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« on: June 04, 2011, 11:45:08 PM »
baba ramdev got 1100 crore di property and so many crrupt ppl gave him donation (black money) aap chor lokka kolo black money lainda donation vich and galla karda black money di :D: nice to see tht
bro daan den te kise nu koi pabndi nhi hei and baba daan len lgeya parchi v kat k dinda te os to elawa babe da apna bussines v hei hun daaniya da peisa kitho aunda ehe ta babe di jimedari nhi hei infact baba ta daan lei k black money nu v white kr reha te jehde akh marda oh vakhre :woried:
billiya nu chuheya de supney :hehe:
642
« on: June 04, 2011, 11:21:45 PM »
[size=inherit]Baba Ramdev refuses to call off his fast, says govt betrayed him
[/size]baba ramdev on Saturday began an indefinite fast against blackmoney but by the end of the day he was in a tight corner after government released a letter from his aide that he would call off the agitation by mid-day.
As talks failed, the two sides blamed each other of having gone back on their commitments and ramdev accused the government of "betrayal and cheating".
Union Minister Kapil Sibal's release of the letter by Acharya Balkrishan, Ramdev's key aide, led to attack by the Yoga Guru that government was indulging in "betrayal and cheating" and that he would now only go by any word from Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, whom he still respects.
The dramatic development came as Ramdev first announced that he would be giving the "good news" of ending the agitation but quickly went back on it after Sibal made public the letter at a press conference also attended by another Union Minister Subodh Kant Sahay.
In a stick-and-carrot message, Sibal said that the government has honoured all its commitments and that Ramdev had a mis-apprehension when he questioned the setting up of a committee on making a law to deal with blackmoney menace.
Ruling out issuing an ordinance on the issue, the minister, who held negotiations with Ramdev on Friday, made a veiled threat that the government that has "always reached out can also rein in".
"If we are accommodative, we can also be firm," he said adding that negotiations cannot be taken as a sign of weakness.
Taken aback by government's aggression, Ramdev threatened to continue his fast till his three demands -- declaring blackmoney as national asset, enacting a law to confiscate blackmoney along with stringent punishment and surveillance on those visiting tax havens abroad.
Ramdev came under severe questioning by media as to why he did not disclose since Friday that there was an understanding to this effect that he would call off the fast after Government's written assurance on three of his demands.
"You kept the faithful, media and the nation in the dark," was one of the several questions hurled at an uneasy Ramdev who at one point conceded that the reason that he did not announce the understanding on Friday was because people would have left.
However, he quickly hastened to add that government would show its "thumb" to his movement and do nothing about his demands.
"Kapil Sibal is a liar. I will never talk to him in my life-time," Ramdev said adding that he still reposed faith in the Prime Minister and would go by his decision.
The sudden turn of events started with Sibal releasing Balkrishan's letter which gave Ramdev's "consent" to call off the agitation once the government gave a written assurance of fulfilling his demands within a time frame.
Replying to a barrage of questions, Ramdev said the letter was given after the ministers "pleaded" that this letter was only meant for Prime Minister to show that his fast was not going to be indefinite and that he was not aiming at destabilising the government.
Ramdev claimed the ministers had sought the letter as the government had suffered a huge embarrassment after its decision to send four senior ministers to meet him at the airport on June 1 for discussions.
However, he did not appear convincing in his replies as media grilled him on the letter and its non-disclosure. At one point, he cautioned a reporter to remain within "limits" when the scribe asked him about the funding of his agitation.
Sibal told the press conference that he talked to Ramdev over phone to assure him that government was committed to framing a law and the setting up of a committee is a process towards it.
He however made it clear that there was no possibility of issuing an ordinance in this regard.
Sibal said the government will send to Ramdev in writing that its assurance of setting up of a committee is a commitment towards framing of a law.
Defending the decision to make public the communication, government sources said Ramdev was frequently changing positions and they had to "call the bluff".
Sources said Ramdev's camp had made a commitment to call off the strike by 4 pm and when it did not happen, then they had to categorically tell him that they were going to release the letter.
Sources also said Ramdev was making fresh demands everyday and many of the issues he raised later were not in the communication sent to the government.
Ramdev told reporters that they were pressurising him to sign the letter but he did not do so and asked the General Secretary (Acharya Balkrishna) to do so.
"They told us that they want to show to the Prime Minister that I have given a commitment that I will call of the strike in two days."
The sources said they had taken the letter to convey to the government that he had given a commitment to call-off the strike.
Early in the morning, Ramdev started his protest with bhajans and his signature yoga sessions before embarking on the hunger strike.
The appearance of fire-brand sadhvi Rithambara raised the hackles of civil society activists of Hazare camp and Congress which alleged that RSS and VHP were fully behind the agitation.
Hazare, who had two days ago announced that he would join Ramdev at Ramlila Maidan tomorrow, was non-committal on the issue today. He said he would go to Delhi on Sunday and take a call on joining the protest.[/size]
643
« on: June 04, 2011, 02:07:12 AM »
yaar ik do id's apa hi bna layiye kudiyan diyan ,chit lagga rahu ga :D:
:D: :D: :D:
644
« on: June 04, 2011, 02:05:38 AM »
majnu ,ehda nhi kuj ho sakda ,eh tan kudi nu kadu likh dinda aa :D: :D: :D:
:happy: :happy:
645
« on: June 04, 2011, 02:01:52 AM »
manju :D: :D: :D:
646
« on: June 04, 2011, 01:40:27 AM »
ਏਹਦੇ ਉੱਤੇ ਪੰਜਾਬੀ ਦੇ ਭਾਰੇ ਭਾਰੇ ਸ਼ਬਦ ਸੁਟੋ ਤਾ ਹੱਸਦਾ ਏਹ੍ਹ :blah:
:D: :D: :hehe:
:D: :D: :D:
647
« on: June 04, 2011, 01:39:15 AM »
:D:
:hehe:
ਨਜ਼ਰ ਨਾ ਲੱਗ ਜਾਵੇ
na na veer j koi nazar lauga ta meinu dasi
648
« on: June 04, 2011, 01:37:43 AM »
ik tan tainu khush kerna bahut aukha aa :blah:
veer teri khushi lai hun appa khush ee reha krna bs tu khush chahida
649
« on: June 04, 2011, 01:35:49 AM »
:hehe:
wah wah sdke jaiye thode pyar de
650
« on: June 04, 2011, 01:31:20 AM »
ਸੰਚਾਲਕ ਜੀ ਤੁਸੀ ਖ਼ੁਸ਼ ਰਹੋ
:D: :D: :D:
651
« on: June 04, 2011, 01:30:15 AM »
aho veer ,vich likheya tan hoyeya chatrik
ta he ta pucheya c mama oda saanu kithe ptta lgda :D: :D: :D:
652
« on: June 04, 2011, 01:24:48 AM »
veer j jeyada ee punjabi da shok aa ta english di maa bhen na ik kreya kr :he:
orgenisr nu punjabi vich sngathnkrta kehnde aa :happy:
653
« on: June 04, 2011, 01:21:40 AM »
ਤੁਰਨ ਲੱਗਿਆਂ ਨਾਲ ਨਾ ਤੁਰੇ ਦੌਲਤ
ਸਾਰੇ ਭਰੇ ਖਜ਼ਾਨੜੇ ਧਰੇ ਰਹਿੰਦੇ
ਜਿਨਾਂ ਬੀਜਿਆ ਬਦੀ ਦਾ ਬੀਜ ਖੋਟਾ
ਨਾਗ ਦੁੱਖਾਂ ਦੇ ਉਹਨਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਲੜੇ ਰਹਿੰਦੇ
ਚਾਤਿ੍ਕ ਨੇਕੀਆਂ ਜਿਹਨਾਂ ਨੇ ਕੀਤੀਆ ਨੇ
ਲੋਕੀਂ ਉਹਨਾਂ ਦੇ ਪੂਜਦੇ ਥੜੇ ਰਹਿੰਦੇ
veer ehe kite lala dhani raam chatrik ji kwita ta nhi koi ?  :
654
« on: June 04, 2011, 01:17:25 AM »
ਤੂੰ ਬਾਈ ਉਰਗਨਾਜਰ =D> =D> =D>
mein baai oh nhi hega jo tu kehna ਉਰਗਨਾਜਰ appa hege aa aam jnta
655
« on: June 04, 2011, 01:14:14 AM »
aaho chor chori se jaaye seena zor to nhi htda hunda
656
« on: June 04, 2011, 01:13:09 AM »
:superhappy: :superhappy: :superhappy: ਪੀਜੇ ਪੰਜਾਬੀ ਪਾਰਟੀ :superhappy: :superhappy: :superhappy:
ਪੰਰਧਾਨ :ਦਿਲ ਦਰਿਆਵਾਂ ਵਰਗਾ(rajdeep gill)
ਮੀਤ ਪੰਰਧਾਨ:ਫਤਿਹ ਜੱਟ(brutual jatt)
ਖਜਾਨਚੀ:ਪੰਜਾਬ ਸਿੰਘ(dashing_jatt)
orgeniser kon aa saare prdhan bnaa te
657
« on: June 04, 2011, 01:12:12 AM »
ਤੂੰ ਵੀ ਫੁੱਲ ਤੇ ਮੈ ਵੀ ਫੁੱਲ
ਕੀ ਲੈਣਾ ਆਪਾ ਕੰਡਿਆਂ ਤੋਂ
ਤੂੰ ਮੈਨੂੰ ਤੋੜ ਲੈ ਮੈ ਤੈਨੂੰ ਤੋੜਾਂ
ਵੱਖ ਕਰ ਲੈ ਇਹਨਾ ਕੰਡਿਆਂ ਤੋਂ
ਤੈਨੂੰ ਮੇਰੇ ਲਈ ਮੈਨੂੰ ਤੇਰੇ ਲਈ
ਮਰਨਾ ਇਕ ਦਿਨ ਪੈਣਾ ਏ
ਇਸ ਜੱਗ ਦੀ ਰੀਤਾਂ ਰਸਮਾਂ ਚੋ
ਆਪਾ ਨੂੰ ਲੰਘਣਾ ਪੈਣਾ ਏ
mitra bhulekheya cho bahr nikl appa saare bnde ee aa te ethe jindgi jeen aaye aa
658
« on: June 04, 2011, 01:03:51 AM »
hor veer ,ajj tan ashiq ,baba ji de charni baitha aa
waheguru waheguru
waheguru waheguru
waheguru waheguru
waheguru waheguru
waheguru waheguru
waheguru waheguru
:rabb: :rabb: :rabb: :rabb: :rabb: :rabb: :rabb: :rabb: :rabb: :rabb: :rabb: :rabb: :rabb: :rabb: :rabb: :rabb: :rabb: :rabb: :rabb:
hanji veer bas fer sab kuch theek ho jana j baba ji de chrna vich bethe o fer hor kise di lod nhi :rabb: :rabb: :rabb: :rabb:
659
« on: June 04, 2011, 12:56:21 AM »
sat shri akal veer aj mood change lgda thora waheguru waheguru
660
« on: June 04, 2011, 12:54:16 AM »
India can never hit a target like Dawood Ibrahim or Hafiz Mohammed Saeed inside Pakistan because it lacks the capabilities. It does not have human and technical intelligence (Humint) to monitor the movements of human targets, its military special forces are too fragmented to be effective and a risk-averse political leadership acts as a stumbling block to any such cross-border operation. It is possible that recent statements made by army chief General V.K. Singh and air force chief Air Chief Marshal P.V. Naik were made out of sheer bravado with no foundation.
Consider what happened the last time such an operation was contemplated. On November 29, 2009, as the Taj Hotel in Mumbai was smouldering from the 26/11 terror attacks, the Cabinet Committee on Security was presented with the option of striking terror training camps in Pakistan.
The Indian Air Force advocated targeting Lashkar-e-Toiba's (let) training camps in Pakistan Occupied Kashmir (PoK) using laser-guided bombs from Mirage 2000s or a commando raid on the let headquarters in Muridke, PoK, using Mi-35 helicopter gunships carrying special forces. The political leadership, however, eschewed a military response. That was the closest India ever came to an Operation Geronimo.
In the early 1980s, the Special Group was raised as the r&aw's equivalent to the cia's Special Activities Division and given a mandate for cross-border operations. The force is believed to have carried out a few classified missions before falling into disuse. However, most 'snatch and grab' operations have been restricted to borders in counter-terrorist operations in J&K and the Northeast.
"Cross-border military-intervention capabilities will have a deterrent value by raising the cost for rogue intelligence agencies like the isi that support terrorist strikes in India," says Brigadier Gurmeet Kanwal (retired), director of the army's think tank, the Centre for Land Warfare Studies. The possibility that such raids could be considered an act of war by Pakistan and thus trigger a conflict has hung heavy on the heads of the political leadership. "Our intelligence services are police-led and have no history of conducting intelligence-based military operations," says former r&aw official, Colonel RSN Singh (retired)
Operation Geronimo was a classic intelligence-driven military operation that involved years of human and technical intelligence gathering. Even so, US President Barack Obama gave it only a "55-45 chance" of finding Osama bin Laden in the compound at Abbottabad. "Trouble is that we lack real-time actionable intelligence on targets and their movement and secure communication and operational datalinks," says former air force chief Air Chief Marshal Fali Homi Major.
Says B. Raman, former additional secretary (r&aw), "The US success was possible by a dramatic improvement in the US Humint capability and by its spectacular covert action capability. We have neither. Our Humint is average. Our covert action capability has been non-existent since 1997 (when it was shut down by Prime Minister I.K. Gujral). We need to revamp both, urgently and visibly."
The US Navy SEALs that executed the Abbottabad operation report to Special Operations Command or socom, a unified multi-dimensional force that conducts global missions. India has over 30,000 special forces scattered among various armed forces and ministries. "We need an Indian socom reporting to the National Security Adviser to ensure a speedy response to a crisis," says Lt. General Prakash Chand Katoch, a former special forces officer. But with no direction on special operations, an Indian socom presently appears to be a remote possibility. n
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