Author Topic: Tusse ja thude priwarr walle Jyattiwad (casteism) wich vishwas rakhde ne? (Read 15936 times)

$$ TARN JI $$ · « **Reply #20 on:** August 17, 2011, 09:34:58 AM »

Quote from: ਦਿਲਰਾਜ ਕੌਰ on August 17, 2011, 09:28:26 AM

mere gharde te bohat ziaada vishvaas karde ne jyattiwad ch :blush: te mae ohna to ve ziaada karde vishwaas :hehe:

TUHADE WARGE LOKAAN KAR K HI SADA SAMAJH TARAKI NAHI KAR REHA ..... RESISUM SHIT .....

Punjabi Janta Forums - Janta Di Pasand · « **Reply #20 on:** August 17, 2011, 09:34:58 AM »

ਦਿਲਰਾਜ -ਕੌਰ · « **Reply #21 on:** August 17, 2011, 09:47:36 AM »

Quote from: $$TARN JI$$ on August 17, 2011, 09:34:58 AM

TUHADE WARGE LOKAAN KAR K HI SADA SAMAJH TARAKI NAHI KAR REHA ..... RESISUM SHIT .....

kado kado pj te bhadaas :hehe: samajh sevak :pagel:

$$ TARN JI $$ · « **Reply #22 on:** August 17, 2011, 09:52:31 AM »

Quote from: ਦਿਲਰਾਜ ਕੌਰ on August 17, 2011, 09:47:36 AM

kado kado pj te bhadaas :hehe: samajh sevak :pagel:

MAIN KOI BHADASS NAHI KAD REHA MAIN SUCH KEH REHA HAANN

Ķιℓℓα Ķαuя · « **Reply #23 on:** August 17, 2011, 10:06:54 AM »

Interesting Topic.

I personally think that one cannot call themselves a Sikh or they believe in Castes. As far as I understand Sikhism was formed to end such differences, and it is sad that our Sikhs are not over this. I don't care who get married to who mere niane ta jide nal marji karon i have no problem. Differences among people existed always if it wasn’t a caste difference it has to do with status if not that then race if not that then religion lol it never ends does it? But sad thing is we Indians create differences among ourselves and try to put each other down based on what we had no choice over haha! Not sure who gave anyone that right anyhow I wish people would learn to understand others as another human being rather than putting a price on them.

As far as it goes to what "gharde" think it's kind of hard to judge them because considering their backgrounds and where/how they were brought up the society (so called “samaaaaj”) has made their mind setting certain way so can't really blame them if they believe in castes. Trust me no matter how educated or uneducated you are, you will see these kind of differences among both. Because Even if one doesn’t really believe that the society made them to believe that certain way the problem is we (today’s generation what them to transform overnight lol things are changing but it is going to take time for them to accept this change. ..we have forgotten that people don’t like “change” you can say they are afraid or whatnot...i have heard several people say "jida siyanea ne keha or jida siyane karde c it was for a reason" this or that to justify why the way they want their jatt son to marry jatt girl.

: honestly it doesn't make sense to me because i feel that if you are not over caste differences then at least don’t call yourself a Sikh.

i was reading everyone’s responds...i wanted to make comment on Karam Singh ...it made me think when you said the following:

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Par mera eh manna k je apni caste ya brabar de nal viah hove ta changa. Kyo agar apa intercaste karde aa ta zahir e k do families de vich ohna de costoms , rehen sehen, soch da fark hoyega te eh fark age ja k prob v kar sakda.
Bt its just a theory of mine. . . Mai ehda pakka follower ni haiga

interesting point ...I’ve actually heard that but you know i disagree because i think being Indian i have understood the fact our rituals and customs change depending on what area we belong to in India...for example.. my sis in law was born and raised in delhi...yet their rituals/customs are from the area her ancestors came from which is amritsar area (i forgot what it’s called) anyhow and i grew up in states but my rituals/customs are what my parents taught us which belong to jalandhar area meaning duaba, although we belong to same caste but we still have differences in the way we do things and say some of the phrases in punjabi jus because our ancestors belong to different areas in Punjab. we just have to learn and determine what is acceptable and what not in order adapt or change ourselves to such things.

Okay that’s enough for today :hehe:
ena lamba hogyea kise ne parna b ni a hun :laugh: oh well!

Jhanda_Amli · « **Reply #24 on:** August 17, 2011, 10:36:48 AM »

Quote from: Kamla Motta Jatt on August 16, 2011, 04:45:03 PM

they are like hardcore believer in casteism....

but i'm totally on opposite side.... i don't care about casteism... and i think i'm successfull in changing their point of view too.. i told em this is 21st century they have to change their point of view..

you are right gore, kaale and mexican are same way.....in america we don't have cast system.... but we have class system...Depending on your income.

so you will marry gore kaale too... Hun teh mainu lagda... mere backward thinking aa :hehe:

Quote from: COLD BLOOD@Brar on August 16, 2011, 09:53:20 PM

oh Jhanda sianah je aapan change kar liya apne aap nu next generation ne aape change ho jaana paihlan anpardta c hun holi holi sab theek hoyi jaanda

pailan meri dadi kade gareeb de hath da paani v nahi peendi c , but hun sab waiter gareeb hi hunde ne sab khayi jaande ai . so edan hi theek hoyi jaana next generation tak viyah wala masla v hall ho jana , kush te hall ho hi gaya mere mammy kainde hunde c ke brahamn ya laali bhawein lai ayi kise kameen jaaat nu ni ghare wadn dena main ghar, so uh kaafi set ho gaye si dharam chon bahar aa gaye c holi holi jaatan chon bahar v aa jana jad aapan apne bachiyan nu kaihna ke Puttar viyah jithe marzi karwalai but kudi honi chahidi hai munde naal naa karwa li kite lol

Brar Sihha ... Serr la te :hehe:

Quote from: ★ਮੁਸਕਾਨ★ on August 16, 2011, 04:53:44 PM

hanji mere pirwaar wale jayatiwaad wich vishwaash karde aa.. bouat karde aa mere cousin got married with rajpoot kudi and hun o sare os naal bolano hatt ge aa..kyuke family said ke jatta dia kudia karia mar gia si enu rajput hee labhi aa.. koi vi family member os naal gal nai kar sakda.. je kise ne keti te os naal ristha tut sakda hai.. but we still talk with our cousin. :he: . coz sadi family nu nai pata ke we are talking with each other :hehe: .. but jis din pata lag gia pata nai ki hona..vicho vicho assi vi aakh dyida kade kade teno sachi jatta di kudi nai labhi.. :he: so after his marriage assi sare jyatiwaad vich yakeen karde aa coz we had seen our family kidda bharki payi si oddo.. so also i beleive in casteism..

dus .. aukha bebba tera :hehe:

Quote from: KARAM SINGH on August 16, 2011, 10:41:12 PM

ha ha ha ha brar sahb ne kiti latest gall :D:
Chalo hun chalde aa topic valh apne mum dad di gal kra te oh ine strict nai is mamle vich. Sadi rishtedari ch is tra da vakya hoya intercast viah da. Nd jad dad mere nal gal karde kehn lage "chlo puttar aj kal time e eda da e har pase ehi kuj ho riha e. Jo hoya us vich te burayi nai bt jis tarike hoya oh galat c."
So agar mai koi eda da kam karda ta oh mann e jange. Oh te aap mainu keh dinde ne je koi gal bat hoi mainu das dai pehla :hehe:
Hun aundi e gal mere te. Mai caste system ch yakeen nai karda aam zindagi vich. Par mera eh manna k je apni caste ya brabar de nal viah hove ta changa. Kyo agar apa intercaste karde aa ta zahir e k do families de vich ohna de costoms , rehen sehen, soch da fark hoyega te eh fark age ja k prob v kar sakda.
Bt its just a theory of mine. . . Mai ehda pakka follower ni haiga :hehe:
Mere lai te mum dad bro to important kuj ni hai. Mai chahrdi umre e ristrict kar lya c is sab to kyo mai nai c chohnda k ida de kise jhmele karke koi prob create hove. So jo oh kehenge uda e hovega. Bt je kismat kuj ida da kuj kar v deve ta mainu yakin e oh meri gal te pura dhyan denge.

matlab love shove walla teh warka he parr davvo :hehe: ... patendra sariya nu bhenna na banna leye.. ek adde chad deyye de hunde aa
nalle mera bapu edda da hunda.. main hun nu jawaka walla honna se.. sadda bapu teh phone utte we bhut galla kadh da aa :hehe:

Jhanda_Amli · « **Reply #25 on:** August 17, 2011, 10:37:50 AM »

baki badh wich sahi.. janta likhde bhut aa.. :hehe:

ਕਰਮਵੀਰ ਸਿੰਘ · « **Reply #26 on:** August 17, 2011, 11:27:41 AM »

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha " in hatho ne sirf hathyar shode hai lekin chlana nahi bhule" :D:

sukhbeer · « **Reply #27 on:** August 17, 2011, 07:19:09 PM »

naa mai es cheej nu manndah naa sade parents,,

Kudrat Kaur · « **Reply #28 on:** August 17, 2011, 07:20:07 PM »

Quote from: J.A. on August 16, 2011, 04:22:08 PM

- Fer agla sawal eh hai ke muslim ja essiye logg we edda karde aa....Cause i think only sikhism has this disease. :dnk:

baki es sawaal da answer hai ke Sikhism is not at all related to this caste system. Sikhism da koyee lena dena nai hai jattiwaad naal.
This Casteism is way older than Sikhism. and Casteism is very much prevalent in Hindus, Muslims and Christians.. Hindus vich mainly 4 castes ne - Brahmin, Shudar, Kshatriyas, Vaishyas.. ih sab toh pehli divison hai castes di history vich.. jo profession de base teh c.. teh ihi sab toh old hai..
Baki Muslins vich Shiya teh Sunni ,Dalit wala kissa hai....same thing is there in Christians too as Church, State, high and low class Christians..

So Sikhism has nothin to do with this.. this is more of Punjabi or Cultural thing ,as far as i think..

Deleted User · « **Reply #29 on:** August 17, 2011, 07:32:44 PM »

sade lai no matterz, but mere bapu lai bhut jayda, sirf vaih lai par, uda hez frdly n sirf kuri vare matterz karda... je koi mnda howe jeri marji kuri

Jail Bird · « **Reply #30 on:** August 17, 2011, 07:36:20 PM »

mere parents vishwas karde

Deleted User · « **Reply #31 on:** August 17, 2011, 07:53:32 PM »

baki me kisa da ni parya but i totly agree vid killa
par jida k tusi sare jande aa aj kal di nojawan jida k pj te aunde aa,,,, ohna sarea de dimag vich rasict kut kut ke barhi hoi aa
oh duje caste or dharam de bandea nu ta insan hi ni samj de,,, baki hor kuj kehn di lorh tusi sarea ne keh hi dita same stuff likhan da ki fayda lol

ਕਰਮਵੀਰ ਸਿੰਘ · « **Reply #32 on:** August 17, 2011, 10:44:29 PM »

mera eh manna k je apni caste ya brabar de nal viah hove ta changa. Kyo agar apa intercaste karde aa ta zahir e k do families de vich ohna de costoms , rehen sehen, soch da fark hoyega te eh fark age ja k prob v kar sakda.
interesting point ...I’ve actually heard that but you know i disagree because i think being Indian i have understood the fact our rituals and customs change depending on what area we belong to in India...for example.. my sis in law was born and raised in delhi...yet their rituals/customs are from the area her ancestors came from which is amritsar area (i forgot what it’s called) anyhow and i grew up in states but my rituals/customs are what my parents taught us which belong to jalandhar area meaning duaba, although we belong to same caste but we still have differences in the way we do things and say some of the phrases in punjabi jus because our ancestors belong to different areas in Punjab. we just have to learn and determine what is acceptable and what not in order adapt or change ourselves to such things. [/color]
NEED TO BE DISCUSSED MORE

EvIL_DhoCThoR · « **Reply #33 on:** August 17, 2011, 10:51:42 PM »

frankly ghar de ta rakhde rakhde mein app jatiwad ch bahut belive kardi aaa ..

$$ TARN JI $$ · « **Reply #34 on:** August 17, 2011, 11:54:31 PM »

Ki hunda ja reha hai aaj kal di janta nu apne kapdeya toon tusi nahi pehchne jande . . . . .apni soch vi wadi karo

EvIL_DhoCThoR · « **Reply #35 on:** August 18, 2011, 02:19:08 AM »

Quote from: ਦਿਲਰਾਜ ਕੌਰ on August 17, 2011, 09:28:26 AM

mere gharde te bohat ziaada vishvaas karde ne jyattiwad ch :blush: te mae ohna to ve ziaada karde vishwaas :hehe:

same here lol

Ķιℓℓα Ķαuя · « **Reply #36 on:** August 18, 2011, 10:31:07 AM »

Quote from: KARAM SINGH on August 17, 2011, 10:44:29 PM

mera eh manna k je apni caste ya brabar de nal viah hove ta changa. Kyo agar apa intercaste karde aa ta zahir e k do families de vich ohna de costoms , rehen sehen, soch da fark hoyega te eh fark age ja k prob v kar sakda.
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interesting point ...I’ve actually heard that but you know i disagree because i think being Indian i have understood the fact our rituals and customs change depending on what area we belong to in India...for example.. my sis in law was born and raised in delhi...yet their rituals/customs are from the area her ancestors came from which is amritsar area (i forgot what it’s called) anyhow and i grew up in states but my rituals/customs are what my parents taught us which belong to jalandhar area meaning duaba, although we belong to same caste but we still have differences in the way we do things and say some of the phrases in punjabi jus because our ancestors belong to different areas in Punjab. we just have to learn and determine what is acceptable and what not in order adapt or change ourselves to such things. [/color]

NEED TO BE DISCUSSED MORE

Hanji, Main eh nahi keha ki tusi kuj galat keha main bas eh keh rahi ki je eda hunda ta menu eda lagda bhame asi same caste toh hove ta asi same problem (rituals, customs, rehn sehn etc.) face kar sakde a just because we all come from different areas in punjab and/or india itself ...like you said it needs to be discussed more :hehe: i'll wait

Jhanda_Amli · « **Reply #37 on:** August 18, 2011, 10:34:17 AM »

Quote from: PJ SARPANCH on August 16, 2011, 10:59:48 PM

aakho ji eda hi aa mere ghar de vi jyattiwad vich vishwas karde aa mere ghar walle ki saara ilaka hi eho jeha aa aaje ehna nu samaj nhi aayi bakki holli holli farak payyi janda aaa oda ta viah nhi karon denda koi kadd ke pavve lai aao tuhade din baad aape kam aape set ho janda :hehe: fer ta manna hi painda aa mainu nhi lagda aki punjabi deya dil jo eh gal nikal sakdi aa jinna cher aapa budde nhi hunde :D:

aa we gal syani aa :hehe:

Quote from: Kudrat Kaur on August 16, 2011, 11:22:18 PM

Gharde - Yes.. kafi jyada strict ne... even same caste vich v howe tah v same pind de kudi munde naal vyah nai ho sakda..

Me- No.. Mere bache tah chahe kale, gore, peele, neele kise nal v karwayun.. chahe China toh ley ayun .. appa nu koyee problem nai aa .. oh ohna di problem howugi.. :hehe:

Tere gharee kuri hoye.. teh odda pharuna tu cheena labh leya.. Ek sikh kath javoo Duniya teh.. contribute karoo.. :hehe:
- wadia jaman se puran.. jadoo lokk "pharuna" kehde hunde se :hehe:

Quote from: ~MaRjAnA giLl~ on August 17, 2011, 03:18:29 AM

mere mum dad pehlan boht karde seege
ke han kuri jatta di hove..
aap labh la je sanu kahe labhan nu asin labh dinde ah..
nd they dnt hav any prob ke mai love marriage karaava ya arrange..

baki jado da mai keha ke mai ni karauna vyah
oh kehnde ke jehri marji nal kara la bas vyah kara la sanu koi prob ni

hun gall etho tak vadh gi ke oh hun minntan karde kade force karde kade immotional blackmail karde
ke han sukh hun tu vyah kara la
asin v chaunde ah sade ghare khushiya hon
par hun sada dimag pta ni kehre paase laggea ke sada hale chit ni karda vyah nu

bt mukkdi gall ke hun mere ghARDE kehnde sanu koi prob ni kudi jehdi marji hove. bas sikh hove.. gurughar jaave tey ijjat karn wali hove :hehe:

patendra koi umarr hunde aa.. karaa la viah.. nai teh saree umaar app he rotiya vehlniya penn geya ... chulle nu fukka mer marniya pendiya ne saharee bande nu teh :hehe:

B̲l̲i̲n̲g̲ · « **Reply #38 on:** August 18, 2011, 10:39:38 AM »

Quote from: J.A. on August 16, 2011, 04:22:08 PM

Ajj post parda se ek Gurpinder Mand de... "odde wich message se ke casteism nu na karoo."

- Hun ek step agge chalde aa... Ke thude prewarr wich casteism hai? ... ke thude prewarr walle chaunde ne ke tusse app de caste nal he vaih karoo?

- Ja fer thude wich castism hai? Do you want ur girl/boy of same caste?

Chaloo apde prewarr wichoo gal suroo karda aa.... Sachi gal dassa teh mere maa caste wich vishwas rakhde aa.. jadoo wekho phone teh ekko gal - "Putt kuri jehre marji labh la ... parr kuri Jatta de dhee hove... " :hehe: ... baap naal teh enne kadde gal nai hoye kuri shuree baree.. lol .. bapu ji teh bus galla he kadhe hunde ne :hehe:

Te rahi mere gal... Mainu problem nai aa.. jenne der kuri sikh hove... cause i think every sikh has a right towards its religion ke odde jawak we sikhi baree sikhan... Shudh punjabi wich ohnu kehde ne - Hun tharam thori prisht karna aa :

- Fer agla sawal eh hai ke muslim ja essiye logg we edda karde aa....Cause i think only sikhism has this disease. :dnk:

pta ni likheya sajjna tu pr j ehi glla vicharde rhe ta fer agge kdo wdhange es lai appa ehe read ee ni kita poora oh tera graphics wala topic khraa ehde naalo ta

Jhanda_Amli · « **Reply #39 on:** August 18, 2011, 10:45:54 AM »

Quote from: ਦਿਲਰਾਜ ਕੌਰ on August 17, 2011, 09:28:26 AM

mere gharde te bohat ziaada vishvaas karde ne jyattiwad ch :blush: te mae ohna to ve ziaada karde vishwaas :hehe:

So tu jatt bhalde aa? :hehe: ... je kesse hor nal love shove ho geya fer - love kehra jayat wekh ke aunde aa... :pagel: :hehe:

Quote from: ~~!! ਪਿਆਰਾਂ !!~~ on August 17, 2011, 09:33:50 AM

main tey mere gharde jyattiwad nu nahi mande ..... ager halle v lok jyattiwad mager pey ney ta main kehna chonda k 10 gurua ney avtaar dharia ke fida leaa punjabia ney kuch v nahi isda matlab saaf eh Guru granth shib de bani tey koi v nahi chall reha sabh lok dekhava matha taikh rahe ney ... sharda de ghaat eh sabh ch .... !

khash mere gharde we edda de hunde.. hun nu asse gwand wich kalli fasa lenne :pagel: .. kididng

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Quote from: $$TARN JI$$ on August 17, 2011, 09:34:58 AM

TUHADE WARGE LOKAAN KAR K HI SADA SAMAJH TARAKI NAHI KAR REHA ..... RESISUM SHIT .....

tarn sihha nidiya na karne.. sabh de app de soch aa.. Hum nai changee, buraa nai koi :cooll:

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