hahaha good one!

Hey mr. Copy and Paste is back... nice to see your putting some of your own sentences together these days.

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DID YOU GUYS SEE IT? HEAR IT?!!!!!!!! WE JUST WON THE ANBL CHAMPIONSHIP!  =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> :dumlak: :dumlak: :dumlak: :dumlak: :dumlak: :dumlak:  COULDN'T HAVE DONE IT WITHOUT BRUTON, PENNEY AND WILKINSON.  :won: :won: :won: :won: :won: :won: :won: :won:  WE'VE GOT THE BEST BASKETBALLERS IN THE SUBANTARCTIC!

I really wish I knew what you were talking about. But either way YAY YOU WON!! WOOT!

:lost: :wait: :waitin:  Right. Yeah it's anbl and there's 1 kiwi basketball team playing. And we just won it, which is pissing the aussies off because it's an australian basketball league!  :D:  in order to win the anbl, we had to play against all the aussie basketball teams so you can imagine.

Congratulations! Has it been a while since they've won? Have they ever won before? o.O

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That comes to the point I've talked about in a different thread. Your generalizing a whole religion based on a few people. Your basically saying ALL hindus, muslims, etc when you mention a religion. That's just being stereotypical. I'm not for any religion but how can you say every person from that religion is the same way? For example, Osama Bin Laden is muslim, AL-Queda is a muslim terrorist organization so does that mean every muslim is a terrorist? No and if you think they are thats just wrong. I think that every religion has its extremists and people who put other religions down. Yes at a certain point many people conducted heinous crimes using religion but that time was different. People were more ignorant back then, now people are smarter and understand different religions. With the help of the internet, television, and even growing diversity everywhere people are more knowledgeable. I myself personally have seen peace and unity between religions, living in a diverse neighborhood in NY. My neighbors are Muslim, the tenant who lives in the apartment below me are Sikh and there are a few Hindu families across the street. We all live happily. I have friends from every religion, we've all been to Mosques, Mandirs, Gurdwaras and Chruches. Not once have a seen any type of hatred towards us when it was obvious we weren't from that religion.   
 
 So finally, I believe there isn't any religion that promotes violence or hatred. The hatred is built by politics or by individuals who use past events to brainwash people. So my advice is to everyone is there is no point on fighting about religion, every religion promotes the same thing and stop using religion as an excuse for your dumb actions.

 
 NYPuNJaBI Veer Ji, regarding your above post. I am going to assume that it is a response to my earlier post 61. I’ll apologise in advance if it isn’t.

However, before you go calling me dumb I will remind you that you haven’t actually answered any of my questions. I am not and haven’t said anything of the sort that you mention in your post at all. Where did I say that all Hindus or all Muslims are bad? Also where did I say that all Muslims are terrorists?

I am not generalising anything. I asked you if the basic ideology behind a religion is expansionist then surely it follows that a minority faith would suffer at the hands of a majority which has an ethos based on expansionism. Not only does history show us this but the present in various parts of the world also shows us this.

As to your neighbourhood; I am not here to criticise you or your neighbourhood. It is all very well talking about the comforts of New York and all but what of the millions of people around the globe who do not enjoy the luxuries you enjoy?, luxuries such as an education? Millions of people do not have such access to education. Just because you live “happily” it does not mean everybody is in the same happy club. Please note: I am not trying to be rude here.

I think you are not really recognising real facts. I suggest you consider the events in Bosnia Hertsegovina, Croatia, Romania, Darfur, Pakistan, India, Malaysia, the Catholic/Protestant problem in Northern Ireland but to name a few. All of those areas are still troubled by religious conflict as well as human rights abuses by the majority religions on the minority religions. We are not talking about the past, we are talking about today. Don’t forget Palestine and Israel, although it is slightly different but an element of religion is involved. What I will say to you is this, if religion teaches tolerance then why is there the death penalty for apostasy in Islam? Isn’t that violence? In some countries religious laws enforce public stoning of women, isn’t that violence? In some countries it is legal for an adult man to marry a 9 year old child, isn’t that violence? In some countries it is not possible to have a Church or a Gurdewara in the entire country. In some countries a Nishan Sahib can not be higher than a dome on top of a Mosque. The punishment for which could be 100 lashes. Isn’t that violence?

I would also suggest to you that Sikhs in India have a grievance, by ignoring them we do not do them justice. I also refute your "my religion is better" falsehood.

Yes, it was towards your post sorry for not quoting it. I would like to apologize first if you thought what I said about being dumb was directed towards you, it wasn't toward anyone here. Next I believe I misunderstood your message let me try to answer it again to the best I can.
You talk about the oppressing faith being an expansionist faith, but isn't that leaning more radical/extremist parts of the faith? How would  you define an expansionist faith? An entire faith oppressing other faith in order to grow larger or part of faith oppressing the other in order to expand? I would think an entire faith can't follow the policy of expansionism, I think only the radical/extremist part of a faith can be expansionist. To answer your question, I don't think the basic theology is expansionist. I don't think any faith was originally created to be expansionist, but I do believe radical followers have changed that view.

Lol you comment like I live under a rock or something. Of course I know everyone isn't the same way, I was just saying that it is possible for people from different faiths to live happily. My parents were in India when certain troubles happened, they've experienced such hate. I'm not as oblivious as your making it sound.

I agree with you that there are many religious conflicts/human right abuses are occurring currently. But I still don't think that those conflicts are caused by religion. I think the violence is caused is by extremists, politics and ignorant people. So many religions are open to interpretation that people can bend it to make in violence look likes its part of the faith. For example you mentioned apostasy, I don't deny it is prohibited in Islam but many people would argue that a punishment for such an act was never specified.
So what I'm saying is since religion itself is so controversial, people can go on forever on whose right or wrong.

Finally, I never said we should ignore the Sikhs in India. Of course we should stop such conflicts, even with the exclusion of religion just as a human being. However, all I'm saying is you can't speak against a whole religion though some of its followers are the ones causing the conflict.

Just my view =/ Hope you see my point of view.
 

Never? lol
Last time you went to the mall?

Never... I don't fall..I'm Batman. lol Watch me fall as soon as I write this.
When was the last time you watched a childhood cartoon?

Hmm 2 weeks ago?
Last time you drank alcohol?

I never said it wasnt!

I would go with piratebay, it has some good things.

That comes to the point I've talked about in a different thread. Your generalizing a whole religion based on a few people. Your basically saying ALL hindus, muslims, etc when you mention a religion. That's just being stereotypical. I'm not for any religion but how can you say every person from that religion is the same way? For example, Osama Bin Laden is muslim, AL-Queda is a muslim terrorist organization so does that mean every muslim is a terrorist? No and if you think they are thats just wrong. I think that every religion has its extremists and people who put other religions down. Yes at a certain point many people conducted heinous crimes using religion but that time was different. People were more ignorant back then, now people are smarter and understand different religions. With the help of the internet, television, and even growing diversity everywhere people are more knowledgeable. I myself personally have seen peace and unity between religions, living in a diverse neighborhood in NY. My neighbors are Muslim, the tenant who lives in the apartment below me are Sikh and there are a few Hindu families across the street. We all live happily. I have friends from every religion, we've all been to Mosques, Mandirs, Gurdwaras and Chruches. Not once have a seen any type of hatred towards us when it was obvious we weren't from that religion.   

So finally, I believe there isn't any religion that promotes violence or hatred. The hatred is built by politics or by individuals who use past events to brainwash people. So my advice is to everyone is there is no point on fighting about religion, every religion promotes the same thing and stop using religion as an excuse for your dumb actions.