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Guru Granth Sahib Parkash at NY Sindhi Mandir
« on: May 03, 2009, 12:17:29 PM »
yaro main hune aa ek khabar par k hatea sochea tuade nal sanjha kara ehe.....plzzz apne vichar ess bare jaroor daseo........



SAN FRANCISCO, CA (KP) — Respect for Guru Granth Sahib Campaign, North America was notified that a Sindhi temple based in Jackson Heights, NY was doing parkash of Sri Guru Granth Sahib alongside pictures and statues of Hindu deities in the same complex.  Satya Narayan Mandir which organizers claim is “a place to worship together” also offers services such as Sehaj Path Sahib and Akhand Path Sahib at the mandir and at homes of devotees.

Panthic maryada and Sri Akal Takht Sahib guidelines forbid the parkash of Sri Guru Granth Sahib at any places of worship other than Sikh Gurdwaras. The practice of installing Guru Granth Sahib along with pictures and statues is also unacceptable, as Guru Granth Sahib’s message clearly condemns the worship or reverence of artifacts. It has also come to the notice of the Respect for Guru Granth Sahib Campaign that statues of Guru Nanak Dev Ji are also installed at the temple.

In addition to Sikh ceremonies, the temple also offers other services which are not in line with Gurmat, and also makes its facilities available to the community at ‘reasonable rates.’ Discourses on Bhagwad Gita are delivered daily at the premises, while asa-ki-vaar and hanuman chalisa are recited on a weekly basis. On a monthly basis, the temple also organized ‘Satya Naryan Puja’ and ‘Bahrano’ (special services for the full moon).

Hindu baptism, ‘mundan’ (hair shaving) and other rituals are also carried out at the temple’s premises.

The Respect for Guru Granth Sahib Committee, North America (www.satkar.org) has appealed to the New York Sangat to contact the Sindhi Temple and remove parkash of Guru Granth Sahib from this Hindu mandir immediately and assure that such beadbi is not repeated again at that mandir.

It should be mentioned that the Sikh Community does not oppose the ceremonies of other communities and faiths but the reverence of Guru Granth Sahib Ji is the utmost important concern of the Sikhs and Sikh practices do not allow the parkash of Guru Sahib at Hindu mandirs.



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Guru Granth Sahib Parkash at NY Sindhi Mandir
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Re: Guru Granth Sahib Parkash at NY Sindhi Mandir
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2009, 04:15:50 AM »
ess topic te kise di najar he nai pai............???????? :break: :break: :break:

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Re: Guru Granth Sahib Parkash at NY Sindhi Mandir
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2009, 06:12:35 AM »
I read it, menu samaj ni aundi
like what should I say...
I think its really wrong... its just weird,
its kind of disrespecting, but i dont think that they did it in such a way..
to disrespect it.. Pata nai..
menu lagda they shouldnt do it..

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Re: Guru Granth Sahib Parkash at NY Sindhi Mandir
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2009, 10:26:52 AM »
hanji tusi ek dam sahi keha mano... pata ni kio menu laga... i mean main jada sure nai nd na he kise nu mara keha reha...par i think a kamai vadon da tarika hai hor kuch ni..... sab jande ney k jinni sharda nal mayea guruduware charai jandi kite hor ni chardi.......


main ek din bara ajeeb kam dekhea ethe ludhiane ch..... guru nanak sache patsha da janam dihara on vala si... sawere parwat ferian shuru ho gaian si..... ek din main bahar niklea matha tekan... nd i was shocked k a parwat feri ek mandir di si... asi apne guru nu yad karan lai ode nam di parwat ferian sadia to kadh de aaye ney par o mandir vale kehdi parwat feri kadh rahe si ...menu aaj tak ni samajh aai...... o bhajan ga rahe si... hun a takriban har sal karde ney o... ede piche ki karan ho sakda...?? menu ni pata... ki tusi jande ho??

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Re: Guru Granth Sahib Parkash at NY Sindhi Mandir
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2009, 12:40:47 PM »
Jehde lokan ne eh mandir banaya pehlan tan ohna nu apeyi sochna chahida. Guru Granth Sahib ji vich buttan/moortiya di pooja, aarti, te fokke reet rivajan nu khandan keeteyo aa ke ehna naal tuhanu rabb prapat nahi hona. Te fer ohi loki kidhan Guru Granth Sahib ji nu naal rakh sakde aa.  Two conflicting ideologies that do not go together.

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Re: Guru Granth Sahib Parkash at NY Sindhi Mandir
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2009, 04:45:44 PM »
"Panthic maryada and Sri Akal Takht Sahib guidelines forbid the parkash of Sri Guru Granth Sahib at any places of worship other than Sikh Gurdwaras.  The practice of installing Guru Granth Sahib along with pictures and statues is also unacceptable, as Guru Granth Sahib’s message clearly condemns the worship or reverence of artifacts. "

I am gonna quote and make a comment on this.. ok so we agree that its wrong to have pictures along w/ sggsj?
but what about pictures of our Gurus in our Gurudwaras aswell? Isnt that equaly wrong as well then?
and about having sggsj at any other plaves of worship other than gurudwaras.. what about ppl who keep it at home?
te rahi gall parbaat feri being done by mandir ppl.. as long as they r bringing awareness about our gurus and their teachings... i think its alright :-)

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Re: Guru Granth Sahib Parkash at NY Sindhi Mandir
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2009, 08:50:15 PM »
mein ethe giya haan, te mainu te bass ik he gal ehde peche lagdi paye oh eh hai k bass Indian lokan ney apsi bhai chara ne bhana k rakhna, bass larai pavouni chaoundey

jithon tak ik he Madir vich sare dharam nu ikathey karn de gal hai, oh tan Kapurthala vich be ik Dharmik jangha hai, jehnu  panch mandir(kuj eddan da nam hai) kehde, hun tusi ohnu be band krogey.. uthe be hindu muslim sikh isai

uthe murti jarur laggi hoi hai Sivji te parvatti de per yaar ehde vich ki vaddi gal hai???
oh Hindu religion hai te uthe Sai baba de murti be laggi hai
jehre DHaram India vich hai oh sare uthe iko Place te hai
te mein te guru nanak dev ji de koi murti ne dekhi uthe, eve gupp mari hoi aa
jithon tak "mundan"(hair shaving ) de gal ho rhi te mein kuj nahi keh sakda ess bare vich,not sure

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Re: Guru Granth Sahib Parkash at NY Sindhi Mandir
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2009, 09:29:42 PM »
1. This article is written by Panthic Weekly, a newspaper that I feel is not credible enough.
2. Tankwaley paji, I want to respond to some of your arguments:
"Panthic maryada and Sri Akal Takht Sahib guidelines forbid the parkash of Sri Guru Granth Sahib at any places of worship other than Sikh Gurdwaras.  The practice of installing Guru Granth Sahib along with pictures and statues is also unacceptable, as Guru Granth Sahib’s message clearly condemns the worship or reverence of artifacts. "
Panthic Weekly did not do justice to the Sikh rehat Maryada, here's how the maryada goes (please note the bold lines):
Quote
"e. No book should be installed like and at par with Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Worship of any idol or any ritual or activity should not be allowed to be conducted inside the Gurdwaras. Nor should the festival of any other faith be allowed to be celebrated inside the Gurdwara. However, it will not be improper to use any occasion or gathering for the propagation of the gurmat (The Guru's way).
f. Pressing the legs of the cot on which Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is installed, rubbing nose against walls and on platforms, held sacred, or massaging these, placing water below Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji's seat, making or installing statues, or idols inside the Gurdwaras, bowing before the picture of the Sikh Gurus or elders - all these are irreligious self-willed egotism, contrary to gurmat (the Guru's way)."


I am gonna quote and make a comment on this.. ok so we agree that its wrong to have pictures along w/ sggsj?
but what about pictures of our Gurus in our Gurudwaras aswell? Isnt that equaly wrong as well then?
and about having sggsj at any other plaves of worship other than gurudwaras.. what about ppl who keep it at home?
te rahi gall parbaat feri being done by mandir ppl.. as long as they r bringing awareness about our gurus and their teachings... i think its alright :-)
I think the above pasted maryada answers a lot of your questions, but you may say the Maryada does not apply to non-Sikhs.  So I will make my points again:
- Having pictures or not having pictures is not the issue.  Pictures facilitate religious practice on a visionary level (which is sort of fake, but people find it helpful in reaching God, so I won't say it's wrong). Only Worshipping idols/pictures is the issue (I will present this issue according to Guru Granth Sahib ji at the end).
- Guru Granth Sahib ji is can be kept at anywhere, provided that it is kept in respect.  The sikhs are the custodians (the lowly-students) of the Guru, we want to keep the Guru Granth Sahib ji at a place that meets it's standard (i.e. what it says inside).  It would be disrespectful to keep alcohol (forbidden according to Guru Granth Sahib ji) nearby, similarly, it would be disrespectful to keep idols (forbidden according to Guru Granth Sahib ji).
- I have respect for Sindhis.  I have respect for Hindu religion, or any other religion. I bow in front of the 15 Hindu and Muslim saints that wrote Gurbani inside Guru Granth Sahib ji. I want to treat my Guru with respect and want to politely ask others to treat it with the same respect. Guru Granth Sahib ji's message is universal brotherhood, but this does not mean that some parts of Guru Granth Sahib ji can be ignored, while others prayed to.

Finally, I want to quote a part of Guru Granth Sahib ji that goes against idol worship.  After reading this quote by Guru Nanak Dev ji, how can one allow for idol worship to happen if they want to follow Guru Granth Sahib ji.  It would be hypocritical:

ihMdU mUly BUly AKutI jWhI ]
hi(n)dhoo moolae bhoolae akhuttee jaa(n)hee ||
The Hindus have forgotten the Primal Lord; they are going the wrong way.

nwrid kihAw is pUj krWhI ] AMDy guMgy AMD AMDwru ]
naaradh kehiaa s pooj karaa(n)hee || a(n)dhhae gu(n)gae a(n)dhh a(n)dhhaar ||
As Naarad instructed them, they are worshipping idols. They are blind and mute, the blindest of the blind.

pwQru ly pUjih mugD gvwr ]
paathhar lae poojehi mugadhh gavaar ||
The ignorant fools pick up stones and worship them.

Eih jw Awip fuby qum khw qrxhwru ]2]
ouhi jaa aap ddubae thum kehaa tharanehaar ||2||
But when those stones themselves sink, who will carry you across? ||2||

(This Shabad is by Guru Nanak Dev Ji in Raag Bihaagraa on Pannaa 556.)




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Re: Guru Granth Sahib Parkash at NY Sindhi Mandir
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2009, 09:33:42 PM »
GS bai oh Quote punjabi vich aoundi ne te ohdi Phonetic kuj samaj nahi aoundi

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Re: Guru Granth Sahib Parkash at NY Sindhi Mandir
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2009, 10:08:29 PM »
GS bai oh Quote punjabi vich aoundi ne te ohdi Phonetic kuj samaj nahi aoundi


Sorry that was GurbaniWebThick font. Here's Gurmukhi Unicode with Hindi transliteration:

ਮਃ  ੧  ॥
मः १ ॥
Mėhlā 1.
First Mehl:

ਹਿੰਦੂ ਮੂਲੇ ਭੂਲੇ ਅਖੁਟੀ ਜਾਂਹੀ ॥
हिंदू मूले भूले अखुटी जांही ॥
Hinḏū mūle bẖūle akẖutī jāʼnhī.
The Hindus have forgotten the Primal Lord; they are going the wrong way.

ਨਾਰਦਿ ਕਹਿਆ ਸਿ ਪੂਜ ਕਰਾਂਹੀ ॥
नारदि कहिआ सि पूज करांही ॥
Nāraḏ kahi▫ā sė pūj karāʼnhī.
As Naarad instructed them, they are worshipping idols.

ਅੰਧੇ ਗੁੰਗੇ ਅੰਧ ਅੰਧਾਰੁ ॥
अंधे गुंगे अंध अंधारु ॥
Anḏẖe gunge anḏẖ anḏẖār.
They are blind and mute, the blindest of the blind.

ਪਾਥਰੁ ਲੇ ਪੂਜਹਿ ਮੁਗਧ ਗਵਾਰ ॥
पाथरु ले पूजहि मुगध गवार ॥
Pāthar le pūjėh mugaḏẖ gavār.
The ignorant fools pick up stones and worship them.

ਓਹਿ ਜਾ ਆਪਿ ਡੁਬੇ ਤੁਮ ਕਹਾ ਤਰਣਹਾਰੁ ॥੨॥
ओहि जा आपि डुबे तुम कहा तरणहारु ॥२॥
Ohi jā āp dube ṯum kahā ṯaraṇhār. ||2||
But when those stones themselves sink, who will carry you across? ||2||

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Re: Guru Granth Sahib Parkash at NY Sindhi Mandir
« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2009, 11:52:44 PM »
sat sri akal dosto..... main ess charcha nu aage vadon to pehla ek gall clear kar dea k im not against any religion. main khud mandir janda wa jado v kite mera koi hindu frnd menu nal chalan lai kahe...te adar nal janda majboori nal nai......

par ethe gall sirf eh ho rahi k ki guru granth saheb jee nu oss dharam sathan te rakhea ja sakda jisde rulz sade nalo bilkul vakhre ney....?

main ek example deni chahu...... asi jado he guruduwara saheb te vich enter karde han ser dhak lende han.... a sade guru ney keha hoyea... par mandir ch eda da kuch ni hunda tusi raab di paratima de sahmne v ode to kuch mangde hoye v nange ser reh sakde ho.... fer jado tusi upar dase mandir ch jande ho ta ki eda hunda hou k jado tusi guru granth saheb jee de muhro lango odo ser dhak lao basss......? menu ni lagda k sare eda he karde hone ney ja sewadar ess cheez da kheal rakhde hone ney.....

duja jado aarti da time hunda ja swere guru granth saheb jee de parkash da time hunda.... odo same time te kiddan sara kuch manage kita janda hona.....kio k ohi time hunda jado mandir ch v aarti karni hundi hai......


main ess mandir ch gea ta nai par jiddan k tusi gaye ho pendu main chahu tusi sade mana cho ess cheez nu clear kardo so that charcha hor aage vad sake....

baki main parwat feri vali gall v clear kar dea.... main upar keha hai k o bhajan ga rahe si... main clear kar dea k they were not bringing awareness about our gurus and their teachings. o apne devi dewtea di upasna kar rahe si....

vese avi koi galat nai ....par ohi time kio jado sikh parwat ferian khad rahe hon.....? a ena simple ni hai jinna lag reha... ede piche kise dharam da hath nai balke dharam nu chalon vale dharmik thekedara da hai.... nd ehi gall bass main das reha k upar mandir ch jado guru granth saheb jee nu rakhea gea hona ode piche changa ja mara jo v irada hona o ek dharam de thekedar ney he sochea hona. o galat v ho sakda te sahi v.....

so apa individually ess bare charcha jari rakhie k ki a jo ho reha o sahi hai ja galat...? te eda kita ja sakda aage to v ja nai....??

bohat bohat shukria tuada tank vale 22 tusi ess charcha nu aage vadaea nd tuada v pendu k tusi apna point of view aage rakhea

sab to vadd tuada grenade singh jee eni bariki nal gall samjhon lai..... nd tusi koi time wast ni kita sada...  eda di charcha sade lai nai dujea lai v jaroori hundi aa ehi maksad si mera ethe aa topic likhan da.... umeed a, a topic aje hor kuch der eda he pyar nal chalda rahu......

nd j kise da dil dukhea howe ede nal ta main mafi chona han........

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Re: Guru Granth Sahib Parkash at NY Sindhi Mandir
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2009, 12:21:49 AM »
ek gall hor main v ess cheez de against nai k guru jee dian paintings banaian ja.... jara tusi ek bache de dil nal socho jado asi onu apne guru bare das rahe hoie.. apne guru dian kurbanian bare das rahe hoie.... ta ode mann ch sawal ni aau k guru hai kiddan da ki roop si oda...jado onu jawab na milan ta ki pata o apne mann ch kiddan de guru de chehre nu jagha de dewe... jehri k bohti vadia gall ni honi... ek image tuade mann ch bani honi tuade guru di bari jaroori hai te j o image eda di howe jehde cho noor chalak reha howe ja eda di howe jehde ch guru jee yodha lag rahe hon, ta kya kehne... adha mann ta roh ch ena tasveera nu he dekh k aa janda.....

so main tasveera nu galat ni mannda....

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Re: Guru Granth Sahib Parkash at NY Sindhi Mandir
« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2009, 10:02:11 PM »
dev uthe da jehra pandit hai, or jo be kehna appa ohnu ohne ney sir te pagdi banni hundi aa, mein dekhya vesye ohnu, (yaar do janaeya deyan fotos mere demaag vich mix hoi jandiya ess time)
nangey sir uthey koi nahi janda
entrance vich ik bucket bhar k rumals de rakhi hoi hai

dev yaar appe gal karda k hindu dharam vich v saverey saverey arti hundi or jiddan ve hai
ehda matlab oho ghaddi(time) shub mani jandi...aggr unha ney bharvaat feri kadd ve lau te ki madda kam kar liya oss time, kissye de against te nahi gye oh

jithon tak saverey saverey path pooja di gal chaldi oss barey kuj nahi keh sakda, keuki mein dupehr vehley giya c uthe, 4:00pm time te, ess bare koi idea nahi haiga mere kol


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Re: Guru Granth Sahib Parkash at NY Sindhi Mandir
« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2009, 01:36:50 PM »
par odo he kio jado gurupurav howe ja jado sikh parwat ferian kadh rahe hon.........

khair main mannda k o kise de against ni gaye...
par swer da time j shub hunda ta o sara sal kio ni karde...??
shivratri te kio ni karde..........??


baki meri jinni k soch hai main ode nal he sochda...aage rabb nu pata....... :sad: :sad:

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Re: Guru Granth Sahib Parkash at NY Sindhi Mandir
« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2009, 04:19:37 PM »
22 aa changa nahi hoya ........ :angry: :angry:

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Re: Guru Granth Sahib Parkash at NY Sindhi Mandir
« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2009, 01:36:14 PM »
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Re: Guru Granth Sahib Parkash at NY Sindhi Mandir
« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2009, 10:24:49 PM »
regarding idol worship and picture worship...
question is... were there pictures and paintings at that time too or it was idols only?

because idols are basically 3d pictures at the end of it...

lol and talking about worshiping stones
we should really go to hatt sahib and see whats happening there :-)

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Re: Guru Granth Sahib Parkash at NY Sindhi Mandir
« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2009, 11:37:46 PM »
Waheguru ji ka khalsa
Waheguru ji kee fateh...
sab to pahilan te dev 22 g tuhada bahoot bahoot thanks k tusi eh news sade naal share kiti te sab nu is bare carcha karan da mouka dita... main sab de vichar pade jo v sab ne likhiya...... par jo mere apne vichar aa te jo gurmat rahit maryada kahindi aa ohde anusar chahe othe guru granth sahib di kini v respect hundi hove.. par sanu ek gal nai bhulni chahidi k jithe v kite guru granth sahib ji da parkash aa othe na te kise dehdhari babe nu te na kise murti or pics age matha nai tekiya ja sakda.. te jithe v kite eh hunda oh sarasar galat aa kise v keemat te eh nai houna chahida.. chahe othe ohna da kina v arange hove par eh bilkul galat aa te guru di beyadbi aa na k satkar...... baki rahi gal pics di jehda koi sikh pics agge matha tekhda main ohde bilkul khilaf aa chahe oh pics kise guru sahib di e hove.. pics di value sikh dharam ch sirf eni honi chahidi aa k eh sanu history yaad karvondiyan.. na ki eh k apan guru sahib di pics age matha tekiye.... baki jehda reason dita ja riha is mandir de himatiyan walon k sab dharam nu ek jagah te katha karan lai eh kita giya... kee oh sajan mere es question da jawab de sakde aa....
Sikh dharam de te darwaje har dharam layi khule aa kee sikhan de gurudwariyan ch baki dharam de pooja path v hunde aa ??
i mean kee sikhan ne v gita da ja kuran da parkash kita kise gurughar ch ??
ja fer tusi eh kahna chahune aa k sikh dharam dujiyan dharam de khilaf aa jo oh duje dharam di pooja gurudwariyan ch nai kiti ja jahi ???
Meri hath jod k beyanti aa tuhade sab agge k aware hovo eho jihan cheejan te eh sab RSS de kam aa k sikh religion di desrepect kiti jave kise na kise tareeke naal... te apan nu lod aa ek sur wich jawab den di ehna sab cheezan bare nai te oh din door nai jadon apan v eh v nai patta lagda k asi hindu aa ja sikh...
han ek gal main clear kar dewan k main kise dharam de khilaf nai aa je khilaf aa te RSS de jihna ne sirf te sirf ehi sochiya hoya k sikh dharam nu khatam kive karna.... kayonki hun oh eh gal changi tran jaan gaye aa k sikhan nu lad k khatam nai kita ja sakda... is karke hun ohna ne sade te religios attack shuru kita hoya aa.. main hun v ehi kahna k sab dharam di respect karo... par apne religion di disrespect dekh k akhan na band karo...

Waheguru ji ka khalsa ...
Waheguru ji kee fateh...









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Re: Guru Granth Sahib Parkash at NY Sindhi Mandir
« Reply #18 on: June 05, 2009, 01:30:05 AM »
Sahi keha..Mein b ahi sab paryea..Par pics matlab guruaa de foto ghar la sakde aa..oh ek hisaab naal foto nu matha ni tekde guru nu tekde aa..Par jimme khida..rab dillan de andar vasda..respect karni te diloon kroo..Baki Koi ksise de dharam de khilaaf ni hunda..hallat hudne ne eh..jesnu asi hor treekee naal vekhde chalo ssa Rab rakha

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Re: Guru Granth Sahib Parkash at NY Sindhi Mandir
« Reply #19 on: June 05, 2009, 10:06:19 AM »
Sahi keha..Mein b ahi sab paryea..Par pics matlab guruaa de foto ghar la sakde aa..oh ek hisaab naal foto nu matha ni tekde guru nu tekde aa..Par jimme khida..rab dillan de andar vasda..respect karni te diloon kroo..Baki Koi ksise de dharam de khilaaf ni hunda..hallat hudne ne eh..jesnu asi hor treekee naal vekhde chalo ssa Rab rakha

Waheguru ji ka khalsa...
Waheguru ji kee fateh...

Decent_mithikuri tusi sahi kiha k pics ghar liya sakde aa par ohna nu matha nai tek sakde.... te duji gal jehdi tusi kahi k rab dil de under wasda ..... oh sab nu patta k rab de de under aa... par jadon apan kise school ch admission laine aa te ohde kuch asool hunde aa te oh apan nu follow karne painde aa.. apan eh nai kah sakde te school de layi sade dil ch bahoot pyar aa par asi ohde asool follow nai karne... is taran e sikhi de school te wich kuch asool aa te sanu sab nu oh asool follow karne paine aa ek sikh hon de naate... te jehdi dooji gal tusi kahi aa k koi dharam kise de khilaaf nai hunda.. main manda koi dharam khilaf nai hunda par ohnu manan wale te galat ho sakde aa... ja kuch k sansthawan edan diyan jihna da maksad e duje dharam nu finish karna aa.. jive kee RSS..
je meri eh gal sach nai aa.... te tuhanu kee lagda k june 84 edan de kee haalat ho gaye c k shri harmandir sahib te attack karna piya govt. nu ???? ja fer nov. 84 ch jo delhi hoya oh sab ek incident c ??? je eh kuch sikhan ne karna hunda te oh v hinduyan de gharan nu fuk sakde c te ohna nu maar sakde c june 84 de attack to baad. par sikhan ne sare hinduyan nu nai sirf te sirf ohnu saja diti jihdi galti c.. i mean Indira Gandhi nu... par ohna ne kee kita begunah sikhan nu marna shuru kar dita te chhote chhote bache v nai bakhashe gaye... kee ohna chhote chhote bachiyan ne indira nu mariya c ????? je ehna hinduyan nu apni ma (indira) mari te ena gussa aaya te kee gal jadon piyo (mahatma ghandi) mariya udon ehna di ankh kithe gayi c ???? ja sirf es karke udon eh nai bole k ohnu ek hindu (nathu ram godse) ne mariya c ????? so please be aware all of this otherwise its gonna be very very hard time for our sikhs.... utho te dekho kee ho riha sade naal...
Waheguru ji ka khalsa....
Waheguru ji kee fateh....











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