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Help & Suggestions / Re: I need a favor from Facebook wali Janta
« on: September 21, 2010, 08:10:57 PM »
Mein kinni respectfully Thanks Mangeya c... Bus i like to collect Thanks.. Koyee gai naiji.. Tuhada v thanks kar dinde aa

lolz kadae tusi b ... thanks dae daya karo ... Receive 94 Given 23 :loll:

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Help & Suggestions / Re: I need a favor from Facebook wali Janta
« on: September 21, 2010, 07:32:32 PM »
done...

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 :lost: ?

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Shayari / Re: Bullet
« on: September 21, 2010, 07:15:48 PM »
funny c na bro


:laugh:


guglo nae lagda read ni kita ohda ghaint likh gae  :happy:


 :rockon: :rockon:

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Religion, Faith, Spirituality / Re: Lets do Prayer
« on: September 21, 2010, 06:54:43 PM »
satnam sri waheguru

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satnam sri waheguru  :rabb:

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satnam sri waheguru   :rabb:

so the moral is dont try to hurry wait a good time you will get fruits.

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Religion, Faith, Spirituality / Re: 1947 Rawalpindi Shaheedis
« on: September 21, 2010, 06:50:14 PM »
satnam sri waheguru ....

i never heard this one before when i was looking for a sakhi and i found this and when i read i shocked.  :rabb:

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Religion, Faith, Spirituality / Re: Sant Nidhan Singh Ji
« on: September 21, 2010, 06:47:09 PM »
Thankyou guglo ji ...  8->

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Religion, Faith, Spirituality / Re: Bhai Soma Shah
« on: September 21, 2010, 06:46:35 PM »
satnam sri waheguru  :rabb:

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Religion, Faith, Spirituality / Re: Shaheed Bibi Anup Kaur
« on: September 21, 2010, 06:46:03 PM »
satnam sri waheguru  :rabb:

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THANK YOU GREWAL AND GUGLO JI.... MANU LAGDA GREWAL NAE BINA PADYA AYI GUD 1 KAH TA  :happy:

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thank  you imarii and mamu 22ji..

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Religion, Faith, Spirituality / Re: The Truth behind 'Sukha'
« on: September 21, 2010, 07:35:22 AM »
The shame brought to the image of the Akali Baana from intoxicated nihungs.

This story is about some Nihangs who supported anti-Sikh elements. There were and are many Gursikh Nihangs in the Panth like Baba Mitt Singh jee and Akali Kaur Singh jee, but many in the costume of Nihangs have in the past and continue today to attack the Panth and serve anti-Panthic interests. Bhai Sahib Randheer Singh jee and a big Jatha of Singhs and Singhnees, led by Bibi Joginder Kaur also drove out corrupt Nihangs/Nangs from Gurdwara Chamkaur Sahib.

This story begins after the Panth had taken control over Sree Akaal Takhat Sahib and the corrupt "pujaris" had run away. These pujaris refused to accept the Karah Parshaad of "low castes" and when a Jatha of Singhs came to offer Karah Parshaad with a former "low caste" a hukumnama was taken from Sree Guru Granth Saahib jee and the hukumnama clearly said that even the lowest were transformed by the Guru and Sikhi had no place for caste. The Pujaris then ran away from the Takhat and abandoned their posts. This historic day was October 12, 1920. The story begins here:


*************

The Pujaris of Sree Akaal Takhat Sahib brought the "Nihangs" who were staying at Burj Baba Phoola Singh jee 5 goats, 5 sacks of sugar, almonds, flour and other supplies. They collected the Nihangs together and with folded hands said "Nihang Singh jee! Sree Akaal Takhat belongs to the Nihangs, you are its caretaker. Look! The Mallechh (impure) Khalsa, those Singh Sabbhias, have taken it over. You prepare yourselves, and we'll give the control of the Takhat to you.

At that time, the Nihangs had taken Sukha (cannibis drink) and were fully intoxicated. The Pujari's proposal was immediately accepted. Jathedar Sahib Singh jee Nihang ordered, "We'll slaughter the goats in the morning, now we should get ready to take over Sree Akaal Takhat".

At 12pm, a group of 50 Nihangs arrived at Sree Akaal Takhat Sahib and sat down there. Jathedar Kartar Singh jee Jhabbar was in Bazaar Mai Sevaa(n) and was told that the Nihangs had now taken control of the Takhat. Jathedar Jhabbar was preparing to leave for Panja Sahib but had to change his plans. He went and stood under the balcony in front of Sree Akaal Takhat Saahib. A Nihang saw him and called out "Bhai Kartar Singh Jhabbar! You're a Jathedar (so I'll talk to you). My name is Gopal Singh Giani. I'm the secretary for the Nihang Jatha. We've thrown you out of here (the Takhat) and taken control."

Jhabbar replied, "Sree Nihang Singh jee! You shouldn’t' challenge other Singhs like this. You stay put and I'll be back soon."

A Jatha of Akalis was coming at that time near the Bunga of Maanaavalay. Bhai Teja Singh Bhuchhar was accompanying it as well. Jhabbar stopped this Jatha and told them what had happened and explained that they should wait before taking action as ther were a lot of Nihangs and another Jatha of Akalis was coming. Soon, the Dhoori vala Malvai Jatha under Gajjan Singh also arrived. Jathedar Jhabbar stopped the Jatha by Laichi Ber and explained that the Nihangs were also Singhs and brothers so they shouldn't be attacked. First they should be talked too and have the situation explained.

Jathedar Jhabbar went before the Takhat and called out, "Nihang Singh jee! The management of the Takhat is now in the hands of the Panth. Please leave." The Nihangs however were intoxicated with Sukha and ignored these words. Jathedar Jhabbar tried to make them understand but they would not listen. They instead began to speak insulting words in return.

Jathedar Jhabbar then stepped back and motioned towards his Jatha. At this, the Khalsa, like lions arrived at the Takhat. They grabbed the Nihangs and threw them down. In the Malvai Jatha, there was an 18 year old daughter of a Subedar, Bibi Bhajan Kaur who was badly beating the Nihangs and was throwing them down. The Bibi grabbed one Nihang and was dragging him by the leg but Jathedar Jhabbar released him. The Bibi, who had a staff in her hands, then went and struck at Jathdar Sahib Singh and attacked him. Finally, two Singhs had to hold this Bibi back and prevent her from attacking even more.

Many Nihangs ran away and the rest were surrounded. Hearing all the commotion, a lot of Singhs from the city also arrived. One Singh suggested that the Nihangs be handed over to the police. Another Singh brought a piece of paper and said to Jathedar Sahib Singh, "write on this paper that you've made a mistake and the Panth should forgive you. Then put your thumbprint on it and we'll let you go." Jathedar Sahib Singh put his thumbprint on the paper and the Nihangs were forgiven. Later it was found out that Giani Gopal Singh, the one who had challenged the Singhs had run away from a back door. The Singhs from the city brought some carts and the Nihangs were put on them and taken back to ChhaoNee Burj Baba Phoola Singh. (Taken from the book "Kartar Singh Jhabbar")

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Religion, Faith, Spirituality / The Truth behind 'Sukha'
« on: September 21, 2010, 07:31:35 AM »
See below the description of Shahid Bhai Mani Singh

ਸਜ ਦੁਮਾਲਾ ਸ਼ਸਤਰ ਪਹਿਰੈ I (He would tie a Dumalla on his head and wear Shashtar)

ਨੀਲੰਬਰ, ਗਜ ਸਵਾ ਕਛਹਿਰੈ I (He wore a Blue bana and had a long Kachera – sava gaj)

ਪਕੜ ਦੁਤਾਰਾ ਗਾਵੈ ਬਾਣੀ I (He would hold a saaj and sing Gurbanee)

ਆਸਾ ਵਾਰ ਸੁਖਾਂ ਦੀ ਖਾਣੀ I ੧੮੨ I (He would recite Asaa Vaar and receive the food of peace)

In the same way a similar thing is mentioned in Prachin Panth Prakash about Baba Gurbaksh Singh in his daily routine at Amritvela. It says ਪ੍ਰਾਤ ਉਠੇ ਅਰ ਸੁੱਖਾ ਪੀਵੇ I
Even the modern nihungs would have to admit that this is referring to Naam/Gurbanee here in that context. You would have to be a junkie to be having this as the first thing you do when you get up.

So the terminology of Sukha has sometimes been misinterpreted by some including historians.

However the mention of Sukha as drug also appears in some books, this version of Sukha seems to start appearing in the books of the 19th century. I have not seen it being mentioned in anything credible written in the 18th century, however others can correct me on this. The 19th century seems to be the period of wide spread mal practices in Gurmat and this is well documented.

So initially the use of Sukha may have been introduced for the weaker ones but it has now been turned into some sort of Maryada and a social/recreational drug. It does not serve any purpose in a normal GurSikh’s life.

This is only my analysis on this subject, however I am open to listen to other sensible views from supporters of the Sukha drug on its history and relevance with some proof other than something written in the 19th century.


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Written History of the Khalsa

The Khalsa has no equal, its history and glory can not be matched. Each page of its grand history is lined with greatness. The only misfortune has been the way this history has been recorded. The Khalsa’s constant fight for survival meant that this recording of history was not deemed a priority. This neglect left a vacuum for those who were not completely adverse to the Rehat of the Khalsa to record some of its history. It was not until the Khalsa started to govern the plains of Punjab that some significant material could be gathered and recorded, the elapse of time meant that even this recording was prone to distortion because of weaknesses in Rehat that had crept in.

I don’t think that the vast majority of what has been recorded was written mischievously to distort the facts rather I think the distortion has been down to human error and perception. An author will tend to write what he deems to be correct or what he practices. So if any writer was not to follow the Khalsa Rehat then his writings would be subject to inaccuracies.

Things have not changed much we still find people writing on the subject of modern Sikh History who have given a distorted picture. You tend to feel that maybe this is way it is supposed to be with us, with only the few real seekers discovering the Tath-truth. There has however been the odd writer that has left a mark of Tath for others to grasp.


Finding the Neglected Evidence

At a personal level I have tried to look our written history at source and may be try to bridge the missing gaps that our modern historians have neglected. I’ve tried to focus on the subject of Rehat and have tried to find evidence that has not been presented. In my limited search I have come across a few discoveries. One of the most significant being the one related to Sarbloh Rehat, which I am presenting below.

Although there have been many references to Sarbloh Rehat in many languages, people have still tried to make the excuse for the limited mention of Sarbloh for utensils/cooking. However the mention of dietary Bibek in historical writings has been abundant.

I came across the mention of this specific Sarbloh Rehat in Singh Sagar Granth written by Vir Singh Bal completed in 1827. This Granth is older than Pracheen Panth Prakash and Gurpartap Suraj Granth written in 1841 and 1843 respectively. Although being older than these two granths it rarely gets a mention and very little is quoted from it. From my limited observation I have found Singh Sagar Granth to be more in tune with Gurmat values than the other two not to say that Pracheen Panth Prakash and Gurpartap Suraj Granth have nothing to offer.


Vir Singh Bal – The Author

The author Vir Singh Bal was born in Sathiala (near Baba Bakala), Amritsar around 1785. He was the grandson of Sabha Singh Bal and was the son of Bakhat Singh Bal. There is not much detail known about the life of Vir Singh Bal other than he went to serve in the Patiala Darbar as a Kavi where he wrote most of his writings including Singh Sagar Granth and Gurkirat Prakash Granth. Some have said he went to many deras before his service at the Patiala Darbar but was not satisfied, this might indicate where he attained the art of various languages. One thing is for sure that he must have had the opportunity to see and hear from GurSikhs who might have been contemporaries of Guru Gobind Singh Jee or his close associates making his writings very valuable.

There is something however very distinctive from the writings of Vir Singh Bal and that is his love for Guru Gobind Singh Jee. It seems to be more than some literally love, he seems to be a devout believer in Guru Gobind Singh Jee specifically. This affection is engraved in his literature even in the non religious literature. Below is an example from his Ranjha Heer poetry:

- ਮੇਰੀ ਬੰਦਨਾ ਗੁਰੂ ਗੋਬਿੰਦ ਸਿੰਘ ਜੀ ਨੂੰ, ਜਿਹੜਾ ਮਾਲਕ ਸਰਬ ਸਰੀਰ ਦਾ ਜੀ II
ਜਾਨਮਾਲ ਕੁਰਬਾਨ ਗੋਬਿੰਦ ਸਿੰਘ ਤੇ, ਸਾਨੂੰ ਜ਼ੋਰ ਗੋਬਿੰਦ ਸਿੰਘ ਪੀਰ ਦਾ ਜੀ II
ਸਦਾ ਆਸਰਾ ਗੁਰੂ ਗੋਬਿੰਦ ਸਿੰਘ ਜੀ ਦਾ, ਜਿਕੂੰ ਮੀਨ ਨੂੰ ਆਸਰਾ ਨੀਰ ਦਾ ਜੀ II


- ਸੋਢੀ ਪਾਤਸ਼ਾਹ ਜੀ ਜਾਣੀ ਜਾਣ ਹੈ ਤੂੰ, ਕੋਰੋ ਆਸ ਪਰੀ ਮਾਹਰਾਜ ਮੇਰੀ I
ਵੀਰ ਸਿੰਘ ਨੂੰ ਜ਼ੋਰ ਤੁਸਾਡੜਾ ਹੈ, ਰਖ ਗੁਰੂ ਗੋਬਿੰਦ ਸਿੰਘ ਲਾਜ ਮੇਰੀ I


Then in his Baramah this emotion is extensively presented in paragraph after paragraph, some examples are given below :

- ਪਲ ਪਲ ਵੀ ਤੇ ਸੈ ਵਰਿਆ ਦਾ, ਬਿਨਾਂ ਗੋਬਿੰਦ ਸਿੰਘ ਮੈ ਮਰ ਜਾਂਦਾ, ਘੜੀ ਨ ਜੀਂਵਦਾ I

- ਗੁਰੂ ਤੇ ਬੀਰ ਸਿੰਘ ਬਲਿਹਾਰ, ਗੁਰ ਪਰ ਵਾਰਿਆ ਸਭ ਪਰਿਵਾਰ, ਮੈਨੂੰ ਦੇਈ ਸਦਾ ਦਿਦਾਰ, ਮੈਂ ਵਿਚ ਔਗੁਣ ਲਖ ਹਜ਼ਾਰ, ਤੈਂ ਬਿਨ ਕੋ ਨਾ ਬਖਸਨਹਾਰ, ਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ I ਜਯੋਂ ਭਾਵੈ ਤਯੋਂ ਤਾਰ, ਬਿਰਦ ਬਿਚਾਰ ਕਰ I

Having conveyed such sentiments in his literature I have no doubt that he must have either been a follower of Guru Gobind Singh Jee’s Rehat or close to sangat following such Rehat.

Vir Singh Bal wrote two Granths exclusively on Gursikhee the first being GurKirat Prakash based on the 10 Gurus that was completed in 1824 and the other being Singh Sagar based on the life of Guru Gobind Singh Jee completed in 1827. He has written many other non-GurSikhee literature while serving as a Kavi in the Patiala Darbar, the first most notable one being Kiasaa Ranjha Heer Daa written in 1812.

An image from the Begigining of Gurkirat Prakash written by Vir Singh Bal

The Evidence - Sarbloh Rehat Bachan

Singh Sagar Granth is solely based on the life of Guru Gobind Singh Jee written in Brij language following on from the ‘Bilas’ parampara of writings. A copy of this Granth is kept at Moti Bagh Library Patiala ref no 102 it has 250 pages of content.

The evidence of Sarbloh Rehat appears in the 12th chapter of Chamkaur Judh. The Bachan of Sarbloh Rehat is given after meeting Pir Muhammad. Guru Gobind Singh Jee has been recorded to have said the following Vaach-Bachan




ਸ੍ਰੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਵਾਚ ਚੌਪਈ

ਤਬ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਗੁਰ ਇਹ ਵਾਕ ਉਚਾਰੇ ਹਾਲੀ ਜਾ ਜਬ ਖੇਤ ਮਝਾਰੇ I

ਸਰਬ ਲੋਹ ਕੀ ਫਾਲੀ ਭਈ I ਖੇਤ ਲੁਣਨ (ਕੱਟਣਾ) ਦਾਤੀ ਲੋਹ ਲਈ II ੭੭ II

ਗਾਹਿ ਨਾਜੁ ਜਬ ਮਿਣਨੇ ਲਾਰੋ ਮੁੰਦ੍ਰਾ(ਖਾਣਾ) ਲੋਹ ਮੇ ਪਗ ਲਤਾਰੋ I

ਤਾਸ ਤੀਆ ਜਬ ਛੜਨੈਂ ਗਈ I ਮੂਸਲ ਸਿਯਾਂਮ ਲੋਹ ਨਿਰਮਈ II ੭੮ II

ਚੱਕੀ ਲਗੀ ਪੀਸਣੈਂ ਦਾਣੇ I ਕਿੱਲੀ ਲੋਹ ਸਕਲ ਜਗੁ ਜਾਣੇ I

ਮੋਇ ਮੈਦਾ ਜਬ ਤਾਮੁ (ਭਾਂਡਾ) ਬਢਾਇਯੋ I ਸਰਬ ਲੋਹ ਕਾ ਤਵਾ ਤਪਾਇਯੋ II ੭੯ II

ਜਬੈ ਕੀਜੀਐ ਭੇਟ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾਣਾ I ਤਬ ਹੀ ਹੋਤ ਰਵਾ (ਜਾਇਜ਼) ਯਾਹਿ ਖਾਂਣਾ I

ਜੇ ਜਗ ਮਾਂਹਿ ਮੁਰੀਦ ਹਮਾਰੇ I ਕਰਦ ਫੇਰ ਸਭ ਕਰਤ ਅਹਾਰੇ II ੮੦ II


Here Guru Gobind Singh Jee starts off by illustrating the role of a Farmer in his fields explaining that Sarbloh is the tool to employ for his Khalsa to carry out his routine in the same way a Farmer would use his tool to cut his fields. Guru Jee further explains that food needs to placed in Loh (Iron) and that Loh (Iron) is the medium in which negativity is crushed. Guru Jee also mentions the need to do Kripan Bhet in order to make the food worthy for consumption.


Ja Tusi Read kita, tae thallae shoti ji summary likh dayo !

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Religion, Faith, Spirituality / Guru Granth Sahib: Pad Chhed Printing
« on: September 21, 2010, 06:57:19 AM »
Guru Granth Sahib: Pad Chhed Printing
(Bhai Manmohan Singh Jee LA)

It is a fact made explicitly clear by the Satguru himself that Gurbani in Sri Guru Granth Sahib is the Word of God Himself. The Alighty Akal Purakh spoke through the Gurus in their state of oneness with Him:

Jiasee Mein Aawai Khasam Ki Bani Taisara Kari Gian Ve Lalo. (ang. 52)
As descends to me the Lord's Word, I express it, 0 Lalo!

Dhur Ki Bani Aaee. (ang. 628)
The Holy Word has dawned from the Primal Divine Source.

While compiling Sri Guru Granth Sahib, The whole Gurbani was written in Gumukhi script in a continuous chain system of writing, wherein all the words in a line are joined together. Having emanated from the Limitless Divine Source or the Eternal Spirit, its true and correct reading as well as understanding is obviously beyond the limited capacity of the mundane scholarship. Even today, in spite of the hard efforts of the top Sikh scholars to ascertain the correct reading of the Gurbani, there are about 500-700 words where they have not been able to reach a consensus. Then what is the guarantee that in other controversial cases also, where they claim to have reached an agreed break-up of words, their reading is absolutely in accordance with what the Satguru had meant it to be?


Moreover, Sri Guru Granth Sahib is not merely a Holy Book. Had it been so, it would have been alright to print or write it in any way one likes. Sri Guru Granth Sahib is the Satguru - the True Guru - under whose benevolent care and protection, the Khalsa Panth has been placed by the Satguru himself. If it is so and we really believe in the True Guruship of the Sri Guru Granth Sahib, then it follows as an obvious corollary that the Satguru will himself remove our ignorance and will bless us with the true wisdom enabling us to read Gurbani correctly.

It is a universally accepted fact that, as already pointed out, the first volume of Sahib Sri Guru Granth Sahib, compiled by Sahib Sri Guru Aijan Dev Ji, was written in continuous form with all the words in a line joined to one another. Later, the Bir on which Sahib Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji formally invested the GURUSHIP for all times to come, was also of the same type. On this basis, until recently, Sri Guru Granth Sahib was written or printed on the same pattern. No doubt some effort is needed to enable the beginner in reading such volumes, but such difficulties are always faced by beginners in every new field of knowledge. Until only a few decades ago, when the so-called literacy level was also low, devout Sikhs living even in remote villages were able to read such volumes by following systematic and rational methodology, i.e., first practicing difficult Banis from Gutkas and Pothis under the guidance of certain learned and devout Gianis or Granthis. Only after they developed some amount of confidence in their reading of the Bani, they used to be introduced to the reading of Sri Guru Granth Sahib in a formal ceremony - Gurcharni Lagna - after saying Ardas or prayers. Now, when the literacy percentage as well as the level of education is reported to have increased manifold, we are finding difficulties in reading from Sri Guru Granth Sahib printed in joined or continuous system. Our difficulty is the result of our own complacency because we do not want to take even elementary pains of going through preparatory stages as Gursikhs in the past used to do. We are prepared to do the hardest of labor for learning other fields of arts and sciences to which we attach much higher priority. The reading of Sri Guru Granth Sahib, to us, is of very low priority -to be done as and when time or our sweet will permits. Of course, we reap the results according to the priority and devotion we give to the reading and understanding of Gurbani.

Recently, the unity and purity of Sri Guru Granth Sahib have been attacked by some important people and organizations who have been instrumental in the printing of Sri Guru Granth Sahib in Pad-Chhed form, i.e., the printing of words separate from each other. It may be mentioned here that the two main Panthic Organizations, i.e. Chief Khalsa Diwan and S.G.P.C., had categorically prohibited the printing and installation of Sri Guru Granth Sahib in Pad-Chhed form in their resolutions passed in 1945 and 1950, respectively, as follows: Chief Khalsa Diwan Resolution No.2682 dated January 1, 1945.

"..... The installation of PAD CHHED BIR is not legitimate."
S.G.P.C. Resolution No.7 dated January 1, 1950 :PDHARMAK COMMITTEE

"Until any decision is arrived at on Panthic level Pad-Chhed bir should not be printed or installed."

Under what logic an act which was wrong until 1950 has now become right is beyond comprehension. The only explanation given for this metamorphosis is that there is no demand from the general public for the Birs in original form and, therefore, S.G.P.C. itself started the printing of Sri Guru Granth Sahib in Pad-Chhed form, contrary to its own resolution of 1950. Are the Panthic Organizations made to guide the masses or follow them? Now general public amongst the Sikhs is not prepared to take Khande-ki-Pahul or Amrit. Should this system be abolished?

The writing or printing of Sri Guru Granth Sahib in Pad-Chhed ('break-word") system, which was against the original continuous or chain method used by the Gurus, and even by the Panth until only recently, not only shows an utter lack of faith in Sri Guru Granth Sahib as the True Guru, but is also an attempt to introduce in Gurbani the false wisdom of the imperfect mind of the ever-fallible human. The assertion that Sri Guru Granth Sahib in its original form is difficult to read and often results in wrong reading, and its Pad-Chhed form makes its reading easier, it not so simple as it appears to be. The main point is whether we have the authority and competence to evolve a Perfect and True PadChhed form. At present, various Birs published by private publishers and even the various editions published by the S.G.P.C. itself, vary from one another at a number of places with regard to formation of certain words. All publishers claim their version to be correct, implying, naturally, that the others are incorrect. So now we have Birs which are 'not Perfect' according to some and 'Perfect' according to others. The truth is that Sri Guru Granth Sahib is ALWAYS PERFECT. Only we, the ordinary imperfect people have introduced imperfections in it by commingling our false wisdom with the True Wisdom.

No doubt reading the Gurbani wrongly is sacrilegious. But who can claim to read it absolutely correctly? All of us have to do our best to read it as correctly as we can with prayers in our minds to the Guru to bless us with the required wisdom. It seems to be a more definite sacrilege to introduce such 'incorrectness' or wrong reading permanently in Sri Guru Granth Sahib. Moreover, every printer of Sri Guru Granth Sahib follows his own system of Pad -Chhed and creates more confusion in the minds of the general public. When the Gurbani, which is the treasure house of nothing but the Eternal Wisdom of the Eternal Lord, is diffused with the mundane intellect and false wisdom of the fallible man, the Guru Shakti of Sri Guru Granth Sahib is also impaired accordingly. All of us, the innocent Sikhs of the Guru will suffer; in fact, we are suffering already.

One other reason generally given by the supporters of Pad-Chhed Bir is that, during Guru Sahib's time, the writing in a chain or continuous method was the general practice and that is why this system was followed while compiling Sri Guru Granth Sahib. Do we assume the All-Knowing Guru Sahib did not know that in times to come, the Sikhs will find difficulty in reading Gurbani written in this way? Could he not visualize whether PadChhed would be the proper system for the future? It is only the so-called intellectuals of the modern age who have found this shortcoming in the Perfect Work of the Perfect Lord. What an irony! This shows how much faith we have in the true wisdom of the True Guru.

The fact is that:

Poorey Ka Kiya Sab Kich Poora Ghat Wadh Kichh Nahin. (ang. 1412)
All that the Perfect Lord does is Perfect.
There is no deficiency or excess in it.

Thus it is clear that we have no authority to change the original continuous (or chain) system of writing or printing of Guru Granth Sahib as a whole. Small booklets (Gutkas or small pothies) may, however, be written or printed in Pad-Chhed form for the benefit of the beginners or learners. And this practice has been in vogue for a long time.

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Religion, Faith, Spirituality / Re: Hukamnama
« on: September 21, 2010, 06:46:06 AM »
September 21, 2010, Tuesday 05:15 AM. IST

ਜੈਤਸਰੀ ਮਹਲਾ ੫ ਘਰੁ ੩ ਦੁਪਦੇ ੴ> ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਸਾਦਿ ॥ ਦੇਹੁ ਸੰਦੇਸਰੋ ਕਹੀਅਉ ਪਿ੍ਅ ਕਹੀਅਉ ॥ ਬਿਸਮੁ ਭਈ ਮੈ ਬਹੁ ਬਿਧਿ ਸੁਨਤੇ ਕਹਹੁ ਸੁਹਾਗਨਿ ਸਹੀਅਉ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ ਕੋ ਕਹਤੋ ਸਭ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਕੋ ਕਹਤੋ ਸਭ ਮਹੀਅਉ ॥ ਬਰਨੁ ਨ ਦੀਸੈ ਚਿਹਨੁ ਨ ਲਖੀਐੈ ਸੁਹਾਗਨਿ ਸਾਤਿ ਬੁਝਹੀਅਉ ॥੧॥ ਸਰਬ ਨਿਵਾਸੀ ਘਟਿ ਘਟਿ ਵਾਸੀ ਲੇਪੁ ਨਹੀ ਅਲਪਹੀਅਉ ॥ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਕਹਤ ਸੁਨਹੁ ਰੇ ਲੋਗਾ ਸੰਤ ਰਸਨ ਕੋ ਬਸਹੀਅਉ ॥੨॥੧॥੨॥



English Translation:

JAITSREE, FIFTH MEHL, THIRD HOUSE, DU-PADAS: ONE UNIVERSAL CREATOR GOD. BY THE GRACE OF THE TRUE GURU: Give me a message from my Beloved — tell me, tell me! I am wonder-struck, hearing the many reports of Him; tell them to me, O my happy sister soul-brides. || 1 || Pause || Some say that He is beyond the world — totally beyond it, while others say that He is totally within it. His color cannot be seen, and His pattern cannot be discerned. O happy soul-brides, tell me the truth! || 1 || He is pervading everywhere, and He dwells in each and every heart; He is not stained — He is unstained. Says Nanak, listen, O people: He dwells upon the tongues of the Saints. || 2 || 1 || 2 ||

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Religous Videos / Re: gurudwara sahib in tokyo japan
« on: September 21, 2010, 06:43:11 AM »


sikh dastar naal ja pagg na koi rah nai gaya hun sare budhae rah gae ja bahut young umaar valae baki ta sarya clean shape ayi bethae  :sad:

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Love Pyar / Love
« on: September 20, 2010, 02:54:52 PM »
ਕੰਡਿਆਂ ਚੋ ਖੁਸ਼ਬੂ ਦਾ ਖਿਆਲ ਬੜਾ ਔਖਾ ਏ|
ਕਿਸੇ ਲਈ ਮੁਹੱਬਤ ਦਾ ਸਵਾਲ ਬੜਾ ਔਖਾ ਏ|

ਥੋਹਰ ਤੇ ਉੱਗੇ ਫੁੱਲ ਵਾਂਗ ਹੈ ਜਿੰਦਗੀ,
ਮੇਰੇ ਲਈ ਜਿਉਣ ਦਾ ਖਿਆਲ ਬੜਾ ਔਖਾ ਏ|

ਕੁਝ ਪਲ ਦੇ ਵਿੱਚ ਹੈ ਡੇਰ ਹੋ ਜਾਣੀ,
ਕਿਸੇ ਲਾਸ਼ ਤੋ ਪੁੱਛਣਾ ਹਾਲ ਬੜਾ ਔਖਾ ਏ|

ਕਿਸੇ ਰੁੱਖ ਲਈ ਪਤਝੜ ਦੇ ਦਿਨ ਬੜੇ ਸੁੱਨੇ,
ਜਿਵੇ ਮੇਰੇ ਲਈ ਵਿਛੋੜੇ ਦਾ ਓਹ ਸਾਲ ਬੜਾ ਔਖਾ ਏ|

ਮੌਤ ਤੇ ਜਿੰਦ੍ਗੀ ਚ ਬਸ ਐਨਾ ਕੁ ਫਾਸਲਾ,
ਜਿੰਨਾ ਤੇਰੇ ਮੇਰੇ ਮੇਲ ਦਾ ਸਵਾਲ ਬੜਾ ਔਖਾ ਏ|

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