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« on: November 04, 2010, 04:36:18 PM »
It sounds like another quick-fix solution. I guess at the end of the day it might be a lot better off to educate people on how to look after their own health. It is just another symptom of society’s failure to understand that there is no elevator to success; we all have to take the stairs. :lost:
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« on: October 26, 2010, 06:23:37 PM »
Yaro, Never trust a woman.........Oouch!!!!
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« on: October 25, 2010, 06:13:17 PM »
i hate miss pooja :thaa: :thaa: :thaa:
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaar eh kidaN di gal kiti; mehnu taN Miss P de naal pyaar hoya aa. :love:
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« on: October 15, 2010, 08:37:11 PM »
Don't be pointing fingers, the guy's sarcastic as, he said something to entertain us but obviously each one of us reacted differently, Well not quite, 75% of you reacted the same.we're not being ignorant, sh*t happens, move on. Ok so if you say it was an epic fail then that's how you see it but don't accuse him of being racist when he actually wasn't trying to. If 75% of you can’t see it as racism and can’t tell the difference then what else is it?That's how it came for the 75% voters who support him. So no, the majority didn't see it as racist.
If 75% of you can’t see it as racism and can’t tell the difference then what else is it?Ok so if you say it was an epic fail then that's how you see it but don't accuse him of being racist when he actually wasn't trying to. So what does that tell you? You still don’t grasp the concept of racism at all.
But let me ask you straight, do you think it was acceptable?
This thread seems to be in two places; I shall stick to this one.
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« on: October 15, 2010, 06:57:33 PM »
The dude has already handed in his resignation. What else do you want him to do? Btw, you're kind of going off topic. The topic's not about racism in NZ. Not that racism is widespread over here. :wow:
Well the first thing is this; it’s not what I want the ‘dude’ to do. It is more to do with various aspects of this thread. In reference to your earlier point regarding the 75% who support him, it suggests very much that those people do not appreciate what racism is. Since it was you who quoted that figure I merely responded to it.
Secondly, irrespective of you feeling racism is or is not widespreadt, the fact remains that 75% of the public support racist comedy. If that is the case it follows that either racism is widespread or the majority do not see it as racism, which only points to two further things. Either the public at large is ignorant or the majority does not experience racism and therefore it discounts it. That, in essence, is how racism works; it works in that way because it goes unchallenged.
No my point to you is simple. I have said it on at least four occasions. Put simply, it is not how a comment is made or a joke is told; it is how it is perceived. It’s not how you tell it that is important but how you hear it that is important.
Furthermore I posted various links for anyone to read because you stated in an earlier post that Paul Henry was just "trying to be funny". Those links explore the premise of people using racist jibes in order to be funny. In actual fact it is appealing to the lowest denominator.
I do hope you can now see the points I make. If you disagree then do so and I will respond, but do not swear. :
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« on: October 15, 2010, 03:19:50 PM »
In the other thread I accused Kiwis of being forty years behind the rest of the developed world, a remark which I stand by because they have little or no understanding of the concept of how remarks made by the majority against the minority are seen as racist. To them it is not racism because they are not on the receiving end and let’s face it; they are “just trying to be funny”. If that isn’t ignorance then what is? Whilst I am not advocating for the boot to be on the other foot; people like the 70 odd percent who supported Paul Henry will never understand the situation until the boot is on the other foot. That is why they get all defensive when criticised abroad.
In my view racism in comedy happened in the UK during the seventies. This type of prejudicial racism is very much prevalent in Australian and NZ comedy. It is bigoted and racist today as it was in the 70s UK, and that, after a wave of political correctness in the days of alternative comedy. Jokes and sneering remarks are targeted at minority groups. Unlike UK’s discriminatory humour of the 70s, today's NZ performers and presenters like Paul Henry are aware of the power and meaning of the taboos they choose to break.
Read this article and you will get an idea what I am talking about.http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/racism-in-comedy-kramers-sense-of-humour-failure-425291.html Putting comedy aside, under the headline ‘Whose country is it anyway?’ Winston Peters put out a leaflet. It falsely claimed that hundreds of thousands of Asian immigrants are coming to New Zealand and blaming them for, among other things, traffic problems in Auckland. These immigrants are, according to Peters, simultaneously poor enough to be leeches on the welfare system, and rich enough to drive up the cost of housing.
It would be easy to dismiss all this as a piece of desperate populism. But, unlike the Australian One Nation party, New Zealand First is not a collapsing political joke: it is the third-biggest party in Wellington’s parliament, and until 1999 Peters was the country’s deputy prime minister. Barring an electoral miracle, the opposition National party will have to take them on as coalition partners if it is ever to win another election. This article suggests that NZ institutions are, for want of a better expression, institutionally racist. http://twm.co.nz/NZracism.htm
Do you want to work in NZ?Read the links below before you decide. Frankly, I think every Indian should try to get into NZ, let's really "swamp" them. :he:http://newzeelend.wordpress.com/racism/http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/24/053.html http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA0906/S00275.htmFurther reading. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/dec/15/worlddispatch.australia
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« on: October 08, 2010, 08:46:14 PM »
1 of those sheep? Are you that ignorant now? And no that 75% didn't include me. But um no my bf wasn't outraged about the fact that paul made fun of the woman's lastname. Why is it that you're making a big deal out of this just because it was another country but if it was just another indian person, no one would've mind.
It's TVNZ btw. And well maybe they are! and maybe!! because a lot of people like paul henry! but seriously, what difference would it make now? if he has to be sack, then it should've happened ages ago, not just today, just because he dissed indian people. Are indian people more special that 1 bad word, he should be sacked straight away?
That’s about par for the course for someone who has to resort to swearing, as soon as you do that you lose the argument. It must be the level of education in that part of the world; sums you up. You’re not coming across as a great advert for NZ. You are exactly what I imagine you to be. Stop acting like a drama queen and argue the case without swearing.
I couldn’t care less if your BF is Punjabi, or if he’s black, pink or yellow. I think you have a mental block; I am not talking about the woman’s name. I think you should re-read my earlier post and perhaps the penny might drop.
If the 75% didn’t include you then why does it stick in your throat that you can not bring your self to condemn Paul Henry’s offensive views or far that matter your disagreement with the 75%.
I really don’t give a monkey’s ear if it’s TVNZ or NZTV; the result is the same.
As to him being sacked ages ago, perhaps so but did you call for it? Clearly you still do not understand racism. If it had been “just another Indian” I would have said the same because racism is evil. Furthermore by your own admission Paul Henry is guilty of more than “1 bad word” on more than one occasion.
Now, it is 01.35 here in London and I won’t be posting tonight. But rest assured, I will reply to you tomorrow if you should wish to post again on this subject.
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« on: October 08, 2010, 08:44:05 PM »
Bhaji I agree what your saying :)
kuch bandeya nu akal ukal nahi hundi ohna nu har cheez majaak lagdi aa. shayd ghardeya ne ehio sikhaya hna
Mere Veer
Thankyou.
My point is simple; racism has to be challenged where ever it shows its ugly face.
Baki gal thuadi theek aa.
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« on: October 08, 2010, 07:19:56 PM »
/:) You can't argue with the poll results of about 75% voted that he shouldn't be sack because of that. Why should he be sacked now when he's done/said things like this several times already on the past but hasn't been sacked, so why should he be sacked now? Why didn't he get suspended before?
If this is you talking about the indian woman's lastname issue then i'm surprised as to why you're being super sensitive about it. My BF's punjabi and he even defended paul henry saying it wasn't his fault because the woman's lastname does! indeed! sound like how paul pronounced it. He was only offended by what paul henry said about anand satyanand which is a different story!!
Don't complain to me! complain to TVNZ. I'm just the thread creator! Jeebus!
I wasn’t complaining to you, I was criticising you.
Okay, let’s take it a step further. Andi Brotherston, NZTV's News and Current Affairs PR Manager, sought to defend Paul Henry by saying that what Paul Henry said was what “we quietly think but are scared to say out loud”. Is that what you New Zealanders think? Since you haven’t condemned his actions I assume you are just like the 75% Andi Brotherston is describing. Interesting that she wrote a grovelling apology to her colleagues but did not mention a single word of regret to the people her idiotic presenter insulted. This simply means that she is just as stupid as he is.
As to why sack him now? Well that is for the two bit NZTV to decide. If they are happy to have a racist moron representing them and the people of New Zealand then more fool them. It only suggests Paul Henry’s ignorance is only surpassed by those who employ and support him. Perhaps they should have sacked him before, especially if he a track record in this sort of Neanderthal behaviour.
Regarding the “Indian woman’s last name”, I am not being sensitive about it at all. I simply picked up on your lame excuse justifying his stupidity. Your BF should be able to explain to you the reason for the outrage; it is this: Paul Henry insulted the whole of India by stating that the lady’s name was appropriate for an Indian; he then went on to qualify that further by stating it should be “dick in s***. Now which bit of that do you not understand.
Regarding Anand Satyanand. He is a politician of sort in NZ. If you are happy with bigotry on your screen then that does not say a lot for you and the people of NZ.
Finally, you ask “what the hell happened to freedom of speech!?” It is exactly what I am practising by voicing my opinion.
However, putting all that aside, here is your chance to condemn Paul Henry’s actions. Or am I to believe that you are one of those sheep that form the 75% For Andi Brotherton’s grovelling apology see link below.[/size]
http://www.3news.co.nz/TVNZ-PR-manager-sorry-for-defending-Henry/tabid/418/articleID/180055/Default.aspx
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« on: October 08, 2010, 08:28:07 AM »
Looks like we gonna have a heated discussion over here :happy:
Guys, She didnt do it, its Paul Henry.. Just making sure you guys remember that :happy:
I appreciate she didn’t do it, but her words are certainly 'Paul Henry apologist' if you follow my drift, as it were.. To me he is unforgiveable as he holds a position of responsibility and therefore should have known better and to defend him is just as silly as the remarks he made.
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« on: October 08, 2010, 08:23:30 AM »
kiya baat hai menu te ithe hi chad gaye :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
NahiN, nahiN Tarn Ji, oh hun thuanu mudke lehn aye aa, sheti sheti munje thale luk jao. :he: :
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« on: October 08, 2010, 08:17:55 AM »
they are hereeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee :laugh:
Indeed noXiouS ji, they are here! You just need to read some of the posts on PJ and you will surely conclude that the said posts were written by aliens. :happy: : X_X
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« on: October 08, 2010, 08:12:25 AM »
Haha i know but like he was just kidding around, believe me i've seen 'Breakfast' a few times before and he's always just messin' around and he shouldn't have said in public, i agree but it just slipped out of his tongue.
Firstly, to answer you original question “Do indian people hate us now after Paul Henry's comments?” The answer would be no, we do however pity you for defending morons like Paul Henry.
He was just kidding? It just slipped out of his tongue?
You clearly have no concept of racism. You obviously do not understand the difference between how a remark is made and how a remark is perceived. Are you really that thick that you can’t understand that concept? That just proves one thing to me, the brain of a racist is indeed small.
Having now seen the video I sincerely believe that it did not slip off his tongue, if it did then I would suggest Paul Henry’s brain is not in control of his tongue, or else it would not have slipped off his tongue at least not six or seven times. Then to go on and insult the whole of the Indian people is nothing short of a disgrace. You are unforgiveable for defending such actions; you should be condemning such behaviour.
Your words prove that NZ is fifty years behind the rest of the western world. If that nutcase had been on the BBC here in the UK he would have been fired immediately and rightly so.
If NZ television authorities have any sense they would shoot this Muppet out of a cannon. He is as stupid as those who seek to defend him. He is as dumb as those in NZ who think he is “awesome”, If the people of NZ think so highly of him it only suggests they are nothing but backward, racist and morally bankrupt fools. It seems as though evolution is passing them by.
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« on: October 06, 2010, 05:52:19 PM »
Well don't be talking sh*t about us like that oi. :pagel: :thaa: It ain't even true. Lolz.
Oh c'mon, don't get over sensitive; we all know Kiwis are a bit like Australians. The only difference is the Kiwis have had their brains kicked out. :laugh: :laugh:
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« on: October 05, 2010, 07:32:41 PM »
:laugh: yo yo :wow: What a load of bullcrap!
Don't you mean "What a load of bullcrap?" :
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« on: October 05, 2010, 07:23:53 PM »
English people have good dialact
Funnily enough, I speak with a Scots accent.
Mind you, every time I speak to Kiwis they always sound as though they are asking questions when in fact they are making statements.
In London there is an area called Earl’s Court, which is where you will find most Aussies and Kiwis. They have some nice bars there.
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« on: October 05, 2010, 07:16:56 PM »
hahaa both of ya come to America show ya real english..
Nah, they should come to the good old UK. We speak real English here.
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« on: October 05, 2010, 07:11:10 PM »
m fine tusi sunao...ki haal chaal ah thoda? :happy:
n i say ur a mirch
Ji asiN taN ethi London bethe theek thaak aa.
Nahi ji, asiN taN nahi mirch, mishri di dli varge mithe aa. :happy: :he:
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« on: October 05, 2010, 06:43:34 PM »
lol londonpunjabi...he meant lemon /:)
Silent Ji
Meinu pta, mein taN odaN hasda ci. 8-> Anyway, how are you?
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« on: October 05, 2010, 06:30:52 PM »
limbhu
Na ji, nimbu taN meinu pta ki hunda, limbhu ki hunda ji?
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