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Shayari / Rab Diya Rehmta Da
« on: December 21, 2011, 02:28:11 PM »




Rab Diyan Rehmta Da Shukar Manyida
Jive Oh Karaunda Assi Unj Kari Jayida
Rab Diya Rehmta Da Shukar Manyida

Jagaunda Pukhe Pet Hai
Savauda Bhar Pet Hai
Har Ik Bande Da Uhde Kol Pet Hai
Rukha Sukha Milje Oh Vi Kush Ho Ke Khai Da
Rab Diya Rehmta Da Shukar Manyida


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Complaints / Re: IceColdRider report
« on: December 21, 2011, 02:22:05 PM »
tae manu icecold dia galhaaa sahi b lagdia ... anjjj hunda ... aah meri soch no gussa.

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Religion, Faith, Spirituality / EATING MEAT? WHY NOT?
« on: December 21, 2011, 02:04:04 PM »
Bhagat Kabir ji states: Oh Kabir, the dinner of beans and rice flavoured with rice is acceptable But who is prepared to have his throat cut [in the hereafter] for the hunted animal. [1374]

It is a disturbing thought that many Sikhs believe that to attain spiritual enlightenment one can continue to tuck into a juicy steak, that the pain and suffering of the animal is separate to the succulent roast chicken on the table, that the cutting of the animals life force will not have a direct effect on their own 'karmic account '. Eating meat of ANY type is prohibited for a Sikh. Siri Guru Granth Sahib Ji (SGGS) makes various references to meat . The reason the Gurus went hunting was not for pleasure or the need to satisfy their taste buds, they were above this , it was to settle long overdue 'accounts' to release the souls of the poor unfortunate animals who may have wronged in the past, to grant them Mukti / salvation. There is a story of Guru Gobind Singh Ji who sent out his falcon to hunt an animal, once caught Guru Ji watched as the Baaj tore into the animals flesh. Asked by one of his Sikhs what was the reasoning behind this Guru ji stated that in a previous life the animal had borrowed some money from the Baaj and swore on Akal Purakhs name that he would pay it back, he never did, now was pay back time. There are many instances like this which illustrates that the Gurus were not hunting for meat but to save these souls from the continuous cycle of birth and death. In two Hukkhamnamas of Sri Guru Har Gobind Sahib Ji there are clear cut instructions prohibiting the eating of meat, fish etc. The actual words are

"Maas machhi de nerrey nahai jawnaa" Dr Gopal Singh in his History of the Sikh People. " In the Gurus kitchen (or Guru Ka Langar) meat dishes are not to be served, Giani Sher Singh in his Philosophy of Sikhism. "Kabir held the doctrine of Ahinsa or non-destruction of life, which even extended to his followers. The Sikh Gurus, on the contrary allowed and even encouraged the use of animal flesh for food.."??? Does the author go on to expand on this , does he give any evidence for this, No he does not!. Again pure conjecture and speculation from people with hidden agendas. One should step back and think for a moment what is being said here. The Gurus were pure souls, Sikhs believe them to have merged with the Akal Purkh are we then led to believe that they would tear into a chicken leg at meal time, piayrio don't even go there. Eating meat is a very primitive act and the Gurus taught us to be above this, to control our emotions and urges if we were to develop spiritually. H.S Singha in his Mini Encyclopedia of Sikhism. 'Guru Amar Das Ji ate only rice and lentils but this abstention cannot be regarded as evidence of vegetarianism, only of simple living.'??? Why cannot it be evidence of vegetarianism ? If we look at the lives of the Gurus and try to emulate as much of them as possible because we regard them as ideal living then why not this ? Now, lets get to the heart of what eating meat really means. We are talking about inflicting pain & killing another being , cutting of its flesh and muscles which that animal relied upon for its existence and consuming it, primarily for the taste. That's right, for the taste of it. We can exist quite happily without meat so why do many people feel the urge to consume it, taste plays a large part of it. Can we in our hearts believe that the Gurus advocated this? Question : Do beings get born on this earth and have living bodies just to be a convenience food ? Or do beings get born into a life with a body so that they can develop and eventually evolve away from Karma and into Dharma ? In the beginnings of SGGS , Guru Ji says : This human body has been given to you. This is your chance to meet the Lord of the Universe. Nothing else will work. Join the SaadhSangat, the company of the holy. Vibrate and meditate on the Jewel on the Naam. Make every effort to cross over this terrifying world-ocean. Your are squandering this life uselessly in the love of Maya I have not practiced meditation, self discipline, Self restraint or righteous living. I have not served the holy; I have not acknowledged the Lord, my king. Says Nanak, my actions are contemptible! O Lord, I seek Your Sanctuary, please preserve my honour. The 'body' is given to all in order to meet Akal Purkh and the Guru says that there is no other way to meet him. By killing a healthy animal for consumption interrupts its life experience and its evolution towards meeting God. Animals can sense impending doom especially if they can hear the death throws of their colleagues having a 'bolt' driven into their skulls in the shed next door. This can evoke a very powerful glandular response in the animal and hormones are pumped into its body. When you eat that flesh you take on those hormones, and of course its Karma. This has a great effect on your Atma, for the Atma feels pain. By adding the karma of that soul to yours you are also interfering with your own desire to meet the Lord of the Universe. If you have not cleared away your own Karma why would you want to create the Karma of killing and consuming the flesh of another being ? Sikhs do not eat or take into their bodies anything which is harmful or have an ill effect upon the body or mind. Meat is a stimulant of the gross passions of the mind and body. Meat is harmful on a physical, mental and spiritual level. You are killing a soul who is in the process of evolving towards God. Meat stimulates your 'lower nature' making it impossible to achieve a meditative spiritual mind set. If you want constant confusion and irritation then chew on a piece of flesh. If on the other hand you want to evolve spiritually , open up the capacity for meditative comprehension of higher truths then the karmic and polluting nature of meat cannot be ignored. It is said by many that plants also have life so why do we not abstain from eating plants ? It is very true that plants do have life but the karmic energy and consequences of eating plants do not compare to those of an animal which has nervous systems; feeling, possible thoughts, parental instincts towards is offspring. Also plants ( and I am talking about the normal ones that we eat - lentils, maize , spinach etc) are not harmful on a mental, spiritual level but are in fact good for the digestion. Much has been made of the Nihang Singh sect eating Maha Parshad, but the Nihangs also drink a concoction of Marihuana and opium called Suckha, are we all to start taking drugs because of this? Those believing they will grow big and strong by eating meat are also at a loss to explain why vegetarian Singhs and Singhnia are among the strongest and toughest people in the world and how Singhs of the past like Baba Deep Singh were able to overpower enemy armies of much greater size. For those of you thinking "we are at the top of the food chain"- you are sadly mistaken as Cannibals eat humans as well as other meat so they are at the top should we be likewise be following what they do?

They (the truest of the true) burn away the bonds of the world, And eat a simple diet of grain and water. (SGGS Aang467)

Kabir, those mortals who consume marijuana, fish and wine - no matter what pilgrimages, fasts and rituals they follow, they will all go to hell. (SGGS Aang1337)

You kill living beings and worship lifeless things, at your very last moment, You will suffer terrible pain. (SGGS Aang332)

Do not say that the Vedas are false, false are those who do not reflect. If in all is one god, then why does one kill the hen ? (SGGS Aang1350)

Sayeth Kabir, that the best food is eating kichree (daal/lentils) where nectar sweet is the salt. You eat hunted meat, but which animal is willing to have their head cut ? (SGGS Aang1378)

In this dark age of Kali Yuga, people have faces like dogs; They eat rotting dead bodies for food. (SGGS Aang1242 The Vars of Bhai Gurdas Ji are known as the 'kunji' (key) to Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji. Var 31 pauree 9 : "Just because the Guru has saved the butcher,That does not mean that we can kill animals and eat them."

ASK YOURSELF WHY DO YOU CHOOSE TO EAT A CORPSE?


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Request / Re: Request Video Of The Day
« on: December 21, 2011, 01:23:05 PM »
Rabb Naal Thaggian (Karamjit Dhuri) Old Punjabi Folk Song


PLAYED.

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Birthdays / Re: happy birthday apurv
« on: December 21, 2011, 01:09:54 PM »
happy b day bro.

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Religion, Faith, Spirituality / Re: Anger and Forgiveness
« on: December 21, 2011, 07:29:15 AM »
Thx u shrin this post baut meaningful a

ji aya nu ji....

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Gup Shup / Re: Local Mod Demotion:Gill-Galib
« on: December 20, 2011, 11:21:18 AM »
badi maadi gal aa yaar

bahut mada hoya yaar. ada ni c hona chayi da.

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Religion, Faith, Spirituality / Anger and Forgiveness
« on: December 20, 2011, 11:10:21 AM »
Satguru Sri Guru Tegh Bahadhur Ji Maharaj, the king of kings, the saint of saints and the blanket of the world said to his sikhs, 'In anger man commits evil deeds. He loses at once his senses, and his religion. When anger springs up in a man's heart, what crime is there he will not perpetrate?'

He thinks nothing of sinning against his parents and his holy Guru. He takes the life which he ought to protect, and utters nothing but harsh language. He will not refrain from any act even though he sacrifices his life in its execution. There is no greater sacrifice than life, and yet the foolish person will deliberately make it. The angry man's soul burns if he does not obtain his desires. He cannot eat or sleep. Day and night he is tortured by his passion, and forms endless plans for its gratification. In this way he passes his time in misery.

' To exercise forgiveness is a great act. To exer­cise forgiveness is to give alms. Forgiveness is equal to ablutions at all places of pilgrimage. For­giveness ensures man's salvation. There is no virtue equal to forgiveness. Whenever you get the chance generously exercise it. Never abandon this virtue, but ever preserve it in your hearts. You are ordered in the Granth Sahib to lay up the wealth of the Name, so that it may accompany you in this world and in the next.

This wealth is only found in the companion­ship of good men, and cannot be obtained by any other means. My followers possess this wealth which is superior to all jewels and gems. The saints hoard it day and night. It cannot be pur Vased, no thief can steal, no fire consume, no water drown it, whereas worldly wealth is generally accumulated by sin. Thieves can steal it, pickpockets purloin it, kings seize it, fire burn it, and earth rot it. At the hour of death this sinful wealth only causes regret, and, through man's desires being fixed on it his soul falls into terrible hell.'

Dhan Dhan Satguru Sri Guru Tegh Bahadhur Ji Maharaj, the king of kings, the saint of saints, and the blanket of the world

This Shabad is by Guru Tegh Bahaadur Ji in Raag Gauree on Ang 218 of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji:

gauVI mhlw 9 ]
swDo iehu mnu gihE n jweI ]
cMcl iqRsnw sMig bsqu hY Xw qy iQru n rhweI ]1] rhwau ]
kTn kroD Gt hI ky BIqir ijh suiD sB ibsrweI ]
rqnu igAwnu sB ko ihir lInw qw isau kCu n bsweI ]1]
jogI jqn krq siB hwry gunI rhy gun gweI ]
jn nwnk hir Bey dieAwlw qau sB ibiD bin AweI ]2]4]

gourree mehalaa 9 ||
saadhho eihu man gehiou n jaaee ||
cha(n)chal thrisanaa sa(n)g basath hai yaa thae thhir n rehaaee ||1|| rehaao ||
kat(h)an karodhh ghatt hee kae bheethar jih sudhh sabh bisaraaee ||
rathan giaan sabh ko hir leenaa thaa sio kashh n basaaee ||1||
jogee jathan karath sabh haarae gunee rehae gun gaaee ||
jan naanak har bheae dhaeiaalaa tho sabh bidhh ban aaee ||2||4||

Gauree, Ninth Mehl:
Holy Saadhus: this mind cannot be restrained.
Fickle desires dwell with it, and so it cannot remain steady. ||1||Pause||
The heart is filled with anger and violence, which cause all sense to be forgotten.
The jewel of spiritual wisdom has been taken away from everyone; nothing can withstand it. ||1||
The Yogis have tried everything and failed; the virtuous have grown weary of singing God's Glories.
O servant Nanak, when the Lord becomes merciful, then every effort is successful. ||2||4|

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Jokes Majaak / Re: Ek Bache Di...
« on: December 20, 2011, 10:47:03 AM »
hahahahahahahahahahahahaha


veri nyc

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Fun Time / Re: Find the mistake!
« on: December 20, 2011, 10:45:14 AM »

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Fun Time / Re: New Alphabets
« on: December 20, 2011, 10:43:54 AM »
:hehe: ghaint technology da daur aa...

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Members Pics / Re: babar sher yaaran da ....
« on: December 20, 2011, 10:42:24 AM »
bari sohni emotional picture bai...

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Competitions / Re: Competition Ideas
« on: December 20, 2011, 10:38:14 AM »
next competition hona chayi da.... 1week sare janae dekho kina cher online bahndae aa jerda jayada cher online raho oh winner :hehe: ess competition vich pher sare participate kar sakdae sab vastae sunari moka... nale pj dae online user v vadh jaan gae ; janta pagla vangu 24 ghante online raho gae  X_X

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Love Pyar / Re: ਘਰ
« on: December 20, 2011, 10:32:18 AM »
laa dass barda rulaya ous chandri nae :hehe:

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Shayari / Re: ਰੱਬਾ ਚੱਲਦੇ ਰੱਖੀ ਮੇਰੇ saah
« on: December 20, 2011, 10:30:36 AM »
bai ess section vich picture post karnia .. one liner ja pher shyari post nahi karni  oh shyari vale section vich post karni.... oda ghaint likhya veer.

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Gup Shup / Re: Song ur listening to?
« on: December 20, 2011, 10:26:50 AM »
awae kisae chandare nae najar lagyi

bardi pari nath manu kito na thiyai

full wangu vicho vich jawa kamlayi

hun lawa kerda bhana athae meri nath digg pae

neo k fari jawana athae meri nath digg pae...

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theek aa bai

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Introductions / New Friends / Re: 2011
« on: December 20, 2011, 10:21:14 AM »
jae bai tenu ess site di samaj ni lagan dayi ta pher bai aah duniya vich rehna ess site nalo v sala aukha ....o di tutorial kidae ko lae gae ess kar k aap hath par maro koi na koi rah nikal ao ga.  X_X

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Help & Suggestions / Re: how to become singer
« on: December 20, 2011, 10:18:04 AM »
:hehe:

i dont know...

maybe miss pooja

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Tutorials / Re: how to create profile?
« on: December 20, 2011, 10:16:04 AM »
The second you registered, you've already created a profile.

u r ryt. :hehe:

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