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Religion, Faith, Spirituality / True Lover
« on: December 24, 2011, 07:40:26 PM »
True Love is the key to True Happiness (Aatmic Anand - ਆਤਮਿਕ ਆਨੰਦ …): ਸਾਚ ਕਹੋਂ ਸੁਨ ਲੇਹੁ ਸਭੈ ਜਿਨ ਪ੍ਰੇਮ ਕੀਓ ਤਿਨ ਹੀ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਪਾਇਓ ॥: Saach kahon sun lehu sabhai jin prem keeo tin hee prabh paaio (Dasam Granth 42).

But, we have 2 basic differences in love – selfish love and selfless love. The mundane or worldly love is selfish. The Gurbani boldly declares that in this material world “all are concerned only with their own happiness” (ਜਗਤ ਮੈ ਝੂਠੀ ਦੇਖੀ ਪ੍ਰੀਤਿ ॥ ਅਪਨੇ ਹੀ ਸੁਖ ਸਿਉ ਸਭ ਲਾਗੇ ਕਿਆ ਦਾਰਾ ਕਿਆ ਮੀਤ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ Jagat mai jhoothee dekhee preeti. Apane hee sukh siou sabh laage kiaa daaraa kiaa meet. ||1|| rehaao ||, sggs 536).

Selfless love is “rare”. Because, as the Gurbani says, those who (by becoming the Gurmukhs ) understand (ਸੂਝ-ਬੂਝ, Giaan …) this Truth are also very “rare” in this world.

To put it otherwise, selfish love is the love of Maya (duality …). And the selfless love is the love of the One, for the sake of the One (ਹੋਰੁ ਸਭ ਪ੍ਰੀਤਿ ਮਾਇਆ ਮੋਹੁ ਕਾਚਾ ॥: Horu sabh pareeti Maya mohu kaachaa, sggs 164).

Thus, the very definition of the True Love is that it can never be selfish. It is Divine. If love is motivated by selfishness, then it cannot be a True Love.

Selfish love is a mundane business. There is give and take in it – though very little “give” (if any), but more “take”. Such crooked and sneaky love is always in flux – goes up and down depending on whether things are going “good” or “badly” in life. As indicated in the Gurbani, this sort of love is a mundane trade.

On the other hand, in selfless love, there is no “take” – there is only “give”. Such True Love does not fluctuate. According to the Gurbani, those who are immersed in such Pure Love are the True Lovers.

The Gurbani sums it up so beautifully as follows:

•ਸਲੋਕੁ ਮਹਲਾ ੨ ॥ ਏਹ ਕਿਨੇਹੀ ਆਸਕੀ ਦੂਜੈ ਲਗੈ ਜਾਇ ॥ ਨਾਨਕ ਆਸਕੁ ਕਾਂਢੀਐ ਸਦ ਹੀ ਰਹੈ ਸਮਾਇ ॥ ਚੰਗੈ ਚੰਗਾ ਕਰਿ ਮੰਨੇ ਮੰਦੈ ਮੰਦਾ ਹੋਇ ॥ ਆਸਕੁ ਏਹੁ ਨ ਆਖੀਐ ਜਿ ਲੇਖੈ ਵਰਤੈ ਸੋਇ ॥੧॥: Salok Mahalaa 2. Eh kinehee aasakee …||1||: Salok Mahalaa 2. What sort of love is this, which (by forgetting the One) clings to duality? O Nanak! That person alone is called a lover, who remains forever immersed (in One Beloved – (ਅਪਣੇ ਇੱਕ ਪ੍ਰੀਤਮ ਦੀ ਯਾਦ ਵਿਚ). But one who feels good only when good is done for him (by his Beloved), and feels bad when things go badly – do not call him a lover. (Because) he trades (with his Beloved, i.e. his love is based on Mayaic calculations…). ||1|| (sggs 474).
Accordingly, love is meaningless if it is motivated by selfishness (Mayaic calculations – ਨਫੇ ਨੁਕਸਾਨ ਦਾ ਲੇਖਾ ਜੋਖਾ …). In other words, selfish love is just soulless. And a soulless person cannot be a True Lover.

However, as the Gurbani indicates, in the True Love, the Lover forgets his false self-identity (Aapaa-Bhaav: ਆਪਾ-ਭਾਵ). For he is desireless.

The false self (Haumai) is crooked, deluded, ruled by subtle and sneaky Bikaars (lust, anger, greed, etc.). In other words, a false lover is ever preoccupied with gratifying his senses or worldly desires.

•ਆਸਕੁ ਆਸਾ ਬਾਹਰਾ ਮੂ ਮਨਿ ਵਡੀ ਆਸ ॥: Aasaku aasaa baaharaa moo mani vadee aas: The lover is (the true lover such as the Gurmukh – the follower of Truth …) without desires, but within my mind, there is great desire (i.e., my mind is full of mundane desires). (sggs 1100).
Nevertheless, the Haumai mind (devoid of Aatam-Giaan, Spiritual Wisdom …), always thinks that it can gratify all mundane desires (which is impossible) and at the same time it can Realize the True Love or the Truth!

If pure Love is pure Giaan (Aatam-Giaan, Divine Knowledge, pure Awareness, Wisdom, Virtues ….), then the false love is ignorance (ਅਗਿਆਨਤਾ, Maya’s hunger …), which causes depression, stress, regrets, “burn” (torching of one’s Spiritual life, Divine Knowledge, Virtues – ਆਤਮਕ ਜੀਵਨ, ਗਿਆਨ, ਗੁਣ ਜਾਲ ਕੇ ਸੁਆਹ ਕਰ ਲੈਣੇਂ …), and so on.

•ਦੁਨੀਆ ਕੇਰੀ ਦੋਸਤੀ ਮਨਮੁਖ ਦਝਿ ਮਰੰਨਿ ॥: Dunieeaa keree dosatee manmukh dajhi maranni: Making worldly friendships (the love of Maya), the Manmukhs (self-willed …) burn and die (i.e., destroy their spiritual life, Virtues, Wisdom – ਆਤਮਕ ਜੀਵਨ/ਗਿਆਨ/ਗੁਣ ਜਾਲ ਕੇ ਸੁਆਹ ਕਰ ਲੈਂਦੇ ਹਨ). (sggs 755).

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Religion, Faith, Spirituality / Comparing Life to Others’
« on: December 24, 2011, 07:21:07 PM »
We are all actors on this stage of the life. Since life is a journey, during this journey on earth, we all play our unique role. At the end of the play, the curtain falls or closes, and we depart from this world. The Gurbani urges us not to compare life to others’. Because we have no idea what others’ journey is all about.

•ਫਰੀਦਾ ਦੇਖਿ ਪਰਾਈ ਚੋਪੜੀ ਨਾ ਤਰਸਾਏ ਜੀਉ ॥੨੯॥: Fareedaa dekh paraaee choparree naa tarasaae jeeou ||29||: Says Fareed, if you see someone else’s buttered bread (i.e., betterment…), do not envy him for it ||29|| (sggs 1379).
The term ਤਰਸਨਾ (Tarasanaa) = to long, to desire eagerly, to feel envious, etc.; ਤਰਸਾਨਾ (Tarasaanaa) = to cause to long or desire, to set agog…

It’s not that the Gurbani does not want us eat buttered bread (if we have it), its simply indicating to us not to compare life with others’. If we do insist on comparing life with others’, we will certainly end up feeling jealous at their betterment. This will only make us angry, greedy, lustful (full of cravings, desires, longings …), resentful, unhappy, miserable, and so on. Which, in turn, will only further ruin our mental balance, real perspective of life …

In a way, the above verse of the Gurbani is a simple self-test: when others get what they wish, and we are sad and unhappy, it means we are inflicted with the ailment of comparing our life with others’.

Comparing life with others’ also makes us worry as we ponder over and over again: “why I don’t have what the other person has?”, and so on. Worry is worse than a pyre. For a pyre burns a dead person, but worry burns a person alive!

The Gurbani tells us that so long we are worry ridden, we will not be able eradicate our false ego-sense (Haumai), and realize our Mool (our True self, our True Nature, our Source, our Origin, Aatam-Giaan…). In other words, in all this turmoil, we cannot conduct Inner Inquiry (Spiritual quest, ਆਤਮਕ ਜੀਵਨ ਦੀ ਖੋਜ…).

•ਬਹੁ ਚਿੰਤਾ ਚਿਤਵੈ ਆਪੁ ਨ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥: Bahu chintaa chitavai aapu n pashaanaa: With the mind distracted by acute worry, one cannot recognize his own (True self, Mool…) (sggs 159).
If we took the strengths of others, and compared them to our own weaknesses or shortcomings (including what others have, like houses, cars, money, titles, status, education, and so on), this would neither make us to size up nor this would make us feel good about ourselves.

Then why do it? There will always be those who are better, and those who are worse. In other words, the Gurbani is urging us to count our own blessings – count what we have, not what we don’t have.

Life is not a competition! Therefore, the Gurbani asks us not to waste life in comparing and competeing (“ਰੀਸ”) with others’ (ਮੂਰਖੁ ਹੋਵੈ ਸੁ ਉਨ ਕੀ ਰੀਸ ਕਰੇ ਤਿਸੁ ਹਲਤਿ ਪਲਤਿ ਮੁਹੁ ਕਾਰਾ ॥੨॥: Moorakh hovai su oun kee rees kare tisu halati palati muhu kaaraa ||2||, sggs 733).

So, the Gurbani encourages us to enjoy one’s own life without comparing it with that of others’. We are encouraged by the Gurbani to develop this Awareness (Gurmukh Lifestyle).

To this end, we can substitute Love for comparison …


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Complaints / Re: IceColdRider report
« on: December 23, 2011, 12:59:32 PM »

@ Gurpinder Mand :

Bai..matlab thodde kehn da eh aa ke main apni gal kehn to pehla 100 post kara, thonnu jakeen dilava ke main IceColdRider hi haa...? lol
Good idea yaar..22nd dec di register date aa phir oh v date pata kar lao jado main ban hoya c...

Hun agli post main ohi purani id to karanga kyunki oh unban ho chuki aa.

vaisa yaar dhyaan na tuwi ni read karda mae ta bai tenu kush kaya ni tera manu pata tu ice aa tae apne haq layi larr raya changi galh larro, tere ta yaar manu lambae-2  comment pardahn vich bahut changae lagdae, tae kush sikhan nu milda, k debate kida kari di naale kadae vich tu punjabi dae oh lafaz varat janda jirdae bardae majbooti naal oh galh nu sumbaal dae a, tae aam tor tae oh word pj tae nai dikh dae...

baki veer dhyan naal dekh oh 100 post vala reply mae kinu kiti aa .... chal jae ni ta mai dass dinda oh mae @jairnail singh tae kiti, veer dhyan naal read karo yaar ..... ungal chakan toa phela dekh laya karo message kinu kita baki veer galtia ta ho jandia koi galh ni ....

ho janda mistake kdae kdae :hehe:

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Complaints / Re: IceColdRider report
« on: December 23, 2011, 12:02:35 PM »
ice kyon jahoot boli janda awiii . enabada messge likh ke proff karna chunda tu eh samj nahi aundi . .  awi bina gallo pange layi janda . 
 i know ratanjot oh kise nu kadey kush kandi jina cir mohre wala kush galt nah kahee . bakiii tu app samjdarr hai . jey panga lana kise mundey nall awi kuriyaa nall larr ke shunk poora kari janda


hun sorry yaar par dekhya jawe ess post karan vale valh k oh ous user nu kina k jaan da hao jo haje kalah december 22 nu register hoya tae pj aah vali ous di first post howe : pheli galh, aah id fake aa kis di aa post toa ta ayi sabah laya janda k aah kis trafa galh kar raya ous bandae di ho sakdi. duji galh, ess di aah post manh ni jaa sakdi kyu k ess nu ghato ghat 100 post kar k aah prosa davona chayi da k haan aah banda sachi pj da user aa.

baki again sorry yaar mai ni c reply karni chounda ess banda comment dil mallo mallo pher hass pya k aah kaun tae ki karna ki dasna chounda ..

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Complaints / Re: IceColdRider report
« on: December 23, 2011, 11:52:01 AM »
mae athae spam ni karna chounda aah ice bai da topic tae grendae singh ji judge, mera haq ni reply karna par pher thoadya ana gandhi treekae naal likhya dekh k mae ayi dasna chounda aa k apni language da sahi trekkae naal upjog kitaya ayi respect vadh di aa.

jae tusi meri line vich aggae 3 dot dekho gae , jae tusi samjdar o tae samaj jao gae k ous line aggae b haa par manu jida jaroot c mae ohna likh ta manu likhan di lor ni c, manu pata ous da aggae b hega ta ous da ki matlab.

baki no more comment.

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Complaints / Re: IceColdRider report
« on: December 23, 2011, 11:37:21 AM »
mae bardae komal subah na thodae aggae apni galti manh da.. vaisa forum public vastae users vastae k oh apne view dae sakan par pher v mae apni galti manh da athae reply karan tae ... ice, grenade and etc.

mae kush khaas ni khena chounda bas manu hassa jaya aa gya aah vali line read kar k "mein ajj tak kisse nu glat reply nahi kita..." bass mae hor kush ni khena chounda bas ayi dasna chounda k manu hassa aa gya aah line read kar k.



baki jae kisae nu mere ada dasan tae bura laga tae manu dass dayo mae dubara apni feeling ni dasda ...

thats it.
Mand.

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PJ Games / Re: What's your latest purchases?
« on: December 23, 2011, 09:26:14 AM »
enna khayal hain ...
ha ha ha
22 orange v khaya kar ...

orange v kah layi da bai par mae ta last purchase dass raya c bai... :hehe:

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PJ Games / Re: What's your latest purchases?
« on: December 23, 2011, 09:10:31 AM »
 seab(apple)  mere khyaal ayi meri last purchase c  :happy:

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PJ Games / Re: tusi kis nu like karde aa pj te?
« on: December 23, 2011, 09:04:27 AM »
koi ni.....

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Fun Time / Re: ਬਾਰੀ ਬਰਸੀ ਖੱਟਣ
« on: December 23, 2011, 08:56:57 AM »
:hehe: ......

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Help & Suggestions / Re: User of the day
« on: December 23, 2011, 08:47:14 AM »
MANU LAGDA USER OF THE MONTH RAKH LAO....
AGGAE VIDEOL OF THE DAY KARI HAR ROJ CHANGE HO JANDI 1 WEEK IKO VIDEO CHAL DI REHANDI AA..

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......  X_X

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BAHUT VADIYA KAVITA VEERE.

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APA GANDHIA CHEEZA CHETI SIKH JANDAE ... BAI NET VICH CHANGIA CHEEZA V BAHUT NAE JINA NU DEKH K APA NU MAAJA NI ANDA JIWE VEER APA KITAB KHOL DAE TAE NEENDH AA JANDI ADA OHNA SITE KHOLAN NAAL VEER APA BORE HO JANDAE .....  8->

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Maan-Sanmaan/Respect+ / Re: PJ Chat Mod - Ankhi Punjaban
« on: December 23, 2011, 07:59:52 AM »
CONGRATS  HASMUKH JI  :happy: .

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Maan-Sanmaan/Respect+ / Re: PJ Chat Mod - Pawan Jatt
« on: December 23, 2011, 07:56:02 AM »
Mubarakaa bai ji...

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News Khabran / Re: Roll Laptop Amazing new Technology 2012
« on: December 23, 2011, 07:46:18 AM »
thats really good man

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Shayari / Mehran Wale Saiyan
« on: December 21, 2011, 02:34:09 PM »
Mehran Wale Saiyan Sanu Charna Naal Jod
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Paunda Aan Aan Gherey Ehna Kandeya Nu Tod
Mehran Wale Saiyan Sanu Charna Naal Jod
Paap Bahut Kmaayi Jande Giney Na Ginaye
Aakhaan Kisnu Sunaye Mande Bhaaga De Dosh
Mehran Wale Saiyan Sanu Charna Naal Jod
Digha Dar Tere Aake, So So Thokran Main Kha Ke
Aakhan Vaasta Main Paa Ke Mainu Khali Na Mod
Mehran Wale Saiyan Sanu Charna Naal Jod

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