Annoucement:: New Pj Spam Rule & About Topics Locked

[Jhanda_Amli]

Sat Sri Akal ji

First things First!!

Two New Rules To reduce the Spam on Punjabi Janta

Rule 1: "New PJ Spamming Rule"

The following One Word Replies will be considered spams. This will include but not limit to:
- Any acronym such as "lol".
- The use of an emote/Simley as the only reply (such as  :happy: )

The Spam Message will be Deleted without warning by Global Mod/Admin. The Mods/Admin Will Notify the Users when the spam is identified as follows:

   >First Spam identified - Spam Deleted and Users Name Notified in Topic.
   >Second Time Spam Identified - Spam Deleted, Notification in Topic and Notification at User Profile
   >Third Time Spam Identified - Spam Deleted, User Temp Banned for 1 Day
   >More than Five Bans - User permanently Banned.


Rule 2: "Limiting the Number of words required to post a reply"

We will be Limiting the Mimimum number of Characters that are required to be in the post in order to post a successful reply.
This rule is still in progress, but we will keep everyone posted as the rule is devoloped.



Now About Locked Topics:

A Rather "long" discussion has happened within the PJ Staff (Global Mods/Admins) regarding the Locked Topic for the past week or so. Reason being that we were trying to evaluate what went wrong.
So far we have a topic of more than 80 'Long' replies where

- Number of great suggestions (Pendu, Mishro, Dev and Grenade Singh)
- Some very harsh talking (Mostly by Me - Applozizes)
- PJ Staff members Yelling at Grenade Singh
- Dev And Myself getting Impatient, as actions were delayed
- Mishro Getting pissed and Moving Out on PJ
- Some good "LONG" emotional talks (by Mishro) .. Speaking the rights of a User
- Unwanted Hot arguements between Sub-Admins about what is right and what is wrong
- Lot of Talks that Administration is Pushing on User, with disliking the decision of Locking Topics
- And Best of all, Even Mishro getting pissed at Grenade Singh and Billu Bakra

All was done to find out that "What really went wrong, that we end up lossing the love from some of our worthy members!"
- And I mentioned all this, because just in case you consider that PJ Staff Dont worry what User feels about their Topics and Take things for graunted.

Now Why we came up with the rules:
First Reason - The Pj Community is Growing, it is very important for us (PJ Team) that we could reduce the Spam (one Word Replies/Simleys). As if we dont stop them now, it will start to multiply each day

Second Reason - PJ Team don't want that Punjabi Janta is consider a spam site by different search engines

Third reaons: - The Increase in Spam was sending the same updates to the search engines which resulted in the search engines checking the PJ Site more often and reflecting on its Speed.

More Explanation on the Second and Third in the next Reply


What will happen to the Locked topics:

Currently we Will be discussing on each topic that is locked. If a substainial reasoning of why the topic is locked is not provided. The topic will be Unlocked.
Four Topics has already being approved to be unlocked. - Dil Ki Feel Kar Reha ; If you Locked with the person Above you ; New Game - 3 Words and True False

Some alternatives Ideas also given by Mishro Today Morning. Discussion will be done on that and we will keep you posted.

Now Any Questions or Concerns

[Jhanda_Amli]

Explanation of the Problem - Why Cleaning was Required:

Lot is Unclear.

The issue is not a slow server, as far as I understand the issue is that Grenade Singh Believes that search engines are going to consider PJ as a Spammer site if we have too many useless replies. This will drop the Page rating for Punjabi Janta.

When a Site is considered a Spam?
Google/Yahoo Monitor the updates coming from the site for the purpose of Page Rank ... Usually if most of the updates are the same word like - "satnam Waheguru" ... This is a Spam. And if you have high amount of spam the search engine will drop your page ranking. (The checking by Google/Yahoo also reflect on the Speed of PJ. )

- So the topics that are required to be locked has to be the 'Active topics' in order to reduce the same updates sent back and forth all the time.

I hope everyone on the same page... so now talk

More Explanation about the Problems by GS:

Forums da maksad
Forums sada ik than hai jithey asi bahut vakhri tara da maal share karde aa. Kai lok apne dil diya dasde ne, kayi lok shayari likhde ne, kai aukhe aukhe muddeyan te vichar-vatandra (discussions) karde ne.


Forums
Asi pehla ton ehi mangde aaye aa ke kise da topic delete na kariye, sareya nu jo post karde a karan deyiye. Menu bahut vari loka/mods/admins ne keha ke sanu "smileys post" delete karne chahide, par mein keha oh kade kade hunde, delete karke kuch farak ni pehna. par aj sara kuch badal reha...

Jado koi banda aunda apniya posts max karnli, oh sidha harek "person above you" topic vich post kar dinda, te left side te hor kuch ni disda, bina ehna games de. Koi Shayari (jehdi kisey ne saamb saamb likhi) ni disdi, koi madad di mang (help request), koi complaint, kuch vi hor nahi disda.


Slowness of PJ
There's some things about this subject which I cannot explain in simple Punjabi easily. The thing is PJ is indexed by a lot of search engines, such as Google, Yahoo, Microsoft etc and they all want to know what PJ is posting. But when they encounter a huge topic like Sis Bro Gf Bf Friend Stranger, they go through each of the 187 pages to see what is there, and they alert that this is just spam. All the pages with each post having the same 4-5 words. Nothing interesting or new. The slowness comes from them trying to check all the 187 pages all the time if there is anything new, anything updated that they can check. Now if we continue to post in these same topics, we'll have 300 pages. The slowness increases. I hope I'm making sense to you all, what I'm trying to say here.


Examples of locked topics
- Ik topic hai, Give an emotion to person above (by Punjaban Kaur), jehde vich loki ik smiley naal hi post mari jande. Tusi apey dekho, eh kina bekaar lagda. Eh kam lai asi profile comments kar sakde. Par gal ethey nahi mukdi...

- Ik topic hai "whats the time" by BhootNi. (our sub admin), jehde vich loki apna current time likhde ne. Jado eh post bani si, sanu vi fun laggi si, te asi vi shayad vich post keeta hona. Par aj eh post spam is layi ae, kionki ehde vich kai janey duje din post karde ne os vele da sama. No disrespect to any user I mentioned. Ehde naal ki maksad hoya. Koi google ton search marke PJ te ave, te pehla topic oh "whats the time" parhey tan oh ki sochuga.

- Ik topic hai "fer milange ke nahi" by ji (sada chat mod). Topic sohna si, jado shuru hoya si, loki pyar naal samjaunde si milange ke nahi. Par hun ess topic dia last posts dekhunga, ohna vich iko lafaz labda "milange". Loki ohdeyi othe "milange" post karde, bas hor kuch ni. Koi gal ni baat ni.


Notice 2 gallan:
- mein haje tak 3 locked topic list keete, Gill Saab de nahi ne, balke ik sub-admin da, ik pj pari da, te ik mod da. Eh sabit karn lai ke sirf tuhade topics nahi lock keete gaye. par Gill Saab jo topic tuhade lock hoye, oh vi ehna kaarna (causes) karke hi hoye ne.
- eh sare locked topic jado shuru hoye si, kuch maza aya si, par fer hauli hauli "spam" hon lag paye. Kionki oh jo maza (fun) si oh nikal geya, te dohrayi (repetitiveness) aun lagpayi.


Conclusion
Akher'ch mein kahunga... fun da vi koi limit hunda. Tuhanu kise nu topic banona band ni karna chahida. Balke topic banayo nave nave tankey PJ te taazgi ave.

Some of my favorite topics are very long: Question of the day and Gane da jwab ganey vich. I would love to lock them and make new topics like Question of the Day Part 2, and Ganey da Jawab Ganey vich Part 2.


New Ideas
Je tuhanu navey topics de idea chahide, jehde spam nu ghata sakde... try these
- Write a letter to the person above you...
- Write 2 sentences to the person above you...
Tusi dekhogey ke ehna topics vich 2-3 words replies ni chalne. Balke bande nu kuch sochke likhna pehna.

Mein kaafi sama lagake eh post likhi hai, par fer vi mein bahut kuch miss kargeya hovanga. Menu dasdeyo, te mein kisi tara sama kadke, tuhada jawab likhunga.

[Deleted User]

omggggg pj da barbadi shur karti : : : :

[Jhanda_Amli]

omggggg pj da barbadi shur karti : : : :

Pariya Hegge nai Topic .. aa ke Ubasiya maran lagg peyye /:)

- It too me almost an hour and half to do all this.. Katho Kath Parr teh lavvo saree janne!!

[Deleted User]

ithe ki likhya jene spam kita 5 tym toh jayda ban ho jaana 5 ban toh bayd paka ban :lost: :lost: :lost:

[TheStig]

thats very good topic bro,lots of things i didnt know abt spamming and what is considered as spam. So are we ready to fix?

[Deleted User]

bt apa ta  :angry: :spam: :spam: :spam: :spam: :spam: :spam: :spam: :spam: karna  :tongue: :tongue: :tongue: :tongue: :tongue:

[*rAbh RaKHA*]

awesum kamlo....
neek kam karn laye tuahnu burfi mologi....

n thank u

ps.. mein kado pissed off hoyi c /:) /:)

[Deleted User]

jahnda amli g punjabi ch likho greji samj nai aundi  :sad: :sad:

[_Beast_]

jahnda amli g punjabi ch likho greji samj nai aundi  :sad: :sad:

lado why are fooling around? :happy:
yaar eddan na kar, Apna opinion dass jo new rule hai ohnu kiddan vadiya banay ja sakda

[Deleted User]

edan kida na kara
main ta phyla v kaha c
sarea user nu post del karn di power do te pj te likhdo sare apni onli smiles posts del kar dena
hor itha ene faltu de topic aa oh del kardo pj halki ho jani

[Deleted User]

The Spam Message will be Deleted without warning by Global Mod/Admin. The Mods/Admin Will Notify the Users when the spam is identified as follows:

   >First Spam identified - Spam Deleted and Users Name Notified in Topic.
   >Second Time Spam Identified - Spam Deleted, Notification in Topic and Notification at User Profile
   >Third Time Spam Identified - Spam Deleted, User Temp Banned for 1 Day
   >More than Five Bans - User permanently Banned
 

hun ah ki gal hoyi koi user nawa aa ja fer purne ne ah na parya howe ta bacha free ch ban hoyi jao ... site fun karn lai aa tuci ta rulez bana bana fun kahrb kari j anda sare : :

kuj rulez r gud bt ban fo spam aukha :tongue: :tongue:

[Grenade Singh]

hun ah ki gal hoyi koi user nawa aa ja fer purne ne ah na parya howe ta bacha free ch ban hoyi jao ... site fun karn lai aa tuci ta rulez bana bana fun kahrb kari j anda sare : :

kuj rulez r gud bt ban fo spam aukha :tongue: :tongue:

asi kisey nu ban karn layi nahi utavle. tuhanu pata hi hai mein kado user ban karda hunda (jado sarey hor tareeke azmaye ja chuke hon). Fikar na karo kisey nu bina wajah ton ban nahi karde. Je karunge, complaints forum tuhade samne aa, insaaf lehna harek PJ member nu aunda.

[Deleted User]

fer dhamakia kyo dinde aa : : :

[*rAbh RaKHA*]

fer dhamakia kyo dinde aa : : :

dhamika kaun de reha eh rajhe.. eh tan sare ehi koshish kar rahe ne ethe koye buchal na aveh hun..tey asssin sare ral mil ke rahiye... n ehde ch tuahdi sabh di pehla help chahidi hai sanu....

pj nu tusi hi sare upper leja sakde o.. assin sabh ne ki kar lena.. sanu tan jobs mil gayeyan tanke..ethe koye glat na bole...  tusi dasso tuahnu eh ni pasand ke ethe sare jane tuahde sath den di koshish kar rahe ne :lost: :lost:

[Deleted User]

yhh theek aa par dhmakaia dinda ban dia  :huhh: :huhh: :huhh:

[_Beast_]

yhh theek aa par dhmakaia dinda ban dia  :huhh: :huhh: :huhh:

styish darling nu kon dhamkiya dinda???  :happy:

kehra aa oye?? Kon dhamkiya dinda Stlyish ne  :angry:
bahr nikal oye kehra haiga mai da lal :comeon:

[*rAbh RaKHA*]

yhh theek aa par dhmakaia dinda ban dia  :huhh: :huhh: :huhh:

oh nah nah,.... tusi fikar na karo...bann assin kise nu hon hi ni dena.... tusi bas hassde vasde reha karo... :happy: :happy:

[Deleted User]

styish darling nu kon dhamkiya dinda???  :happy:

kehra aa oye?? Kon dhamkiya dinda Stlyish ne  :angry:
bahr nikal oye kehra haiga mai da lal :comeon:

jhanda amli  :sad: :sad: apa ta aunde spam karn aa ta oh ban da dhamakia dine  :cry: :cry: :cry:

oh nah nah,.... tusi fikar na karo...bann assin kise nu hon hi ni dena.... tusi bas hassde vasde reha karo... :happy: :happy:

ban na kareo kisa nu baki sabh ok aa :tongue: :tongue:

[*rAbh RaKHA*]

jhanda amli  :sad: :sad: apa ta aunde spam karn aa ta oh ban da dhamakia dine  :cry: :cry: :cry: ban na kareo kisa nu baki sabh ok aa :tongue: :tongue:

oh rulezzz ne... n trust me sohne.. sanu vi changa ni laghda kisse nu ban karke... n yaknow that too....

awww menu toungue vikayonde..tuahnu mein huggy kar leni :hug: :hug: :hug: baki .. ban will be the last option n sadi sarian di koshish ehi hai ke es last option tey nehre ajj otn abdh assin jana hi ni hega.... so smileeeee :happy: :happy: