Author Topic: Ardas - Who composed it? (Read 4995 times)

Jhanda_Amli · « **on:** December 13, 2010, 02:58:57 PM »

Ardas wich sariye he Guru's da naam leya janda aa. From the first guru to the present guru. So definately it is not composed by Guru Gobind singh ji.

And in the last part of the ardas it goes - "Nankanna sahib teh hor gurthava, jenna ton panth nu vichroia geya hai." So i guess part of the ardas is also composed after Indian Independence.

So who really composed it and who is responsible for making the changes to ardas?

Punjabi:
Ardas wich sariye he guruiya de naam shamil ne. Phele Guru ton leh ke jeounde jagde jot - Guru Granth Sabh tak. es karke eh gal teh paki hai ke ardas Guru Gobind singh ji ne nai ucharan kete

Ardas teh akhre baag wich jethe ke ardas hunde hai - "Nankanna sahib teh hor gurthava, jenna ton panth nu vichroia geya hai." So eve lagda hai ke ardas de kuch ang bharat ajaad hon ton badh bane geye ne.

Kirpa karke eh gal wadna de kirpalta karoo ke - Ardas kado teh kesse ne ucharan kette hai?

dhanwad

Punjabi Janta Forums - Janta Di Pasand · « **on:** December 13, 2010, 02:58:57 PM »

Gharry · « **Reply #1 on:** December 13, 2010, 03:08:29 PM »

jhande 22 tere kolo e ass nhi c yr tu ta punjabi buhet vaddia likhda fer farengia di boli kyon :angry: :angry:

mamu · « **Reply #2 on:** December 13, 2010, 03:25:35 PM »

I think the Guruan de naam te Vaar Shri Bhagautee... is taken from the Dasam Granth.... and later on Guru Gobind Singh ji and Guru Granth Sahib ji was added and also it has been edited in accordance to the time .. like "jahaa jahaa khalsa ji sahib,
ttahaa ttahaa rachhiaa riaa-aytt" was added to the Ardaas jado Singh vandhe gaye si.. te ohna nu khatam kar den da order ditta gya si (most likely after Banda Bahadur ji and other 700 singhs along with him were caught)
I think the recent version of the Ardaas has been since the 70s jado Rehat Maryaada tyaar hoyi si .. and I'm sure its the Panj Takkahts that are responsible for any changes that happen now

█ ▌ﻝαᔕ ▌█ · « **Reply #3 on:** December 13, 2010, 03:38:51 PM »

veer ji
"Nankanna sahib teh hor gurthava, jenna ton panth nu vichroia geya hai." wala part after 1947 di partition toh baad add kita giya c by SGPC and akal takkat jatedars

Gharry · « **Reply #4 on:** December 13, 2010, 03:39:07 PM »

buhet khusi hundi a jado pj te koi apne dharm varre gall hundi a k appne veer ajje v sab kus jande a pehlla mai buhet varri topic wich prabhleen(ratanjot )ji da likhea paddea o v buhet sohna likhde a gurua varre ja dharm varre thkx bro tusi jo v likhia buhet nice a

█ ▌ﻝαᔕ ▌█ · « **Reply #5 on:** December 13, 2010, 03:52:20 PM »

Quote from: ਗਰੇਵਾਲ on December 13, 2010, 03:39:07 PM

buhet khusi hundi a jado pj te koi apne dharm varre gall hundi a k appne veer ajje v sab kus jande a pehlla mai buhet varri topic wich prabhleen(ratanjot )ji da likhea paddea o v buhet sohna likhde a gurua varre ja dharm varre thkx bro tusi jo v likhia buhet nice a

bai ji appa nu v is tera de topic bannoune chaide a
is naal 23813 users vicho kafi users nu kujh sikh religion ware kujh nawa learn karn da chance milda.
hun kafi jannyia nu nahi pata honna k eh part adras vich kyun payia giya c

Jhanda_Amli · « **Reply #6 on:** December 13, 2010, 03:58:00 PM »

Quote from: ਗਰੇਵਾਲ on December 13, 2010, 03:08:29 PM

jhande 22 tere kolo e ass nhi c yr tu ta punjabi buhet vaddia likhda fer farengia di boli kyon :angry: :angry:

Gusse katho hunda aa mitra.. Kar dete aa punjabi we

M. · « **Reply #7 on:** December 13, 2010, 08:21:41 PM »

Interesting topic!

Jhanda_Amli · « **Reply #8 on:** December 13, 2010, 10:16:53 PM »

I like :D

Quote from: ChAmAtKaRi ChAcHu on December 13, 2010, 03:25:35 PM

I think the Guruan de naam te Vaar Shri Bhagautee... is taken from the Dasam Granth.... and later on Guru Gobind Singh ji and Guru Granth Sahib ji was added and also it has been edited in accordance to the time .. like "jahaa jahaa khalsa ji sahib,
ttahaa ttahaa rachhiaa riaa-aytt" was added to the Ardaas jado Singh vandhe gaye si.. te ohna nu khatam kar den da order ditta gya si (most likely after Banda Bahadur ji and other 700 singhs along with him were caught)
I think the recent version of the Ardaas has been since the 70s jado Rehat Maryaada tyaar hoyi si .. and I'm sure its the Panj Takkahts that are responsible for any changes that happen now

Grenade Singh · « **Reply #9 on:** December 13, 2010, 10:21:03 PM »

Yes, the SGPC edits the Ardas to make it relevant to the current times. Understand that the ardas is in essence a prayer... it's asking from God that huge list of things. So, I've seen a lot of variations of the ardas, and you can't really say one is right and one is wrong.

Kudrat Kaur · « **Reply #10 on:** December 13, 2010, 10:39:18 PM »

I read some history too.. short form of Current version of Ardaas was composed by Bhai Mani Singh and later on additions were done from CHANDI DI VAAR ( Vaar Shri Bhagauti). And even we can notice in each GuruDwara Sahib, Every Pathi has their own way of doing ardaas.. they add Shabad from Guru Grnath Sahibji..in their own way.

Gharry · « **Reply #11 on:** December 14, 2010, 12:40:04 AM »

buhet vaddia ji sarea ne buhet he sohna likhea ,jhnada 22 dhanvad punjabi karen lai,dosto tusi ardas jithe v suno ge sab apne tarike nal karde a hun ta jo banda ardas karda hunda o pata nhi kithu app he wich add ker dinda kus na kus ,yr e buhet galt a jo ardas asli hy o he honi chahidi hy

chiber · « **Reply #12 on:** December 14, 2010, 03:19:01 AM »

ssa ji sareyaan nu. eh bahot jankaari bharpoor charcha da visha va ji. Very interesting to read. Ik gall menu confuse kardi aa....vi kei gurdwaareyaan ch different ardaas hundi aa. Jidaan, overall meaning kaafi had tak same hunda but pher vi knnaan nu odd jeha lagdi aa. Edaan katon? jidaan hun nanaksar te doojey gurudwarey hoi lelo. Hun menu es baarey eni jaankari vi nei, mebbe tusi sarey kuj jaandey hovo? Thanks.

Jhanda_Amli · « **Reply #13 on:** December 14, 2010, 09:23:03 PM »

Quote from: chiber on December 14, 2010, 03:19:01 AM

ssa ji sareyaan nu. eh bahot jankaari bharpoor charcha da visha va ji. Very interesting to read. Ik gall menu confuse kardi aa....vi kei gurdwaareyaan ch different ardaas hundi aa. Jidaan, overall meaning kaafi had tak same hunda but pher vi knnaan nu odd jeha lagdi aa. Edaan katon? jidaan hun nanaksar te doojey gurudwarey hoi lelo. Hun menu es baarey eni jaankari vi nei, mebbe tusi sarey kuj jaandey hovo? Thanks.

Anyone?

mamu · « **Reply #14 on:** December 15, 2010, 12:51:13 PM »

been a while Nanaksar wali ardaas sunne nu... but I guess all the gurdwaras under SGPC and DSGPC are pretty much the same and follow the same style of ardaas.. Nanaksar is a lil different othe keertan vi thoda alag tarah da hunda... dont get me wrong Nanaksar di ardaas te keertan dove hi baday pyaar walay hunde ne but its different than other gurdwaras we go it maybe ta kar ke odd feel hunda hona

mamu · « **Reply #15 on:** December 15, 2010, 12:53:23 PM »

I'm sure u guys know abt Sampat Paath ( I hope i spelled it right) jeda 7 days vich bhog painda .... Nanaksar has its own style which it follows Dhan Dhan Baba Nand Singh ji..

Gharry · « **Reply #16 on:** December 15, 2010, 03:19:45 PM »

dosto e topic buhet nice a per lagda nhi k esda koi end ho sakda yr tusi jado v kise jaga ardas sunde o ta o aleg he karde a appa kis kis di gall ker sakde a bas rabb da nam lao te gher a jaoo

_FaTeH_ · « **Reply #17 on:** December 28, 2010, 10:48:21 PM »

:rabb: :rabb: :rabb:

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