asked that how British brought Jugni and what was Jugni, Baba Ji's answer was that English Queen's rule was over 50 years at that time. British ruled several parts of the Planet Earth and they thought that they should take a Torch to whole of their Empire. That flame of the Torche was itself Jugni which was taken from city to city in every country under British rule.
Baba Makhan Singh said that that flame was put in a big gold utensil and was taken to the every headquarter of the districts. Wherever Jugni was taken big celebration were observed by the Govt. In all those shows Bands, Police department, army, Zaildars,high officials and high society people visited. In these shows Manda and Bishna also held their stage.
When Baba Makhan Singh was all explaining this, then a nearby person who looked a bit more educated, interrupted that English didn't bring Jugni-flame. In fact it was Jubilee which illiterate Bishna and Manda pronounced as 'Jugni'.
From that gentleman's interruption suddenly the mystery of the word 'Jugni' was found that the word 'Jugni' took birth from the english word Jubilee. It is clear that in 1906 the Jubilee flame was taken everywhere under the rule of Queen Victoria at her 50th anniversary on the throne.
This Jubilee flame was taken to every main city and at the district headquaters celebrations and festivities took place under the charges of DC. On these festivals, Bishna Jatt and Manda Mirasi held their stage where they sang their own composed stanzas of Jugni with the instruments of Dhad and King. Because of the simplicity and easy versification, these verses of Jugni became so popular very soon that many other people started versification of Jugni Verses.
Wherever we find a 'Jugni-Verse' there we must find some city's, village's, and palce's name. Wherever Jubilee-flame of the English rulers went Bishna and Manda also went to those places and put their small stage somewhere near the big festivals to perform. Their one original 'Jugni-verse' is like this:
Jugni jaa varhi Majithe
koi Rann na Chakki peethe
Putt Gabhru mulak vich maare
rovan Akhiyan par Bulh si seete
Piir mereya oye Jugni ayi aa
ehnan kehrhi jot jagaee aa
This 'Jugni's poetic style and versification later became a traditional method and started taking much more in it's clasp but the beginning of 'Jugni' always remained in some city or place:
Jugni jaa varhi Ludhiane
Uhnun pai ge Anne Kaane
Maarn mukkian mangan Daane
Piir Mereya Oye! Jugni kehndi aa
Jehrhi naam Ali da laindi aa
Manda and Bishna were already used to take part in fesivals of Patti, Kasur, Ajnala and other towns of Majha region. Their Akhara or stage performance was famous. Manda used to play the instrument of Dhad and Bishna played the King. Singing performance was always together. They sometimes had composed stanzas at right while performing. If someone gave them a Rupee, they had composed a stanza linking the donor and his village's name.
'Jugni' Jubilee flame went from city to city and Bishna and Manda followed. Their popularity also rose to the great level by time. In those days while the movement for freedom didn't rose but in the mind of the masses anger was there. On many places faminines spead and droughts came. Public was illiterate and the rulers were cruel. So it was sure that the agony and sufferings the public suffered came in their stanzas.
The stanzas of English rule's criticism and their tyranny were also composed. These new stanzas became so popular in public that now the rulers could not tolerate. Government started banning Bishna and Manda's shows. Then Bishna and Manda started performing at some distance from the Jubilee festivals but they gathered huge crowds there too and many time police lathi-charged those gatherings. In those of their shows, people started talking frankly against the English rule on India and their atrocities, had been coming back while singing 'Jugni' in revolutionary manner.
Sorrowful End
From city to city 'Jugni' alais Jubilee went, Bishna and Manda followed, hugh crowed gathered. Anger against the English rule's opression rose, public got more restless. In the same manner when Jubilee functions in the city of Gujaranwala became insipid against the Bishna and Manda's stage, irritated police arrested and tortured them both to death. It is said that police buried them both in the middle of night in some unknown cemetery.
Canes of police had make them mum but their 'Jugni' is still there in every city and will remain in the hearts of the people of this sub-continent forever. It comes in mind that something should be done in the memory of these two ignored and forgotten martyrs, some monument should be made.'Jugni' itself is a great memorial of these two worthy artists in the hearts of million but the monuments in the honour of Victorian jubilee are there in V.J. Hospital ( Victoria Jubilee ) in Amritsar and Victoria Terminal in Bombay which remind us the cruelity which faced generations and wiped the creators of Jugni.
We don't find any information about the family or siblings of this pair of singers. Neither of them got married in their life time. In 1906 both of them were around the age of 50. Punjab and Punjabis have yet to thank these two great.

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Help & Suggestions / Re: need help
« on: March 19, 2011, 01:09:59 PM »
hok hok thankas

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