July 25, 2017, 04:33:01 AM
collapse

Poll

Humanity or Religion ? What do you chose ?

Humanity
19 (90.5%)
Religion
2 (9.5%)
Other - Please elaborate
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 21

Voting closed: January 25, 2013, 04:48:20 AM

Author Topic: What is more important to you Humanity or Religion?  (Read 8775 times)

Offline !

  • PJ Gabru
  • Lumberdar/Lumberdarni
  • *
  • Like
  • -Given: 39
  • -Receive: 85
  • Posts: 2084
  • Tohar: 50
  • Gender: Male
  • ੴ ਮੈ਼ ਕੁੱਝ ਵੀ ਨਹੀ਼ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਤੇਰੇ ਬਿਨਾਂ ੴ
    • View Profile
Re: What is more important to you Humanity or Religion?
« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2012, 06:22:35 PM »
So you mean to say ki Religion tells you to be a Human and teaches you humanity ?
i didn't say that either, i'm just sayin religion should be humanitarian based so that both can't be separated..Nd i'm not sayin humanity is less important than religion...i'm just saying both are equally important.

Punjabi Janta Forums - Janta Di Pasand

Re: What is more important to you Humanity or Religion?
« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2012, 06:22:35 PM »

Offline Deleted User

  • Choocha/Choochi
  • Like
  • -Given: 256
  • -Receive: 307
  • Posts: 0
  • Tohar: 108
    • View Profile
Re: What is more important to you Humanity or Religion?
« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2012, 06:23:41 PM »
so you mean to say Nature Made Humans and humans made religion ?
yeh nature made evrything but religion is made from human

Offline SonnenKinder

  • PJ Gabru
  • Maharaja/Maharani
  • *
  • Like
  • -Given: 1
  • -Receive: 101
  • Posts: 10105
  • Tohar: 11
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: What is more important to you Humanity or Religion?
« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2012, 06:26:06 PM »
Well one final word, you may not  agree. Who is greater? Creator or Creation? Human created Religions not vice versa.
« Last Edit: January 31, 2012, 07:32:52 PM by ©odєnamє 47 »

Offline TheStig

  • Retired Staff
  • Maharaja/Maharani
  • *
  • Like
  • -Given: 328
  • -Receive: 473
  • Posts: 11821
  • Tohar: 55
  • Gender: Male
  • Stig
    • View Profile
Re: What is more important to you Humanity or Religion?
« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2012, 06:34:19 PM »
Well one final word, you may not  agree. Who is greater? Creator or Creation? Human created Religions not vice versa.
[/b]

Good point

Humans created Religion and I still believe Religion Divides people (don't take it in the other way)


Offline !

  • PJ Gabru
  • Lumberdar/Lumberdarni
  • *
  • Like
  • -Given: 39
  • -Receive: 85
  • Posts: 2084
  • Tohar: 50
  • Gender: Male
  • ੴ ਮੈ਼ ਕੁੱਝ ਵੀ ਨਹੀ਼ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਤੇਰੇ ਬਿਨਾਂ ੴ
    • View Profile
Re: What is more important to you Humanity or Religion?
« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2012, 06:42:08 PM »
Well one final word, you may not  agree. Who is greater? Creator or Creation? Human created Religions not vice versa.
[/b]
tricky question
Well one final word, you may not  agree. Who is greater? Creator or Creation? Human created Religions not vice versa.
[/b]
Creator...Nd Creator believed that religion should b meant to serve humanity.

Offline TheStig

  • Retired Staff
  • Maharaja/Maharani
  • *
  • Like
  • -Given: 328
  • -Receive: 473
  • Posts: 11821
  • Tohar: 55
  • Gender: Male
  • Stig
    • View Profile
Re: What is more important to you Humanity or Religion?
« Reply #25 on: January 31, 2012, 06:45:20 PM »
Serve Humanity ?
Humanity doesn't need to be served

its humanity itself , self explanatory isn't it

Offline SonnenKinder

  • PJ Gabru
  • Maharaja/Maharani
  • *
  • Like
  • -Given: 1
  • -Receive: 101
  • Posts: 10105
  • Tohar: 11
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: What is more important to you Humanity or Religion?
« Reply #26 on: January 31, 2012, 06:45:52 PM »
tricky question  Creator...Nd Creator believed that religion should b meant to serve humanity.
So who is greater, servant or master? Coz religion serve Human.

Offline !

  • PJ Gabru
  • Lumberdar/Lumberdarni
  • *
  • Like
  • -Given: 39
  • -Receive: 85
  • Posts: 2084
  • Tohar: 50
  • Gender: Male
  • ੴ ਮੈ਼ ਕੁੱਝ ਵੀ ਨਹੀ਼ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਤੇਰੇ ਬਿਨਾਂ ੴ
    • View Profile
Re: What is more important to you Humanity or Religion?
« Reply #27 on: January 31, 2012, 06:50:44 PM »
Serve Humanity ?
Humanity doesn't need to be served

its humanity itself , self explanatory isn't it
so rahul are u atheist...just curious??

...
So who is greater, servant or master? Coz religion serve Human.
thr should b no servant no master, if religion nd humanity are equal.

Offline TheStig

  • Retired Staff
  • Maharaja/Maharani
  • *
  • Like
  • -Given: 328
  • -Receive: 473
  • Posts: 11821
  • Tohar: 55
  • Gender: Male
  • Stig
    • View Profile
Re: What is more important to you Humanity or Religion?
« Reply #28 on: January 31, 2012, 07:02:08 PM »
I believe in every single religion but still humanity is above all

Offline SonnenKinder

  • PJ Gabru
  • Maharaja/Maharani
  • *
  • Like
  • -Given: 1
  • -Receive: 101
  • Posts: 10105
  • Tohar: 11
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: What is more important to you Humanity or Religion?
« Reply #29 on: January 31, 2012, 07:15:53 PM »
Ghaint, you are ambivalent and unsure, you yourself said religion serve humanity. No further arguments please. Because constructive arguments in respect of religion are not acceptable to  staunch religious people and I dont wanna be branded as blasphemous. You are free to disagree what I think is right.

Offline !

  • PJ Gabru
  • Lumberdar/Lumberdarni
  • *
  • Like
  • -Given: 39
  • -Receive: 85
  • Posts: 2084
  • Tohar: 50
  • Gender: Male
  • ੴ ਮੈ਼ ਕੁੱਝ ਵੀ ਨਹੀ਼ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਤੇਰੇ ਬਿਨਾਂ ੴ
    • View Profile
Re: What is more important to you Humanity or Religion?
« Reply #30 on: January 31, 2012, 07:20:28 PM »
I believe in every single religion but still humanity is above all
bro most religions talk abt humanity don't they???..my opinion was that humanity Nd religion should be equal so thr should b no conflict. baki i'm not a philosopher to argue on this issue...i'm none to comment on this issue..baki i believe u could learn alot abt humanity if u believe in certain philosophies of every religion.

Offline TheStig

  • Retired Staff
  • Maharaja/Maharani
  • *
  • Like
  • -Given: 328
  • -Receive: 473
  • Posts: 11821
  • Tohar: 55
  • Gender: Male
  • Stig
    • View Profile
Re: What is more important to you Humanity or Religion?
« Reply #31 on: January 31, 2012, 07:24:03 PM »
Ghaint, you are ambivalent and unsure, you yourself said religion serve humanity. No further arguments please. Because constructive arguments in respect of religion are not acceptable to  staunch religious people and I dont wanna be branded as blasphemous. You are free to disagree what I think is right.

End of an argument

@ ghaint veer ji

Humanity ajj vi jinda hai. Religions tuhanu humanity shayad sikhande hone par humanity ajj vi sab to uchi hai. Jad bacha paida hunda hai asi ohnu ek human nahi rehan dinde sago apne wang ik religious bana dinde .

Ithe gal eh ho rahi si ki humanity agge hai ya religion

Offline !

  • PJ Gabru
  • Lumberdar/Lumberdarni
  • *
  • Like
  • -Given: 39
  • -Receive: 85
  • Posts: 2084
  • Tohar: 50
  • Gender: Male
  • ੴ ਮੈ਼ ਕੁੱਝ ਵੀ ਨਹੀ਼ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਤੇਰੇ ਬਿਨਾਂ ੴ
    • View Profile
Re: What is more important to you Humanity or Religion?
« Reply #32 on: January 31, 2012, 07:35:45 PM »
End of an argument

@ ghaint veer ji

Humanity ajj vi jinda hai. Religions tuhanu humanity shayad sikhande hone par humanity ajj vi sab to uchi hai. Jad bacha paida hunda hai asi ohnu ek human nahi rehan dinde sago apne wang ik religious bana dinde .

Ithe gal eh ho rahi si ki humanity agge hai ya religion
22 ji mein vi ekk gal karke end kar reha payi.......payi jeh tusi sahi sikhaya leh ke koi vi relgion nu mande ah ta tusi human hi rehnde ah, thode andar vair ja virod di bapvna ni ayundi.

Offline TheStig

  • Retired Staff
  • Maharaja/Maharani
  • *
  • Like
  • -Given: 328
  • -Receive: 473
  • Posts: 11821
  • Tohar: 55
  • Gender: Male
  • Stig
    • View Profile
Re: What is more important to you Humanity or Religion?
« Reply #33 on: January 31, 2012, 07:41:49 PM »
Religions Divide people
Yakeen nahi aunda ta jinu marzi puch lavo :smile:

Virod / Vair sab to jada dictatorship wali countries ch hai

Offline pReEt_lUv

  • PJ Gabru
  • Jimidar/Jimidarni
  • *
  • Like
  • -Given: 99
  • -Receive: 84
  • Posts: 1945
  • Tohar: 49
    • View Profile
Re: What is more important to you Humanity or Religion?
« Reply #34 on: January 31, 2012, 07:43:21 PM »
I haven't read the previous discussion on this topic but I felt like sharing my views on the topic. For me, humanity is the utmost priority, I like to call it the highest religion one can follow. I am not sure why different religion were created but then if we look around, even if its a good thing to have one's own religion and follow the path; its not serving the purpose. I believe that having a religion is like having a fear of God in mind,something that keeps u away from doing bad deeds. I am not sure if I am projecting myself in the way I want, so pardon me for that and bear with me. And if the guides in all religions, at least in Sikhism, when we look at the Granthis who do the Seva at Gurudwaras, they do bad deeds as well, I have witnessed them drinking or talking crap outside the Gurudwara, being human or spiritual is not a bad option, won't be so biased towards it, since personally I have long way to go and learn about my religion, but if I give my personal opinion, I respect my religion, but prefer being a human first, and I have my own materialistic desires, which won't let me follow the Guru's path as of now, so in the guidelines of our holy book I am doing a sin but if i look from other prospective, since I have firm belief that I will get there one day, I think I should be fine and off course, time teaches you everything, so why not rather be patient than being naive ... Hope I didnt offend anyone's thoughts.

Offline TheStig

  • Retired Staff
  • Maharaja/Maharani
  • *
  • Like
  • -Given: 328
  • -Receive: 473
  • Posts: 11821
  • Tohar: 55
  • Gender: Male
  • Stig
    • View Profile
Re: What is more important to you Humanity or Religion?
« Reply #35 on: January 31, 2012, 07:52:04 PM »
So your saying that Religion taught you to be a human , humanity is above all .

Religions tell you to do this and that and don't do this and that.

so if you following your religion and there is a clash in your religion that you don't have to do something which is a Sin in your religion but for humanity you have to do it what would you do ?

Offline pReEt_lUv

  • PJ Gabru
  • Jimidar/Jimidarni
  • *
  • Like
  • -Given: 99
  • -Receive: 84
  • Posts: 1945
  • Tohar: 49
    • View Profile
Re: What is more important to you Humanity or Religion?
« Reply #36 on: January 31, 2012, 08:03:34 PM »
So your saying that Religion taught you to be a human , humanity is above all .

Religions tell you to do this and that and don't do this and that.

so if you following your religion and there is a clash in your religion that you don't have to do something which is a Sin in your religion but for humanity you have to do it what would you do ?

No not exactly, na par sab toh pehla ta main apne Dharam baare hi sikheya c .. bhawei zyada nahi .. humanity di thoughts ta with time aayiyaan c mann ch ... but main eh keh reha a ki religion mere layee hale es wele follow karna hard a .. main sir muneya hoya a ... menu sab galaan da haje gyaan nai haiga bhawein menu ehna pata v a te ehna wekheya v a ki jehra banda Guru de larrr lag janda a o tar janda a .. par hun ehnu ek excuse wangu v wekh sakde o ya fir justified reason v but main situation toh langh k hi kuch sikhda a jad tak main verge tak na pahunch jaawaa te menu eh ehsaas na hove ki haan menu eh karna chahida c ya fir meri soch galat c ... menu akal ni aundi veerey ... apni thaa te dowein religion te humanity theek ne par just for the time being main humanity nu preference dinda a life ch .... par at the same time .. jina ku menu kise v religion baare pata v a ya nahi pata .. menu ehna pata a ki main kise bande naal bhed bhaav ni karda ... bahawein isaayee hove ya musalman ya koi v dharam .. when i look at a person i see his behaviour and way of thinking .. eh v ho sakda a ki sanu ehna dowaan galaan nu compare v ni karna chahida par discusiion layee ta eh sab good a ... mere warga kuch sikh lenda

Offline TheStig

  • Retired Staff
  • Maharaja/Maharani
  • *
  • Like
  • -Given: 328
  • -Receive: 473
  • Posts: 11821
  • Tohar: 55
  • Gender: Male
  • Stig
    • View Profile
Re: What is more important to you Humanity or Religion?
« Reply #37 on: January 31, 2012, 08:15:10 PM »
No not exactly, na par sab toh pehla ta main apne Dharam baare hi sikheya c .. bhawei zyada nahi .. humanity di thoughts ta with time aayiyaan c mann ch ... but main eh keh reha a ki religion mere layee hale es wele follow karna hard a .. main sir muneya hoya a ... menu sab galaan da haje gyaan nai haiga bhawein menu ehna pata v a te ehna wekheya v a ki jehra banda Guru de larrr lag janda a o tar janda a .. par hun ehnu ek excuse wangu v wekh sakde o ya fir justified reason v but main situation toh langh k hi kuch sikhda a jad tak main verge tak na pahunch jaawaa te menu eh ehsaas na hove ki haan menu eh karna chahida c ya fir meri soch galat c ... menu akal ni aundi veerey ... apni thaa te dowein religion te humanity theek ne par just for the time being main humanity nu preference dinda a life ch .... par at the same time .. jina ku menu kise v religion baare pata v a ya nahi pata .. menu ehna pata a ki main kise bande naal bhed bhaav ni karda ... bahawein isaayee hove ya musalman ya koi v dharam .. when i look at a person i see his behaviour and way of thinking .. eh v ho sakda a ki sanu ehna dowaan galaan nu compare v ni karna chahida par discusiion layee ta eh sab good a ... mere warga kuch sikh lenda

Jad insaan paida hunda nah oh hindu hunda , na muslman, na sikh na isayi.

Human hunda . humanity ta insaan wich hundi hai par oh apa khatam kar dinde ah.

Religion ho sakda hai ki tuhanu sahi raah te pa deve par fer vi kis cheez layi Humanity layi ?

oh ta already banda ho sakda,

Koi banda je nah vi hove Religious , humanity ta hundi hai ode ch.

You saying your not following your religion no one worries about that as long as your a good human being , love ,care, show affection and help the people in need its all good .


Offline pReEt_lUv

  • PJ Gabru
  • Jimidar/Jimidarni
  • *
  • Like
  • -Given: 99
  • -Receive: 84
  • Posts: 1945
  • Tohar: 49
    • View Profile
Re: What is more important to you Humanity or Religion?
« Reply #38 on: January 31, 2012, 08:19:03 PM »
hanji main apna religion properly hale ta follow ni kar reha par menu ehna vishwaas ta a ki main humanity puri follow karda jini metho hundi a .. i cant hurt anyone .. i cant see anyone in pain .. i tend to feel the pain of ppl i talk to ... par main pehli aali gal te eh kehna chahuna ki religion ta hi aye c ki bande nu human banaa sakan .. humanity sikhaa sakan ... yaar menu samjhauna nai aunda changi taraah

Offline TheStig

  • Retired Staff
  • Maharaja/Maharani
  • *
  • Like
  • -Given: 328
  • -Receive: 473
  • Posts: 11821
  • Tohar: 55
  • Gender: Male
  • Stig
    • View Profile
Re: What is more important to you Humanity or Religion?
« Reply #39 on: January 31, 2012, 08:25:47 PM »
hanji main apna religion properly hale ta follow ni kar reha par menu ehna vishwaas ta a ki main humanity puri follow karda jini metho hundi a .. i cant hurt anyone .. i cant see anyone in pain .. i tend to feel the pain of ppl i talk to ... par main pehli aali gal te eh kehna chahuna ki religion ta hi aye c ki bande nu human banaa sakan .. humanity sikhaa sakan ... yaar menu samjhauna nai aunda changi taraah

thats Humanity :smile:

so your up for humanity

good aa

Humanity is above all religions of the world bro

 

Related Topics

  Subject / Started by Replies Last post
12 Replies
1630 Views
Last post February 10, 2014, 01:25:05 PM
by rabbdabanda
5 Replies
1000 Views
Last post January 30, 2010, 07:06:15 AM
by SonnenKinder
6 Replies
1275 Views
Last post September 17, 2010, 05:22:23 AM
by pammi 22
1 Replies
498 Views
Last post January 05, 2011, 01:07:23 PM
by Sardar_Ji
31 Replies
3676 Views
Last post June 11, 2011, 05:26:18 PM
by bibamunda
8 Replies
762 Views
Last post June 24, 2011, 06:44:50 AM
by ҂ ȿḉặᵰɗἷἧäѷїѧҋ↔ᶀɍǐȶĩṧӊ ₰
4 Replies
362 Views
Last post April 12, 2012, 07:56:07 PM
by Deleted User
8 Replies
719 Views
Last post May 09, 2012, 05:21:36 AM
by ҂ ȿḉặᵰɗἷἧäѷїѧҋ↔ᶀɍǐȶĩṧӊ ₰
7 Replies
1160 Views
Last post November 06, 2012, 09:24:58 AM
by ♥(ਛੱਲਾ)♥
0 Replies
470 Views
Last post January 22, 2013, 11:51:15 AM
by Varun....

* Who's Online

  • Dot Guests: 86
  • Dot Hidden: 0
  • Dot Users: 0

There aren't any users online.

* Recent Posts

Hello again by ramanjeet
[Today at 02:41:25 AM]


If you could have dinner with one artist/singer/celebrity who would it be ? by MyselF GhainT
[July 24, 2017, 08:42:36 PM]


what do you wanna eat ryt nw..? by Š¶Ã®Kž
[July 24, 2017, 08:16:28 PM]


Request Video Of The Day by Jioavtar
[July 24, 2017, 07:31:34 PM]


tusi bohut _______ ho ?? by Jioavtar
[July 24, 2017, 07:28:47 PM]


Best DP of the Week by Jioavtar
[July 24, 2017, 07:28:07 PM]


Earn money Free At Your Home by papu
[July 24, 2017, 01:25:34 PM]


Classic Moments on PJ :D by Gujjar no1
[July 24, 2017, 01:12:03 PM]


ki tusi bhoot ch wishwas karde ho? by MyselF GhainT
[July 23, 2017, 05:55:03 PM]


your MOOD now by papu
[July 22, 2017, 02:39:27 PM]


What color are you wearing today... ???? by gabruu
[July 20, 2017, 10:36:48 AM]


name one thing you can't live without ? by gabruu
[July 20, 2017, 10:36:18 AM]


Je mera vass challe te mai..... by Š¶Ã®Kž
[July 20, 2017, 09:00:33 AM]


Just two line shayari ... by Parv...
[July 18, 2017, 12:09:16 PM]


hindi /Urdu Four Lines Poetry by Gujjar no1
[July 18, 2017, 10:05:37 AM]


tere naam by Gujjar no1
[July 18, 2017, 10:03:16 AM]


Kehri game tusi khed de hunde phone ? by Jatt Mullanpuria
[July 17, 2017, 11:24:18 PM]


laal chudian ( red bangles) by jeet_singh
[July 17, 2017, 12:29:28 PM]


je tusi heer hunde ta tusi ranjhe nu shdd dinde? by MyselF GhainT
[July 16, 2017, 12:43:26 PM]


>>>Dedicate a couplet of share/ghazal to the person above by Parv...
[July 16, 2017, 12:07:19 PM]


where u wanna live by pคภgє๒คz мยтyคคภ
[July 15, 2017, 06:34:03 PM]


Tanu kis cheez toh darr lagda? by Gujjar no1
[July 14, 2017, 07:43:40 PM]


Myself Ghaint Before The Personal Trainer by MyselF GhainT
[July 14, 2017, 02:41:15 PM]


Ammu Sandhu de pyjamas by KayP
[July 13, 2017, 09:49:43 PM]


Weather Report for ur city ? by Gujjar no1
[July 13, 2017, 01:39:47 PM]