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pj wallio ehnu samjha lo ... fir na keho ve kudiyan nu gallan khad da ...


kyo ki phela boli da nae picho chadi da nae jaddo koi aukha hunda wa...

ah kudi a husan di sarkar ... ehnu j samjauna samjha lo .... nae mai ta chngi trah samjha du ..

bahuti hwa kardi a ........


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Fun Time / Re: above person u saw, u r in rain & call u at midnight
« on: August 11, 2010, 01:10:24 AM »
waht u mean tere varge ....

eve na mere to ...... kha ke baith jayi ...  :whew:


nalle tere vargi nu mai muhh nae launda ......


theek a na ...... nalle jehdi hwa kardi a oh sadi jhutti diyan nooka te .....


kudiyan nal ladna meri fidrat nae haigi .... phela tu gal suru kiti a .... mai likhia se guddi .....

hun j mere gal ch boli a tenu das du pta fir  :angr:

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Discussions / Re: ki ek jwaan kudi nu shobaa dinda hai mini skirt paana?
« on: August 11, 2010, 12:39:23 AM »
 X_X okie bai

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Fun Time / Re: above person u saw, u r in rain & call u at midnight
« on: August 11, 2010, 12:33:16 AM »

U DONT EVEN NO HOW OLD I M .. LOLZZ..

U CALLED ME AUNTY SO TU APE UNCLE HUNA.. AND PIC CH UDA B LAG REHA  :okk: :yawn: :yawn: :yawn:

UNCLE AIME JAWAKA NU DARA REHE NE JI  :break:
  tu sare pj di aunty..

Bahuti aukhi a pic la apni.. Dekhda tenu husna wali nu...

Tu pj di miss pooja hai..
:laugh:

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Fun Time / Re: above person u saw, u r in rain & call u at midnight
« on: August 11, 2010, 12:30:29 AM »

U DONT EVEN NO HOW OLD I M .. LOLZZ..

U CALLED ME AUNTY SO TU APE UNCLE HUNA.. AND PIC CH UDA B LAG REHA  :okk: :yawn: :yawn: :yawn:

UNCLE AIME JAWAKA NU DARA REHE NE JI  :break:
tu sare pj di aunty a..
Pic la apni j eni himat a ah cart00n di la ke husan di sarkar bndi a.. :laugh:

dur futte muhh tere.. Tu ta miss pooja vargi a :surp:

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Gup Shup / Re: do u Agree?
« on: August 10, 2010, 11:48:37 PM »
 :rockon: chal koi na ..... haye nii eh oh se ....  :laugh:


ah sirra a bai  :pagel:

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Shayari / Re: ●-▬►ਕੁੜੀਆਂ ਲਈ◄▬-●
« on: August 10, 2010, 11:45:16 PM »
 :pagel:bai mainu ve labh layi ek ... mai ta aap single a wa  :love: :love:

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Fun Time / Re: above person u saw, u r in rain & call u at midnight
« on: August 10, 2010, 11:43:43 PM »
nai nai uncle ji.. lolz.. menu cartoon ni pasand.. "guddi""  X_Xloll
:surp: aunty g mai thonu uncle lagda...


mai ta tere nallo ve choota a ... :laugh:

uncle X_X  :thaa:

7689
Fun Time / Re: Your first day on punjabi janta.....
« on: August 10, 2010, 11:39:34 PM »
 :blah: goglu putt itz jst for fun  X_X



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Gup Shup / Re: do u Agree?
« on: August 10, 2010, 11:38:52 PM »
okie bai i cn see it .... par yaar mai only 4 person di gal kiti se ... :whew:


ehda ta bahut singer ne .... satwinder bugga, harjeet harman, lamber, soni pabla ... bahut ne nyc ta yaar .....

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Fun Time / Re: Your first day on punjabi janta.....
« on: August 10, 2010, 11:31:13 PM »
theek jeha se ....

mai gogle te kujh labh reha se .. ta eh vich di pta nae kitho nikal ayi site jahi..


mai dekhia ethe punjabi likhi hoyi se ... te chat jahi se ... mai register kita ethe .... te dekhia jhutta pj da.....
phele din mai desi, navi , te kismat nal gal kiti te ... ek hor se miss gill oh ve ghani kudi a ... ohde nal ve kiti ....
phele din intro diti apni ..

te ek topic ve bania phele din he ... net te kudi fas jandi a keh nae  :laugh:

7692
 :laugh: taddka kal da layi jande ho pattuo ..... kujh bna ve lo khaan nu hun  :pagel:

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Gup Shup / Re: do u Agree?
« on: August 10, 2010, 11:16:17 PM »

bai eh ta lokha di soachni a...but assi pinda wale ta ajj v ohi josh  naal ohnu sunde a jhere josh naal ajj toh kafi saal phela onhnu sunde a...sukh naal hun te radio te v chamkila jada chalda.

chamkile jinna creative naa koi likh sakhia naa likh sakdaaa
 jo oh sing kar giya naa koi hor kar sakda.


duniya vich appne app nu singer-writer khen wale auann gye bade
per naa kade koi chamkile warga gau ga naa odhe warga likh pau ga.
He was a true legend.


bai chamkila vadiya a wa... par ohnu apa ghare baith ke apni family ch nae sun sakde ... nalle jithe tu chamkile di gal kiti a .... ohna nallo vadiya ta kalliyan da badsahh manak g ne .... ohna da naam tu liya nae ......

asi ve pind ch he rehne a ....chamkila bs tractor te layi da jaddo gharo bahar hoyie ... khett hoyie.... gharo chamkila la ke gharo ta jehdia gallan painia he oh painia he ne .... pind de lokh ve kehnge sala kamla ho giya ... ghare ve chamkila layi firda  :laugh:

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 :love: tadka party goglu walli zindabaad  :pagel:

7695
Gup Shup / Re: do u Agree?
« on: August 10, 2010, 11:03:11 PM »
jatt in style, kuch gurdas mann di shaan vich vi likhde, jayaz jea

vere ohna barre ki likha .... i hve no words... oh ta punjabi indsy da chan a .... ohdi jinni kamal aj ta na kise ne kiti a na karni a  8->

7696
tadkka kehnde ne bai sade ta ... malwe ch .... :happy:

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Lok Virsa Pehchaan / Re: 153 ਦਿਨਾਂ ਤੋਂ ਵੱਧ
« on: August 10, 2010, 11:50:27 AM »
jis ne amritsar darbar sahib ਤੇ ਹਮਲਾ kita oh 153 dina badh died ho giya ...

koi nae bachia jis ne ਹਮਲਾ kita se .... chahe oh muslman se chahe hindu ... sikha ne ohnu mar dita ... bzuse dey love dere guru darbar harminder sahib g ....


waheguru waheguru

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Lok Virsa Pehchaan / Shaheed Baba Deep Singh ji (1682 – 1757)
« on: August 10, 2010, 11:46:36 AM »
Baba Deep singh was born on the 20th January 1682 A.D. in the village of Pahuwind in district of Amritsar. His father’s name was Bhai Bhagtu. He went to Anandpur on the Vaisakhi of 1700 A.D., where after obtaining baptism (into Sikhism) he started learning weaponry and riding from the Sikhs. From Bhai Mani singh he began learning reading and writing Gurmukhi and interpretation of Guru’s word. After spending two years at the Guru’s institution, he returned to his village in 1702 A.D. got married and started living there. He went to Guru Gobind Singh at Talwandi Sabo in 1705 AD where he helped Bhai Mani singh in making copies of Guru Granth sahib. After the Guru sahib left for Delhi, he took up the service of looking after Gurudwara Damdama sahib.
In 1709 A.D., he joined Baba Banda singh Bahadur in chastising the tyrants of Sadhaura and Sirhind. in 1733 A.D. Nawab Kapoor singh Singhpuria appointed him a leader of one squad. On Vaisakhi day of 1748 A.D., when Dal Khalsa was reorganized into twelve misls, he was entrusted with the leadership of Shaheedan Misl. In April 1757 A.D., Abdali during his fourth invasion was returning to Kabul from Delhi with precious booty and young men and women as captives, Singhs made a plan to rob him of the valuables and set the prisoners free. The squad of Baba Deep singh was deployed near Kurukshetra. His squad freed large number of prisoners and lightened the burden of valuables of Abdali considerably. While departing from Lahore, Abdali appointed his son Taimur Shah, the Governor of Lahore and told him, “Try to finish the Sikhs”. In Accordance with his orders Taimur Shah started demolishing Gurudwaras and filling the holy pools with debris.
When Baba Deep singh came to know of the demolition of Harminder Sahib, he narrated it to the congregation of Damdama Sahib and said, “Diwali will be celebrated at Amritsar this year.” Five hundred Singhs came forward to go with him. Baba Deep Singh offered prayers before starting for Amritsar, “My head may fall at Harminder Sahib.” By the time squad reached Taran Tarn the number of Singhs going with Baba Deep singh reached approximately Five thousand.
At the news of the approach of Singhs, the Governor of Lahore sent his general with an army of Twenty thousand to face them. His army took up positions Six miles north of Amritsar and waited for the Singhs there. Both the armies clashed near Gohalwar on the 11th November, 1757 A.D. Fighting bravely Singhs pushed the army back and reached village Chabba where General Attal Khan came forward and inflicted a blow on Baba Deep Singh ji which made his neck lean to one side. A Sikh reminded him, “You had resolved to reach the periphery of the pool.” On hearing the  talk of the Sikh, he supported his head with his left hand and removing the enemies from his way with the strokes of his double-edged sword with his right hand, reached the periphery of Harmindar Sahib where he breathed his last. The Singhs celebrated the Diwali of 1757 A.D. in Harminder Sahib.


 =D>Salute to great Sikh Warrior Shaheed Baba Deep Singh Ji :rabb:

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Religion, Faith, Spirituality / Hukamnamas by guru gobind singh ji
« on: August 10, 2010, 11:44:02 AM »
HUKAMNAMA , is a compound of two Persian words hukm, meaning command or order, and namah, meaning letter. In the Sikh tradition, historically it refers to the letters sent by the Sikh Gurus to their Sikhs or sangats (congregation) in different parts of the country during the period of the Ten Gurus from 1469 to 1708. However, now it is used to refer to the Shabd {hymn} that is read after the Ardas prayer is said in the presence of the Sikh holy scripture, Sri Guru Granth Sahib. In this case the word is can also be shortened to just the Guru’s Hukam.
Currently, the word also applies to edicts issued from time to time from the five takhats or seats of high religious authorities for the Sikhs – the Akal Takht at Amritsar, Takht Sri Keshgarh Sahib at Anandpur Sahib (Punjab), Takht Harimander Sahib at Patna (Bihar), Takht Sachkhand Sri Hazur Sahib at Nanded (Maharashtra) and Takht [[Damdama Sahib at Talvandi Sabo (in Bathinda district of the Punjab). The full name of these edicts is “Takhat deh Hunkamnama” – “The Order of the Takhat”
Letters addressed to Sikhs by historical personages as Baba Gurditta, the elder son of Guru Hargobind, Mata Sundari and Mata Sahib Devi, widows of Guru Gobind Singh, and Banda Singh Bahadur are also included in this genre. Some of the letters of the later Gurus to sangats or prominent Sikhs have in recent years been traced and published in two collections, with most of the material common to both, the first entitled Hukamname, edited by Ganda Singh (Patiala, Punjabi University, 1967), and the second Nisan te Hukamname, edited by Shamsher Singh Ashok (Amritsar, Sikh Itihas Research Board, Shiromani Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee, 1967). A separate anthology of Guru Tegh Bahadur’s hukamnamas, in Devanagari transcription and with an English translation, was published by Punjabi University, Patiala, in 1976. All hakamnamas were originally written in Punjabi, in Gurmukhi characters.
Those of Guru Hargobind as also most of Guru Tegh Bahadur’s are believed to have been written in their own hand. It appears, however, that in the time of Guru Gobind Singh, the text was written by a scribe while the Guru put down on the top of the letter an authentication mark, an invocation or some direction. There is a near uniformity in the format of the hukamnamas. The earlier ones bore no date; from AD 1691 onwards they were usually dated and also, at times, numbered. Later on, the practice of recording at the end of the text the number of lines in the body of the letters also came into vogue. The scribes began the text with the words, Sri Guru ji ki agia hai (It is the order of the revered Guru, or the revered Guru desires), preceded by the formula Ik Onkar Guru Sati, later Ik Onkar Satguru (Remember One God, the True Guru).
Banda Singh Bahadur (1670-1716), blessed by Guru Gobind Singh himself, introduced a seal in Persian script as authentication mark and recorded the initial formula to read as Ik Onkar Fateh Darsanu (God is One, Victory to (His) Presence), and the text began with Sache Sahib di agia hai (by order of the True Master). Hukamnamas of Mata Sundari begin with the words Sri Mata ji di agia hai, and those of Mata Sahib Devi with Sri Akal Purakh ji ka Khalisa Sri Mata Sahib Devi ji di agia hai (Mata Sahib Devi’s order to the Khalsa of the Timeless One).

Apart from their importance to the Sikhs as the sacred remembrances of the Gurus, the hukamnamas are invaluable historical documents. Names of persons and places to which they are addressed provide clues to the composition, socially, of early Sikhism and its spread, geographically. One of the earliesthukamnamas discovered is a missive addressed by Guru Hargobind (1595-1644) to sangats at Patna, Alamganj, Sherpur, Bina and Monghyr, in Bihar, and includes no fewer than 62 names of prominent Sikhs belonging to those communities. Hukamnamas of Guru Tegh Bahadur (1621-75) and Guru Gobind Singh (1666-1708) are addressed to sangats as far apart as Dhaka, Chittagong and Sylhet in the east and Patan, present-day Pakpattan, in Pakistan in the west. In addition to blessings from the Gurus and acknowledgement of the devotees’ gifts, these letters contain instructions for the followers to cultivate love and prayer as well as indications with regard to the offerings they might bring. The demands ranged from cash contribution in the form of gold or hundis (bills of exchange) to pet birds, garments, weapons, cannons and war elephants. Sometimes these demands are written in abbreviated forms.

The hukamnamas, which are dated, help to fix the chronology of certain events. For instance, letters instructing Sikhs not to recognize masands, or tithe-collectors, but to bring their offerings directly to the Guru on the occasions of Baisakhi and Diwali are all written during 1699 or later, confirming the abolition of the institution of masands simultaneously with the creation of the Khalsa on 30 March 1699. The almost identical letters, both dated 1 Kartik 1764 Bk/2 October 1707, while informing the sangats at Dhaul and Khara of Guru Gobind Singh’s meeting with the Emperor (Bahadur Shah), enjoined upon them to present themselves duly armed when the Guru arrived in Kahlur (Anandpur). This was not to be, for the Guru passed away at Nanded, in the South, a year later, but the Guru’s intention of returning to the Punjab is clearly established.

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Lok Virsa Pehchaan / Nankana’s Endowment Lands Charnjit Singh Bal
« on: August 10, 2010, 11:42:10 AM »
Like many Sikhs I too believed that Maharaja Ranjit Singh granted the endowments lands to the Guru Nanak’s birthplace Gurdwara at Nankana. Although Bhai Kanh Singh Nabha’s Mahan Kosh (circa 1930 AD publication) does mention ‘the Gurdwara has 18000 acres and 9,892 Rupees of endowments to its name, it does not mention as to who bequeathed the land. Now a Punjabi article named ‘Koh-e´-Noor da Paarkhoo (appraiser), Rai Bulär, Khan Sahib’ by Dr. Harpal Singh, published in S. G. P. C’s December 2003 volume of Gurmat Perkash apparently gives authentic information about the historical fact as to who bequeathed 18750 acres endowment land to Guru Nanak Sahib. The English translation of the article,

There is another Sakhi, a tradition, which is not mentioned in our Sakhies, that relates Rai Bulär with Baba (Nanak) Jee. A very important phenomenon happened, but, I am surprised, it is not included in the Sakhies. A pious Muslim narrated this Sakhi to me.

At Nankana Sahib after I paid homage, listened the Keertan (Sikh inspirational music) and partook Langar I thought of meeting and talking to the Muslims. I told a police officer that I am a Professor I want to meet some Professor or Master (high school teacher). The D. S. P. said, there is a college about two furlongs away, go there. I started walking and came to a gate. In English and Urdu was written, ‘Guru Nanak Degree College, Nanaka Sahib’. I went inside but didn’t see any one. The watchman said Salaam and asked politely; do you need any help? I asked, is there no Professor around? He said that there are, but they are on duty at the examinations, I can call anyone you say. I told him I will be back in an hour, at about five o’ clock, and started to walk back.

A six and half foot tall, 65-70 year old pious Muslim in Salwar and Kameez (baggy pants and shirt), wearing a turban came walking briskly towards me and said, Sardar Jee Sat Sri Akal; why are you going away? When I saw you I told my labor to quit work. I am the contractor, building a hostel for the students. Come this way, we will talk. Two or three chairs were fetched. None of the laborers went home, they all sat around us on the ground.

During the talks I asked, how much land is in the name the Gurdwara? He said why do ask this question, was there any problem with lodging or boarding? I said there wasn’t any problem, but since this is the birthplace of my Baba (Nanak), don’t I have the right to be concerned? He said absolutely not, only the revered personages bear that responsibility, our responsibility is to recite scriptures (to praise the Lord). Hazrat (revered) Baba Nanak is caring about us.
I said, ok, but do I have right to know? He said yes, you have right to know. There are seven and a half hundred Murabas (5×5)x750 or 25×750=18750 acres) in gurdwara’s name. I asked did Maharaja Ranjit Singh grant this land? The contractor said no, the Maharaja never granted that much land to any Gurdwara. Our ancestor, Bhatti Sardar bequeathed this land. I asked who is Bhatti Sardar? He asked, you don’t know Bhatti Sardar? Here every child of fifty villages knows his and (Nanak) Baba’s name. His name was Rai Bulär, Khan Sahib. You haven’t heard Sardar’s name? I said his name pervades in every particle of our being brother, but I didn’t know that Rai Bular was a Bhatti.

There are many Bhatti villages here. The contractor said we are not ordinary Bhattis. I too am Bhatti. Our Sardar was the first who recognized the master of all worlds, Baba (Nanak). Our Sardar recognized a Koh-e´-Noor (Nanak) when he was in his childhood. Now hear (endowment) land’s account.
Rai Bular Khan Sahib who owned 1500 Murabas (37500 acres) was a wealthy landlord and self-esteemed man but a paragon of nobility. He revered Baba Jee. His age was getting past 40 years but no children. It is said that he mounted his horse and went to tour his Murabas. Guru Baba’s age was around 12 or 13 years (circa 1481/82). Baba was tending to herd of pasturing buffaloes. Rai Sahib dismounted from his horse, removed his shoes, stood close to Baba Jee and said, Baba, fulfill my this desire to see a child playing in my house. He had gone to beseech, with this wish in mind. Baba Jee gave his blessings and said Rai your wish is fulfilled; do not lose faith.

After a year a child was born in the house of Rai Sahib. Sardar was so happy that he gave a lavish party that was attended by Daulat Khan, the Nawab (Nabob) of Sultanpur Lodhi. In this assemblage, after thanksgiving, Rai Bular Sahib bequeathed half of his landed property to Hazrat Eminent Baba (Nanak) Jee. So 750 Murabas (18750 acres) were transferred to Baba Jee’s name. That title remains in his name to-date.
About 15 years ago (circa 1988 AD) this matter cropped up in our minds that we are the owners, we hold and farm the land but the title is not in our names. We have been illegally holding the land for generations. We filed a suit in the Skeikhupur court ‘because in his old age our grand old ancestor turned senile, he bequeathed half of his landed property to a Fakir called Nanak. But since, as per inheritance rights, we are the rightful owners, also as we hold and farm the land, its title should be transferred to our names.’ Summons, records search and legal arguments took four years. On the judgment date, the verdict was against us, i.e. the title cannot be transferred. We filed an appeal in the high court at Lahore. The appeal process lased for three years. The high court upheld the lower court’s verdict i.e. the title could not be transferred.

We filed an appeal in the Supreme Court at Islamabad. Again the appeal hearing lasted three years. When the time came to pronounce the judgment the bench said come to the court as a delegation of four or five but do not bring the lawyers, as we want to discuss an important matter. We asked, tell us the nature of the matter so that we can come prepared. Since it is a matter common to our clan we have to discuss amongst ourselves. Judges said your filing the suit was not an appropriate action that is what we want to tell you. The court date was set after one month. Each village held its meetings and finally a common meeting of all villages was held. Eight representatives, those who will talk to the judges, were selected.

On the given date hundreds of people came and gathered in front of the court. When our turn came we went inside. I was one of the eight representatives. The judges adjourned courts for one hour. We were ushered into the backroom (judges’ chambers), refreshments were served and then the judges initiated the talk. The honorable judges said ‘we have considered the suit very closely. You have acted erroneously. It would have been better if you had invoked the blessings of the Fakirs against whom you filed the suit instead. The venerated men who showed you the temporal light (way of life), you sued them and stigmatized them by characterizing them as senile.’

‘Since Rai Bular saved half of his land, his half mind at least was sound. But the Fakir (Nanak) in whose name he (Rai Bulär) transferred half of the land’s title had lost all his (mundane) mentality, because he never even looked at the land. His descendents never tried to take possession of the land. The Sikhs never tried to occupy the land nor did they file suits in the courts. You have been holding the land illegally for generations and now you have filed cases in the courts. For ten to twelve years you have been dishonoring your venerated elders. Did nobody advise you not to sin? More than the land they loved you, but you hate those Dervishes and lust for land. The land will stay with you, however it would have been better if you hadn’t filed the suit.’
We said the land is in our possession but the title doesn’t have our names. The judges philosophized, nobody’s name will remain, yours’ nor ours’. The name of providential God will remain and name of pious devotees will remain. Those who cherish Moon and stars will remain nobody else will remain. Our advice to you is that you withdraw the appeal. We said our brotherhood is waiting out side let us consult with them. The judges said by all means, now it is eleven thirty, you can discuss till four in the evening. If you do not withdraw the appeal we will pronounce the judgment. As this advice has been given to you out of court you are not obliged to accept it.

We came out. Outside our brotherhood was waiting. The whole matter was told and ideas were exchanged. In the end it was decided to choose one of the two choices, either to withdraw the appeal or get the judgment against it. From the judges’ talk it was evident that there was no question of our winning. In the evening we appeared along with lawyer and withdrew the appeal. Sardar Jee we were saved. If the appeal hadn’t been withdrawn we would have lost the appeal, worldly honor and the faith (ethos). Now we would be able to stand in front of these Dervishes and ask for their forgiveness. Because they are very compassionate, the parents forgive their errant children.

Now brother, consider Baba Nanak’s numerous attributes, centuries have passed, he is still sending the compassionate messages. Through Supreme Court he advised us to desist from going astray. The Supreme Court made us to desist. Baba Nanak did not get us dishonored by the Supreme Court, checked us but saved our honor too. To him hundred thousand salaams! Even today, as per land registry records, Guru Nanak farms these Murabas.

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