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A: Some Sikhs do not completely follow the teaching for Sikh Gurus. Gurus instructed to use Singh and Kaur as the last name for male and female to eliminate the caste system. Sikhs that use Gill, Sandhu, Sidhu,Saini extra as their last name and treat Singh and Kaur as their middle name are much interested in preserving their caste. A real Sikh will only use Singh or Kaur as his or her last name...

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so paaji!

tu chahunda aa k es topic te hun behas honi cchahidi??

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eh as far sabh jatt de hi aa nd jatt ta hunde hi rasict :)

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A: Some Sikhs do not completely follow the teaching for Sikh Gurus. Gurus instructed to use Singh and Kaur as the last name for male and female to eliminate the caste system. Sikhs that use Gill, Sandhu, Sidhu,Saini extra as their last name and treat Singh and Kaur as their middle name are much interested in preserving their caste. A real Sikh will only use Singh or Kaur as his or her last name...

Canadian govt consider singh or kaur as a middle name
And immigration only process the case with last name
Tahi te newspaper ch name change section banayia hunda

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eh as far sabh jatt de hi aa nd jatt ta hunde hi rasict :)
Je jatt racist hon ta fer Wisconsin gurudwara sahib ch kise "GORE/WHITE" ne varke punjabi nahi c maarne :) saggo ik jatt ne marne c.... main eh ni kiha ke jatt hi sab kuch aa, but tuhada eh comment bilkul kuch v justify ni krda ke JATT RACIST hunde aa!!

tuhada eh comment iko chiz show krda and u knw that pretty well lado ji.

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A: Some Sikhs do not completely follow the teaching for Sikh Gurus. Gurus instructed to use Singh and Kaur as the last name for male and female to eliminate the caste system. Sikhs that use Gill, Sandhu, Sidhu,Saini extra as their last name and treat Singh and Kaur as their middle name are much interested in preserving their caste. A real Sikh will only use Singh or Kaur as his or her last name...
bhaji eh tuhada bhulekha wa, mere dad te chachu da singh aa and mera sandhu c te main in-process wa mera v SINGH ho jana and mom da KAUR!!!

tusi ik topic ch saare world nu include kar lende je ? kmaal aa yaar!!

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eh as far sabh jatt de hi aa nd jatt ta hunde hi rasict :)

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sachi gal goli vango sine vajdi tu v bhut dhillon dhillon karda
lado ji zrra meri galda v visthaar poorvak jwaab de dinde ta pta lagda ke kihde kehri gal siney ch goli banke vajdi !!

hun tuhanu sari zindagi jinne jatt takre je oh jatt jatt karde firde ta ohde ch kise da ki kasoor, poori dunia ch bathere jatt ne par sab iko jehe te nahi jinne v tuhanu mile aa??
jo gaane wa jattan te bande aa tusi sab sunde v ho ya te fer odo kan band karlya karo.......
 capital letters ch likhan lgga zrra dhyaan deyo "HUN EH NA SOCHYO KE MAIN IKK JATT WA TE TUSI KEHNA KE JATTAN DI SIDE LENDA, NAAH EDA DA KUCH NAHI AA... JADO GURU GRANTH SABIH VICH SABDI IKO THAAN WA FER MAIN 21 SAAL DA JWAAK KON HUNDA JATT YA SCHEDULE CASTE NU BURA KEHAN WALA RIGHT ? BUT TUSI JO KIHA KE SAARE HI "JATT" RACIST HUNDE AA, EHTA JAMMA GALT GAL AA, EH GAL TA CHUBDI HI AA, KYUNKI JEHRE EDA DE NAHI WA OHNA NE TE GUSSA KARNA HI WA SO MAIN TE KITA GUSSA TUHADI ISS GALDA" !!

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dasam patshah sahib shri guru gobind singh ji neh jadh khalsa panth di saajna kithi si unha ne 5 heads di mang kiti si, ae nai kaha si keh ik cheema aao ik dhillon aao ik sandhu aao jaah koi hor, unha neh sabh ik muth kitha haiga si, ae hunh sadi insaana di soch aah keh apne gurua de ditey us naam di pehchaan bulhaani aah yaa yaad rakhni aah,

kisi hor kaum deh vich a nai hoya k sari samuchi kaum nuh ik hi surname naal unha deh guru,s neh nivja hove, a karma valhe aah asi,

a sab ape aaph nu sacha sabit kerhn wali galh hai k gov singh or kaur as a middle name use kerdhe aah,
gal aah sade guru sahib di diti  pehchaan nuh bachoun di, recism di teh kohi gal hi nai hai ish vich,

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dasam patshah sahib shri guru gobind singh ji neh jadh khalsa panth di saajna kithi si unha ne 5 heads di mang kiti si, ae nai kaha si keh ik cheema aao ik dhillon aao ik sandhu aao jaah koi hor, unha neh sabh ik muth kitha haiga si, ae hunh sadi insaana di soch aah keh apne gurua de ditey us naam di pehchaan bulhaani aah yaa yaad rakhni aah,

kisi hor kaum deh vich a nai hoya k sari samuchi kaum nuh ik hi surname naal unha deh guru,s neh nivja hove, a karma valhe aah asi,

a sab ape aaph nu sacha sabit kerhn wali galh hai k gov singh or kaur as a middle name use kerdhe aah,
gal aah sade guru sahib di diti  pehchaan nuh bachoun di, recism di teh kohi gal hi nai hai ish vich,
lol fer ehi te main pesh kar riha ke "lado ji" kida kahi jande ke jatt racist hunde jado gal hi singh te kaur di wa

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Je jatt racist hon ta fer Wisconsin gurudwara sahib ch kise "GORE/WHITE" ne varke punjabi nahi c maarne :) saggo ik jatt ne marne c.... main eh ni kiha ke jatt hi sab kuch aa, but tuhada eh comment bilkul kuch v justify ni krda ke JATT RACIST hunde aa!!

tuhada eh comment iko chiz show krda and u knw that pretty well lado ji.


Ammu Veer, don't get me wrong on this bro, but what lado has said on this, has some weight.
I don't support the verdict that ALL Jatts are racist, but a majority of our community is very racist.
So far till now, what I've learned about our community is that we feel a very illegible sense of superiority over others, and with the sense of supeority we forget humanity, we feel that we are the best and rest of the people in the world just suck and they have their place beneath our feet.

Some Jatts won't even talk to a person of a lower caste, althought for me the word "caste" doesn't exist but I am talking about the people for whom it still exists.
Is this not a a sign of racism ? If you make fun of the other person and disrespect him or her based on the caste then what else is it than racism ??

Out here the word "racist" doesn't mean committing hate crimes or something, but a mere sense of racial superioty.But don't forget this kind of a superior feel of self has lead to some serious crimes in relation to the race.For example, miserable mistreatment of dalits(lower caste tribes and castes) in Punjab and now a days illegible mistreatment of Bihari workers in Punjab.Jatts call themselves as a hard working community but today it's the Bihari Bhaiyas who work in our agricltural farms, and still they don't get treated fairly.Imagine if these workers leave Punjab, then do you think our people can cope up without them ? I don't think so because today's Jatt is more busy with the gerhi culture in Chandigarh, yo  yo rap and not to forget the nasha.Infact the youth of our Jatt community doesn't even respect it's own elders, that fear of the elders is nowhere seen in them, as far as the pinds(villages) are concerend.

Our previous generation was far much greater than ours, they were the real deal, they didn't have this boastful attitude, they were attached to their soil  and religion and barely ever thought of leaving their nation for money.They were excellent kabaddi and kushti players, much more humble and much more fearing towards their own parents(our grandparents).It is their hard work and image that we're using and that to in a very negative way.

I was born and raised out of Punjab, so I've been away from the typical Jatt atmosphere, but I know about Punjab as much as any Jatt born there.I see my Jatt cousins in Punjab different from me.I'm being frank on this even if includes my own relatives.I feel bad on this.

Jatts need to learn to respect others and their cultures too.Jatts take pride in making fun of others, whether they're Biharis or Bhappas.Don't forget, our beloved Gur Gobind Singh Ji were also born in Bihar(Patna) and many of his scripts clearly reflects use of Braj Bhasha.Even Bhappas are better off than us as far as committment to Sikhi is concerned, because they atleast are loyal towards the "rehat" of the Sikhi.How many Jatts do you see in Punajb today who maintain the rehat ? Hardly any nowadys.They're all balds now, rather than having some shame of keeping atleast a little longer hair with a sober style, they prefer becoming completely balds or with strange reptile like hairstyles.Even besides this we call ourselves as "Putt Sardara De", Sardari ta rahi hi nahi hun, jado tak apna nau na dasso koi pishanda v nahi ke assi Sikh haa, par assi tan v mukhaul karde dooje Sikha da jo sadde to change aa.

Talk about women.Do Jatts respect them ? I don't think so.In today's date, mothers in many Jatt families don't want their daughters to be married to a Jatt, because they don't want their daughters to suffer they way they've suffered in a strigent atmosphere of Jatt families where they don't treat their women rightly and fairly.So they prefer a groom from a Non-Jatt Sikh family.
Although now things have changed in Jatt families but only a few and that to with the ones who are abroad because they grow out of the narrow mindedness and learn and see the world broadly which is much more happier and  prosperous without that narrow minded attitude.

I mean what is with all the pride ? Jatts make fun of Chamaars as toilet cleaners and all, but what do they themselves do aborad ? They do the same ! Many of them are working as daily labourers too.Where's the Jatt pride now ? Then they come back to India and buy big cars and do all the "tohar" and say "I've come from vilait".They show off in front of their own people of the state.

Why does a Jatt has to become manly only when he is drunk ? Why can't he be the same regardless ? Is he not confident about himself when he's sober ? Why does he have to ramble when he's drunk ?

Anyway, I don't want to get off topic on this, or go negative on Jatts.

So all in all, "racist" here doesn't mean the way racist actually means, but it does mean the sense of supeority that we Jatts possess in ourselves which we don't even keep to ourselves, we'd rather show it off to others just to make ourselves feel better about ourselves, and other people just say to themselves in their mind "let the joker bask how much he wants"....

On the other hand we have educated Jatts too, just like yourself.You understand the difference between right and wrong because of your intellectual capabilty which has come from education.You have humility in you and respect for others, but again how many of like you do we have in the Jatts...???

I really mean no offence to anyone, I am sorry if I've hurt anyone, I don't mean to hurt my people but I just felt like speaking frankly on this.
We need to get out of this pathetic mentality and start living like down to earth people and have respect and humility for everyone.

I think this is what lado meant.I think she didn't mean to target the entire community as a whole a but larger part of the community.

Thanks for reading, and kind apologies if anyone has felt offended because it has not been intentional.

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Ammu Veer, don't get me wrong on this bro, but what lado has said on this, has some weight.
I don't support the verdict that ALL Jatts are racist, but a majority of our community is very racist.
So far till now, what I've learned about our community is that we feel a very illegible sense of superiority over others, and with the sense of supeority we forget humanity, we feel that we are the best and rest of the people in the world just suck and they have their place beneath our feet.

Some Jatts won't even talk to a person of a lower caste, althought for me the word "caste" doesn't exist but I am talking about the people for whom it still exists.
Is this not a a sign of racism ? If you make fun of the other person and disrespect him or her based on the caste then what else is it than racism ??

Out here the word "racist" doesn't mean committing hate crimes or something, but a mere sense of racial superioty.But don't forget this kind of a superior feel of self has lead to some serious crimes in relation to the race.For example, miserable mistreatment of dalits(lower caste tribes and castes) in Punjab and now a days illegible mistreatment of Bihari workers in Punjab.Jatts call themselves as a hard working community but today it's the Bihari Bhaiyas who work in our agricltural farms, and still they don't get treated fairly.Imagine if these workers leave Punjab, then do you think our people can cope up without them ? I don't think so because today's Jatt is more busy with the gerhi culture in Chandigarh, yo  yo rap and not to forget the nasha.Infact the youth of our Jatt community doesn't even respect it's own elders, that fear of the elders is nowhere seen in them, as far as the pinds(villages) are concerend.

Our previous generation was far much greater than ours, they were the real deal, they didn't have this boastful attitude, they were attached to their soil  and religion and barely ever thought of leaving their nation for money.They were excellent kabaddi and kushti players, much more humble and much more fearing towards their own parents(our grandparents).It is their hard work and image that we're using and that to in a very negative way.

I was born and raised out of Punjab, so I've been away from the typical Jatt atmosphere, but I know about Punjab as much as any Jatt born there.I see my Jatt cousins in Punjab different from me.I'm being frank on this even if includes my own relatives.I feel bad on this.

Jatts need to learn to respect others and their cultures too.Jatts take pride in making fun of others, whether they're Biharis or Bhappas.Don't forget, our beloved Gur Gobind Singh Ji were also born in Bihar(Patna) and many of his scripts clearly reflects use of Braj Bhasha.Even Bhappas are better off than us as far as committment to Sikhi is concerned, because they atleast are loyal towards the "rehat" of the Sikhi.How many Jatts do you see in Punajb today who maintain the rehat ? Hardly any nowadys.They're all balds now, rather than having some shame of keeping atleast a little longer hair with a sober style, they prefer becoming completely balds or with strange reptile like hairstyles.Even besides this we call ourselves as "Putt Sardara De", Sardari ta rahi hi nahi hun, jado tak apna nau na dasso koi pishanda v nahi ke assi Sikh haa, par assi tan v mukhaul karde dooje Sikha da jo sadde to change aa.

Talk about women.Do Jatts respect them ? I don't think so.In today's date, mothers in many Jatt families don't want their daughters to be married to a Jatt, because they don't want their daughters to suffer they way they've suffered in a strigent atmosphere of Jatt families where they don't treat their women rightly and fairly.So they prefer a groom from a Non-Jatt Sikh family.
Although now things have changed in Jatt families but only a few and that to with the ones who are abroad because they grow out of the narrow mindedness and learn and see the world broadly which is much more happier and  prosperous without that narrow minded attitude.

I mean what is with all the pride ? Jatts make fun of Chamaars as toilet cleaners and all, but what do they themselves do aborad ? They do the same ! Many of them are working as daily labourers too.Where's the Jatt pride now ? Then they come back to India and buy big cars and do all the "tohar" and say "I've come from vilait".They show off in front of their own people of the state.

Why does a Jatt has to become manly only when he is drunk ? Why can't he be the same regardless ? Is he not confident about himself when he's sober ? Why does he have to ramble when he's drunk ?

Anyway, I don't want to get off topic on this, or go negative on Jatts.

So all in all, "racist" here doesn't mean the way racist actually means, but it does mean the sense of supeority that we Jatts possess in ourselves which we don't even keep to ourselves, we'd rather show it off to others just to make ourselves feel better about ourselves, and other people just say to themselves in their mind "let the joker bask how much he wants"....

On the other hand we have educated Jatts too, just like yourself.You understand the difference between right and wrong because of your intellectual capabilty which has come from education.You have humility in you and respect for others, but again how many of like you do we have in the Jatts...???

I really mean no offence to anyone, I am sorry if I've hurt anyone, I don't mean to hurt my people but I just felt like speaking frankly on this.
We need to get out of this pathetic mentality and start living like down to earth people and have respect and humility for everyone.

I think this is what lado meant.I think she didn't mean to target the entire community as a whole a but larger part of the community.

Thanks for reading, and kind apologies if anyone has felt offended because it has not been intentional.
bai main v ehi kiha ke "saare jatt racist kado to ho gye?"
yaar poori dunia ch hor bathere loki ne jehre racist ne  :dnk:

main ta ni kadi kise nu kiha ke tu hindu ya muslim wa so main ni tere naal dosti karni  :dnk: wth man

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dasam patshah sahib shri guru gobind singh ji neh jadh khalsa panth di saajna kithi si unha ne 5 heads di mang kiti si, ae nai kaha si keh ik cheema aao ik dhillon aao ik sandhu aao jaah koi hor, unha neh sabh ik muth kitha haiga si, ae hunh sadi insaana di soch aah keh apne gurua de ditey us naam di pehchaan bulhaani aah yaa yaad rakhni aah,

kisi hor kaum deh vich a nai hoya k sari samuchi kaum nuh ik hi surname naal unha deh guru,s neh nivja hove, a karma valhe aah asi,

a sab ape aaph nu sacha sabit kerhn wali galh hai k gov singh or kaur as a middle name use kerdhe aah,
gal aah sade guru sahib di diti  pehchaan nuh bachoun di, recism di teh kohi gal hi nai hai ish vich,

utte jaaa k rabb ne eh nai puchhna k tuhadi kaum ki c? te tuhada dharam kehda?
ohne eh nai kehna...k sikho....tusi wakhri line wich aao
hindu wakhri line bnao
muslim te isaayi...apnia wakhria wakhria linea bnaa k aao...
othe sare ikk ho jande aa....

tusi sare jaat paat piche paye o....main te kehna dharama ton pehlan insaniyat aundi aa....
guru gobind singh ji ne sikh dharam kyun bnaya? koi de sakda jwaab es swaal da? ki lorh pai gayi c?
please koi eh na keheo k sadi wakhri pehchaan lai ya koi hor suni sunayi gal....
jwaab sochan wala howe...hai koi jo sirf es gal da jwaab de dawe mainu?

te rahi gal NAAM di ...utte jaa k rabb ne es naam nal nai pehchaanana k tuhada naam "kanwar kang" c ya "koi hor kaur ya singh " c!
othe pehchaan sade karma nal honi aa....j zindagi ch change karam kite honge....osne fer hi pehchana...kise poore guru de ladd lagge howange ...gurmukhan di sangat kiti hougi...te ohnu apni zindagi wich apnaayea houga...fer hi pehchaana....nahi tan rabb ne v keh dena main tenu nai jaanda!!

sirf waheguru waheguru karn nal allah allah...ya ram ram krn de nal rabb nai milda....
rabb osde naam jappan naal milda....oh naam kise bhaasha wich nai aunda oh bolan wala naam nai hunda....oh ruhani bhed aa...jis nu koi eni cheti nai smjh skda...ohde lai poore guru da hona laajmi a...jo sanu raah dikha ske...


kehrian gallan wich fasse o?? eh massle bahut chhote aa...ehna ton uppar utho...rabb de lekhe laggo...na k jaat-paat dharma dian dooongiyayian wich zindagi barbbaad kri jao...
bande di joon 84 lakh jooona ton baad mildi aa....esnu paun lai sanu pta nai kine yug, sadiyan saal intezaar krna nai peya....eh hun ja k mili aa...gwaao naah!!

main hor kuch nai kehna!!

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bai main v ehi kiha ke "saare jatt racist kado to ho gye?"
yaar poori dunia ch hor bathere loki ne jehre racist ne  :dnk:

main ta ni kadi kise nu kiha ke tu hindu ya muslim wa so main ni tere naal dosti karni  :dnk: wth man

Mere Veer, main ta teri gal kitti hi nahi.
Infact I'm glad that we have people like you with us, but I would have been extremley happy and proud if all other Jatt brothers were like you.

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Mere Veer, main ta teri gal kitti hi nahi.
Infact I'm glad that we have people like you with us, but I would have been extremley happy and proud if all other Jatt brothers were like you.
bai main te aaap rabb to mang mang ke khanda wa te rabne sabnu iko jeha bnaya fer aah jatt jutt this and that ta insaan di hi khoj wa :D: so appa rabdi mande aa insaan di nahi  :blink: baki jehra jo hega ohnu apne aap te proud hunda so sab Punjabiya nu wa :D

 

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