One thing I dont like is - Adras in the sangat should be general - Like if there are 100 people standing in the Ardas why the granthi would care to mention just one name in the whole ardas (the name who paid 100 bucks).

I mean if someone paid money, just do a seperate ardas for them. Not everyone has to listen to someone pain and suffering or life. Sometime there is like a long list, with 10 people or something,(this guy got a kid, this guy came from india, this guy got a job, this guys birthday.. etc etc)  when standing in Guru adras and one wonder what's going on?

I would say a group ardas should just say - Sangat de Hajri and Sarbat da Bhalla.. That it. If someone pay money do an ardas for them later.

Anyone agree/Disagree?

jhanda ji tusi te badi wadiya gall kaih diti e i think we need a

separate topic 4 this debate ... i m agree with u bro...... jad sarbatt

de bhalei di gall ho gi fir kise da name mention karn di ki lodrh ai...
 
all guru saihbaan ji said just do good for world u will be get better coz

u also part f world..means srbatt de bhale di gall ch sab da bhala ho

jaweiga fir separate ardaas karwaon waala ki samzda k uhnu better chahida

sab tonh with $100 or $500 its same like de want to offer a money to

God...kush lok te guru gharr ja k edan langer di sewa karwaonde ai k oh

sewa ni show off kar rahe hunde ne main ik waar suniya c apne 1frnd di

wife kolon k munde de birthday te langer karwaa denei saare adelaide ch

balle balle ho ju $2000 naan ..sabh nu pta te lagu k asi birthday mnaya...

when some people want to their name in group ardaas they actually want to

tell all of group their name ..its part of show of.... kush pathiyan nu

te actual word v pronoun ni karne aonde ........ its def rent topic ....

for changes KUDRAT ji ne sahi likhiya te garned singh ji ne v ke kaon

responcible ai te kad changes hoyian c.....

bai ji mai te zyadatar ehi dekhya k jad kise ne apna khas kam pura hon te ardass krauni hundi ta pathi singh usde lai alag niji ardas karde ne. Path de bhog to bad hon vali ardas vich eh nam mention nai kite jande. Mai te punjab ch is tra e  dekhya e bt je is tra hunda v e ta v mere khyal e koi khas farak ni painda kyoke sangat vich khra oh 100 banda v apni niji ardas karda e par sarbat da bhla v mangda e so pathi singh kise valo shukrana bhent karada te koi galat ni. Vaise ta ardas shabda di mohtaj ni par fir v apna tredition e te bohte bandya nu ardas ni aundi hundi so oh pathi singh nu hi keh dinde ne k bhai ji mere vlo eh bhent sahib de shukrane vjo lai k ardas kar dyo.

Ardaas shabda di mohtaaj nai cuz Guru Sahb aap sab jaaani jaan ne... Guru Sahb taa pyaar vich kitti Ardaas jhatt bhaag laa dende ne... naale ohna nu pata je kisse ne 100 dollar ditti ne ja 1 cent.. nijji ardaas yaa paath de bhog toh baad is different story ... par aam tussi dekheya hona specially Gurupurab walay dinn theres a list of 100 people jede ardaas vich mention kitti jande ne and mere warge bande nu deeewar naal dho launa painda which i understand is disrespect but it just gets too much...  Ardaas naal tussi boht kuch hasil kar sakde aa par ohde layi Ardaas vich pyaar te Guru te vishwaas hona jaroori a